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Ben Lennon

Vlossy said:
Not sure why there has been so much discussion going on about this kid's fitness level. I thought it has been very commonly known that his fitness levels aren't great. He even admits this in that letter a few weeks back.

People need to chill now. The penny has either dropped or it hasnt. But attacking him day 1 doesnt make much sense and only leads to more crap being flung his way for the whole preseason and into 2017. He is super talented and let's hope he gets his act together and changes his ways. Hard work is what it will take. He has plenty of time to build this fitness going into the 2017 season. This is pretty much his last chance to make an impression and continue his career in the AFL.

Disagree he's super talented Vossy.

Just being a decent kick doesn't make you that.
 
Leysy Days said:
Disagree he's super talented Vossy.

Just being a decent kick doesn't make you that.

Pretty sticky hands as well mate, remember that game in the wet I think in season 2015...
 
Yep, he one grabs it.

He also can't find the ball, doesn't get elevation, is very poor athletically, has a very low top end speed and a slow first step. ;D
 
Tigertough1974 said:
Pretty sticky hands as well mate, remember that game in the wet I think in season 2015...

yeah. He loves the wet. I backed him for most goals that game and he kicked about 1.5. Still, he showed a lot.

Im not saying hes the next Nathan Brown, but the stuff being conjured up from the training video is like some kind of tarot card reading.

I watched it and thought he looked kind of committed and sharp. :don't know
 
That’s the way it rolls on forums.

There are only two states that a footballer on our list can be in at any point in time. There are those who can do no wrong and there are those who can do no right. The first is a very select group.

They all start out being able to do no wrong. It begins before they are even drafted. Let’s face it, before a player is drafted he has not actually had the opportunity to do anything wrong so it is no more than a default state. Every future draft hopeful is in this default state at present. “I hope we draft player X, he is a beauty.”

It doesn’t last long though. At least half of the players we draft can do no right immediately. As in, less than 30 seconds after they are drafted they can do no right. “Why did we choose Player X? We could have had Player Y.” Reece Conca, for example, could do no right 0.92 secs after he was drafted, which, not coincidentally, is the average reaction time of the average football fan who has had a couple of drinks. Yes, some took as long as five seconds but they were plastered at the time.

Most of the others take a bit longer to be considered able to do no right. It happens when a player drafted later than them plays a senior game for another team. “Why did we choose Tambling when we could have had Buddy?” The only way to avoid this early relapse is to be selected for round 1 and stay in the team forever, more or less, say like Dusty has. Even then it is a tough gig. Being able to do no wrong can only be maintained in years when they are All-Australian and/or win the Brownlow Medal. In those years it is easy. In all other years it is impossible. Just ask Deledio about breaking a tag or about injuring his calf. Or Brandon Ellis when he made the All-Australian squad of 40.

Surprisingly enough, It is possible to go back into the state of doing no wrong for a brief period. This usually occurs when they get a kick in the VFL and are not selected in the seniors for the next game. Or the game after. Or the one after that. This is the McBean Factor. These players will continue to do no wrong until they are actually selected. The longer they stay in the VFL the more their legend will grow. It is actually better if they are never selected as they will eventually turn into Demi-Gods.

Then there is the Alex Rance Effect. He was a classic. First he could do no wrong. Then he was drafted. Then his right leg turned into a second left leg, then he had no clue, then he became hopeless overhead, then he made poor decisions. And on it went. It was only when he became the pre-eminent defender in the AFL that he could do no wrong again. Remember when Cotchin could do no wrong? Remember when Shank Edwards was “a beauty?”

Let’s not forget the Bachar Houli-Joel Bowden Conundrum. It is not possible to be able to do no wrong if you have pulled out of a contest, no matter what else you are able to achieve in your career.

Currently, Oleg Markov can do no wrong. It helps that he was not picked too early.

Which leads me to Ben Lennon, my God, he has redefined the art of being able to do no right. He is the poster boy for the revolution. Just pass the bottle of Vodka! I need another drink.
 
TOT70 said:
That’s the way it rolls on forums.

Which leads me to Ben Lennon, my God, he has redefined the art of being able to do no right. He is the poster boy for the revolution. Just pass the bottle of Vodka! I need another drink.

yeah with TV gone, theres a quite a Vacuum.

I must admit though, the smorgasboard of whipping boys we have does concern me.

I can count at 8-10 to choose from.
 
Leysy Days said:
Disagree he's super talented Vossy.

Just being a decent kick doesn't make you that.


It was only 1 year ago that people were up in arm's that he was dropped for a final. Surely people haven't forgotten already...

He is more than a good kick. He is super silky and can clunk a mark on the lead. His decision making is also some of the best we have on our list. I am as critical as the next guy about this kid but think it is time for people to lay off him and let his actions do the talking.

I get it that this is a forum and discussion has to be had. But very important to have balanced discussion. If it clicks with Lennon I think he will go on and have a very solid career. Whether that is at RFC or another club time will tell. But if he shows a bit in 2017 then we might just be able to get something decent in a trade for him if he still wants out. Everyone should be cheering for him to click in 2017!
 
TOT70 said:
That’s the way it rolls on forums.

There are only two states that a footballer on our list can be in at any point in time. There are those who can do no wrong and there are those who can do no right. The first is a very select group.

Great post.
 
There are also those who paint a picture and put the bar up themselves. Ban has talked the talk.
 
turk-d-tiger said:
If ever a picture said a million words , This is it

Markov - Determination to break through the barrier and beat anybody infront of him after just 1 preseason
Lemon - Ohh F*** Do i have to really run, This hurts too much and i should be sitting in the foward pocket why run - After 2 pre seasons

Come on, apparently he would have won us the Elimination Final against North had he played according to the astute types on here.
 
rosy3 said:
There are also those who paint a picture and put the bar up themselves. Ban has talked the talk.

are you accusing him of non-vibrancy Rosy?

The champion of the whipping boy sinks the boots in?

hard times indeed.
 
I'm backing Benny in. Big year ahead. Make or break season for him, and I'm backing him to come good.
 
easy said:
are you accusing him of non-vibrancy Rosy?

The champion of the whipping boy sinks the boots in?

hard times indeed.

Not sticking the boots in at all. Looking forward to Ben showing his vibrancy.
 
blx said:
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Markov and Lennon running laps yesterday >:D
there are two ways of looking at that photo.

One is the glass half empty, one doing it easily, an athlete. The other is obviously not up to it.
The other is a guy struggling but trying his guts out, in pain but putting in.

Depends on where you see Lennon how you see the photo
 
Ghost of 29 said:
I am no fan of Ben, but being positive on his situation, he looks as fit as he ever has, seemed to be moving quite well. I have written previously that Ben is technically a terrible runner so no amount of fitness work will change that, it would require a few months of work with a proper sprint coach who could remodel his style, which is probably not possible. FingeRs crossed he can get through preseason in good health and hopefully his footy ability will take him to where we need him to be.

Pretty sure Troy Simmons remodeled his running style over 1 off season after employing a sprint coach