i know i said i would stay away from thisbut i have to just say this.and nothing specificly aimed at cousins its aimed at all drug addicts. drug addicts lie they will gloss over their problem its a form of denial. idont know about anyone else but drugs like coke ice you just cant turn a switch and stop not for months at a time. common sense says cousins used thru the season i wont say more except to say has anyone seen the effect of coke and ice on people they would walk thru brick walls and truly believe they could do it. it would be folly and naieve to dismiss this as oh ben said he never took drugs between april and september he wouldt be an addict then now would he. i will say one last thing ben never had problems with wce footy dept until he started missing training sessions and turning up washed out. i firmly believe cousins managed his cocaine habit well it was not until he got on the ice that he lost his ability to control his habit. anyway enough i wont comment again heres hoping he can turn it around and heres also hoping he plays some good footy for us.benny_furs said:
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Ben Cousins a Tiger (Merged)
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Tigers of Old said:
Well this just about has to be the dumbest comment from a Journalist yet. Whats he gonna do, say nah don't worry about the AFL Benny, just do what you like mate, we'll back you.
Just when you thought they couldn't get any dumber. Talk about dumb and dumber. This journo must win both awards, surely.
I must admit......when it first blew up that he was on drugs.....my first thought was......."so that's how he was able to run & run & run"......... Probably unjustified but that was what popped into my head.
My brother is a copper.......a few years ago he was in car chasing guy up the Hume..they know him - bit of a bad-se & a known Ice user.... the bloke pulls over, hops a fence & hightails it into the dark........ A few minutes later they get a call from a farmhouse 2 miles away that there is this agitated bloke outside their house. Can't remember if they caught him or not - but the interesting thing is......they worked out he was the World record holder for the mile......... I believe (& am no expert) that when on the stuff, a person can also tolerate much more physically than when without & that includes a raising of the pain threshold.
Ben never swabbed positive for anything but there was a suggestion that he seemed to know when testing was on the cards & was unavailable to be tested while in the west.
He has cost us nothing in terms of draft picks & money. Hell, he may pay his salary by increased memberships alone. What some of our boys can learn by playing alongside a player of his calibre cannot be underestimated & we all know he can seriously play. The upside is worth the risk. If it doesn't work. Stiff. We have given him the opportunity & I hope like hell that for everyone's sake - he can manage his problem & get his life back in order & we can gain an outstanding player albeit not long term.
My brother is a copper.......a few years ago he was in car chasing guy up the Hume..they know him - bit of a bad-se & a known Ice user.... the bloke pulls over, hops a fence & hightails it into the dark........ A few minutes later they get a call from a farmhouse 2 miles away that there is this agitated bloke outside their house. Can't remember if they caught him or not - but the interesting thing is......they worked out he was the World record holder for the mile......... I believe (& am no expert) that when on the stuff, a person can also tolerate much more physically than when without & that includes a raising of the pain threshold.
Ben never swabbed positive for anything but there was a suggestion that he seemed to know when testing was on the cards & was unavailable to be tested while in the west.
He has cost us nothing in terms of draft picks & money. Hell, he may pay his salary by increased memberships alone. What some of our boys can learn by playing alongside a player of his calibre cannot be underestimated & we all know he can seriously play. The upside is worth the risk. If it doesn't work. Stiff. We have given him the opportunity & I hope like hell that for everyone's sake - he can manage his problem & get his life back in order & we can gain an outstanding player albeit not long term.
I'll say one thing, I'm so over all the ben Cousins and drugs talk. It's been done to death!
I'm hoping now it's 2009 we can get on with 2009 and leave the past behind unless it rears it's head.
The people in power and Ben know what has to be done, it's all out of our control, let's just enjoy the ride now.
GO TIGES! :emblem
I'm hoping now it's 2009 we can get on with 2009 and leave the past behind unless it rears it's head.
The people in power and Ben know what has to be done, it's all out of our control, let's just enjoy the ride now.
GO TIGES! :emblem
Dyer Disciple said:
Agree totally! In 2008 was staunchly against the recruitment of Ben.
It's now 2009 - he'll be in full training soon. I remain more concerned on about footy related injuries than drug induced ones - as DD said, that (any drugs) will take it's own course now.
If Ben plays Round 1, the Judd vs Cousins game will be extraordinary as a build up, as a start of things to come.
jimbob said:
We haven't just given Ben Cousins an opportunity, we've given our whole young playing list an opportunity.
Glad people are sick of hearing about the drugs, 2009 should see that kind of talk disappear.
Ha! Heard today that in the Collingwood AGM, Eddie said one of the things that had put them off Cousins was that the Herald Sun told them that if he goes to Collingwood they would be assigning 2 full time reporters to him.
So does he just get one now because he went to Richmond and not Collingwood? :
So does he just get one now because he went to Richmond and not Collingwood? :
A quick snippet on the Nine news bulletin tonight had the Tigers back training, showed the guys running the Tan. It was basically saying the Cuz did not do the Tan & he is on a modified training program - Wallace spoke briefly saying that we have said he needs to get himself right over the next 3 months to make the Rd1 side, nothing really that was new news. No mention of any other players.
was great to see him at the finish line on the news smiling, content and with a footy looking happy with his lot
Disco Stu said:
Hahaha lets be honest he is a dead set certainty to make that side. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
P.S - He looks great! 8)
tha8ball said:
No doubt - but obviously he is behind the other guys in full on training. Better to build his fitness rather than throw him in and blow his hammies. By the way it doesnt matter what you look like, you need to build from within rather than look great from the outside. He looked great at WC but obviously wasnt right on the inside. Lets get him right from there - both on the physical and mental side of things. Dont get ahead of ourselves, he is just part of his way through a drug recovery.
I'd prefer to throw in a 24% fit ben cousins than a 100% fit Kane Johnson.
And I wasn't a huge fan of bringing him to Punt Road. Not against, just not entirely for.
And I wasn't a huge fan of bringing him to Punt Road. Not against, just not entirely for.
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: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :It's probably got more to do with taking the pressure off Cousins as it has being on a "modified training program".
Think about what the media would be reporting if Cousins ran the tan... too much pressure and unless he comes 1st (Daniel Jackson was about 20 seconds faster than Judd) it's not worth it.
We're just trying to keep the positive vibes going.
Think about what the media would be reporting if Cousins ran the tan... too much pressure and unless he comes 1st (Daniel Jackson was about 20 seconds faster than Judd) it's not worth it.
We're just trying to keep the positive vibes going.
benny_furs said:
Definitely has something to do with it. The coaching/medical staff have to make sure that Ben comes back slowly though. Could you imagine him out for the season due to straining hammies in pre-season? $120k down the toilet, not to mention trying to keep Ben positive enough to remain clean while he's out. I really hope he can be right to play and have some kind of impact at some point in the first 1/2 of the season. 1st round might be a stretch...
