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Ben Cousins a Tiger (Merged)
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Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
The obvious counter to Claw's argument is the benefit in adding one of (possibly R Harvey was better) the best "gut busting" runners the game has ever seen to the list. A bloke who could teach Lids, Cotch, Foley etc etc how and what is required to be the best. A bloke who would be desperate, not just to play again, but desperate to show the world he is one of the best. A bloke desperate to have some success and who has proven he can drag others up a level. If the pay-off was developing a midfield like the Eagles once had, or the 3-peat Lions had I don't count that as minimal.
You may win more often backing short prices but when you back a winning long shot the pay-off is worthwhile.
Tygrys said:
The obvious counter to Claw's argument is the benefit in adding one of (possibly R Harvey was better) the best "gut busting" runners the game has ever seen to the list. A bloke who could teach Lids, Cotch, Foley etc etc how and what is required to be the best. A bloke who would be desperate, not just to play again, but desperate to show the world he is one of the best. A bloke desperate to have some success and who has proven he can drag others up a level. If the pay-off was developing a midfield like the Eagles once had, or the 3-peat Lions had I don't count that as minimal.
You may win more often backing short prices but when you back a winning long shot the pay-off is worthwhile.
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
Cheers Jayfox. And for what its worth I also think it is an appropriate action taken by the club regardless of Cousins.
Still as negotiations go, 15 refusals and one bite makse for a good negotiation as the employer.
jayfox said:
Cheers Jayfox. And for what its worth I also think it is an appropriate action taken by the club regardless of Cousins.
Still as negotiations go, 15 refusals and one bite makse for a good negotiation as the employer.
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
People make it sound like we'd be drafting Ben out of the goodness of our hearts, purely for his personal benefit. If we drafted Ben it would be for what we hope he'd do for our team, same as we should do for every draft pick. If it doesn't work out it's a spot wasted that an up an coming young kid could have used. A lot of serious thought has to be weighed up.
People make it sound like we'd be drafting Ben out of the goodness of our hearts, purely for his personal benefit. If we drafted Ben it would be for what we hope he'd do for our team, same as we should do for every draft pick. If it doesn't work out it's a spot wasted that an up an coming young kid could have used. A lot of serious thought has to be weighed up.
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
In other news TOM BOSLEY is darn near the 1000 post mark, I suppose Aunty Rosey should not have taken a risk on him all those years ago either? Is that what you anti-Cousins posters are saying?
Wake up guys Cousins and Tom Bosley are on the way. Cousins to the RFC, TB to the magical 1000 mark....
Feel free to start a new tribute thread to TOM BOSLEY or a combine it with a new WELCOME to the RFC BEN thread
Either way is cool
Peace
In other news TOM BOSLEY is darn near the 1000 post mark, I suppose Aunty Rosey should not have taken a risk on him all those years ago either? Is that what you anti-Cousins posters are saying?
Wake up guys Cousins and Tom Bosley are on the way. Cousins to the RFC, TB to the magical 1000 mark....
Feel free to start a new tribute thread to TOM BOSLEY or a combine it with a new WELCOME to the RFC BEN thread
Either way is cool
Peace
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
Wow, have a look at the thread on Big Footy.
On the first page, 100% of the population has supported Richmond thinking we made a "great decision" and are happy to see us pick him up.
We've definitely got public support on the issue (which further lowers the risk of a PR backlash should Ben relapse).
Wow, have a look at the thread on Big Footy.
On the first page, 100% of the population has supported Richmond thinking we made a "great decision" and are happy to see us pick him up.
We've definitely got public support on the issue (which further lowers the risk of a PR backlash should Ben relapse).
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
No doubt Rosy. But I don't think any of the young kids are throwing themselves forward as genuine senior list players. All those being considered have some deficiencies whether they be skill, speed, fitness, size etc. Sure, rookie list some of these and have them working on those deficiencies but, right at the moment, Cousins v Klemke is a no brainer IMO.
rosy23 said:
No doubt Rosy. But I don't think any of the young kids are throwing themselves forward as genuine senior list players. All those being considered have some deficiencies whether they be skill, speed, fitness, size etc. Sure, rookie list some of these and have them working on those deficiencies but, right at the moment, Cousins v Klemke is a no brainer IMO.
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
Given our history of drafting youngsters there's a good chance we'd waste the spot anyway. Either way it's a punt.
rosy23 said:
Given our history of drafting youngsters there's a good chance we'd waste the spot anyway. Either way it's a punt.
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
If it's just about teaching Lids, Cotch and Foley etc, let's employ him as a specialist midfield coach and keep our youth policy (such as it is) uncompromised. Everyone (including I would assume the redoubtable Claw) would be happy. And even if he imploded the bad PR (assuming we cared) would definitely be containable having only given him a job (certainly not in the same league as if he was a player).
RFC not KFC said:
If it's just about teaching Lids, Cotch and Foley etc, let's employ him as a specialist midfield coach and keep our youth policy (such as it is) uncompromised. Everyone (including I would assume the redoubtable Claw) would be happy. And even if he imploded the bad PR (assuming we cared) would definitely be containable having only given him a job (certainly not in the same league as if he was a player).
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
Yeah, I think i mentioned it earlier in this thread. It does some parallels with Gourdis nominating for the PSD yesterday after spending all pre season at Richmond and not really being linked with anyone else for PSD. Rumours suggest that the WA teams may be interested and they have rookie picks before us so if we want an U18 as well as Gourdis we would need to take Gourdis in the PSD (for a second time).
Who knows what is going on. If it was for Gourdis, you would think that the club would incur no harm in saying this publicly?
Harry said:
Yeah, I think i mentioned it earlier in this thread. It does some parallels with Gourdis nominating for the PSD yesterday after spending all pre season at Richmond and not really being linked with anyone else for PSD. Rumours suggest that the WA teams may be interested and they have rookie picks before us so if we want an U18 as well as Gourdis we would need to take Gourdis in the PSD (for a second time).
Who knows what is going on. If it was for Gourdis, you would think that the club would incur no harm in saying this publicly?
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
We wont get this Polak rookie thing through anyway. I wouldn't get to excited!
We wont get this Polak rookie thing through anyway. I wouldn't get to excited!
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
Youth policy? Why is Sugar still on the list? Why did we only draft 2 blokes from the superdraft of U18s this year? Youth policy is the nost over-used term in football. It's a convenient way of saying we don't think we can give it a nudge this year.
Tygrys said:
Youth policy? Why is Sugar still on the list? Why did we only draft 2 blokes from the superdraft of U18s this year? Youth policy is the nost over-used term in football. It's a convenient way of saying we don't think we can give it a nudge this year.
Re: Ben Cousins a tiger?
You need serious help. Get over yourself.
rosy23 said:Are you stalking me tonight?
You need serious help. Get over yourself.
