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Bachar Houli - بشار حولي,

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

*smile* the AFL. Even when we manouver a win like Tuesday we end up behind.

Like JB said, never thought everyone had it in for RFC. You start to wonder after the past month or so.

The positive though. Because of the racism and bigotry in this country it is likely a better result for Bachar long term.

He was very very likely to cop a lot of hatred and booing if the 2 weeks stood tonight.

Now that 4 has been handed down the media tornado will subside and he should be able to return unimpeded.

Sad as it is, that is the truth.
 
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T-Shirt Tommy said:
Too clever? Why? Because we followed the rules as written by the AFL?

Not saying we broke any rules. To me using the prime ministers comments out of context and without permission wasn't the best decision.
 
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frickenel said:
I can't agree with this on the grounds that when we're talking about "behind play" we're usually talking about a player being sniped from behind completely outside of play.

In Houli's case, he's trying to get into play, and being held from doing so, thus affecting "play". In fact, the reality is that if his opponent wasn't at full stretch trying to hold on, his head wouldn't have been as low as it was and he wouldn't have been knocked out.

I again go back to the umpire who witnessed the incident and said "it didn't look intentional" and ask "if you're watching what's going on, how could you not blow the whistle in which case none of us are even having this conversation. The 85kg of useless dead weight that Houli is expected to cart around a footy field and still get a kick, doesn't get knocked out, and Richmond still has Houli in it's team against Port, StKilda, GCS and GWS.

Interesting that the AFL can rule that Hall's hit on McGuire was "in play" when play was over 50m away, thus allowing him to line up in a GF, but in Houli's case, being held from joining play, isn't in play. Interesting that this is so abhorrent to them, that they do something that hasn't been done in 112 years, but in the case of a Swans player 50m off the ball it's "Nothing to see here, move on please"! Same team that gets to play us off a bye, Essendon off a bye and then Melbourne off 3 consecutive 6 days breaks, the last of which is off a trip to WA.

I'm guessing Essendon's record off the bye is about as good as ours.

While I'm ranting...........

How many jumper punches have been thrown in the last 12 months? How many media circuses is there.... just Cotchin's!

Media urges AFL to review Rance for diving when he's hit in the chest neck area quite forcibly by a player who's around 110kg in weight, yet all I hear from the media in Clayton Oliver's case is how even the slightest contact to the chin can shock you enough to fall over!!!!

And now the media circus over Houli, but nothing on Jordan Lewis putting more fractures in a jaw than the Libs have debating gay marriage, and that was an intentional act, aimed to do as much damage as he could get away with.
Just look at the decision last week when it apparently can't be proved as intentional when Joel Selwood drives someone's face into the ground by dropping his elbow and full body weight onto the back of Mitchell's neck! You want the potential of serious injury. then look at that for an example! Watch that incident and tell me that wasn't intended to hurt a player as much as possible, with time to consider one's actions before performing the act.

Where was the media circus last week?

The AFL has to decide whether it's running a genuine competition or some sort of theatre production or pantomime

Quality rant *smile*.
Bloody disgraceful that a recidivist like Lewis can get merely three weeks for a deliberate behind the play smack in the face that broke Cripps jaw, nil remorse from Lewis. Yet a career clean skin like Bachar has to front the tribunal for a poorly executed swinging arm while trying to break free of a scragger, because his offence is deemed to malicious for the MRP flogs to adjudicate.
Bachar, who was apologetic after the incident, immediately after the game and at all times since, with the help of his legals manages a minor win at tribunal by proving his exemplary character resulting in a modest two week suspension, yet this throws the media and the AFL breeze sniffers into a major hissy fit, resulting in a loaded appeal n doubling of penalty to a four week suspension.

Bachar may be a Muslim but he just got crucified big time by Polo n his breeze sniffing corporate suits. Bachar's apparently going to wear the outcome, it's his career n livelihood after all, but. If I'd been railroaded that hard by a mob that had just spent ten years kissing my arse n riding on my multi cultural inclusive coat tails, the first thing I'd be doing would be inviting them to go forth n multiply without any further help from me. I'd publicly nail the bastards for the hypocrites they are n go find better things to do with my time.

So many pathetic, incompetent manufactured results ever since the points allocation and MRP were invented that the only competent thing to do, would be to completely disband the imbeciles on the MRP. Throw the *smile* blind points n bonus guilty plea discounts in the bin. Re-instate a proper tribunal system, then sack Polo n his breeze sniffing corporate suits for being nothing more than pathetic breeze sniffers. No morals nor character to any of them.

Nothing valid will ever happen though in the world of corporate AFL, it's rule of the week today n back to incompetence n *smile* tomorrow.
 
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

Ha Ha.....have already posted that the AFL tribunal system has been corrupt for 50 years.
Place is run by rigid old men.
What on earth did anyone expect.
Good luck in life from here, this us how the world works, unless you have the right contacts.
RFC is weak and has no standing with the AFL.
That is why we are repeatedly badly treated compared with Cats etc.
That's how it will stay until we are a power house again.
Time to move on, but at least a Houli will not be tagged so easily in future.
Good precedent set by him.
 
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rosy3 said:
Not saying we broke any rules. To me using the prime ministers comments out of context and without permission wasn't the best decision.

I've been reading your posts for many years now. For some reason I get that feeling that the opinions you apparently espouse are not your own. Just an observation ...
 
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Parrott sucking his lips with excitement speaking to Staker and Hall sitting together. What a prick. They used Houli's case to gain some ratings.
 
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tigersnake said:
In advance of any *smile* racist booing, we should start a 'grow a beard for Bachar' initiative. Stop shaving now, everyone turns up to his return game with a beard to show solidarity. Could sell fake beards as well, could be a moneyspinner! 8-

Then we would be accused of cultural appropriation ....
 
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Leysy Days said:
*smile* the AFL. Even when we manouver a win like Tuesday we end up behind.

Like JB said, never thought everyone had it in for RFC. You start to wonder after the past month or so.

The positive though. Because of the racism and bigotry in this country it is likely a better result for Bachar long term.

He was very very likely to cop a lot of hatred and booing if the 2 weeks stood tonight.

Now that 4 has been handed down the media tornado will subside and he should be able to return unimpeded.

Sad as it is, that is the truth.

Good post, agree on all counts, except the 'never thought they had it in for us part'.
 
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PS.... Happy in the end really.
No chance Houli will get booed now and finally RFC players have shown they will no longer take crap.
It's a start of a change in my view.
We will be stronger for it.
Remember the 70's. We were feared.
About time.
 
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TigerForce said:
Parrott sucking his lips with excitement speaking to Staker and Hall sitting together. What a prick. They used Houli's case to gain some ratings.

Say something coherent and I'll respond. You two sitting in the same living room are ya?
 
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Leysy Days said:
*smile* the AFL. Even when we manouver a win like Tuesday we end up behind.

Like JB said, never thought everyone had it in for RFC. You start to wonder after the past month or so.

The positive though. Because of the racism and bigotry in this country it is likely a better result for Bachar long term.

He was very very likely to cop a lot of hatred and booing if the 2 weeks stood tonight.

Now that 4 has been handed down the media tornado will subside and he should be able to return unimpeded.

Sad as it is, that is the truth.

I have the opposite view - reckon the AFL by its announcement and action has made this into a circus and bought greater attention to Houli in a negative (I haven't decided whether it's in a racist) fashion.

Why choose this to be the first case to appeal in 112 years? The end result is only another 2 weeks ffs. Where does the AFL draw the line.

I just hope the club use this to take out there frustration on the next 4 teams we play and let them know what we think
 
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Parrott said:
Say something coherent and I'll respond. You two sitting in the same living room are ya?

Sorry mate, I meant Damien Barrett on The Footy Show. We call him Parrott (the bird) on here.
 
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TigerForce said:
Sorry mate, I meant Damien Barrett on The Footy Show. We call him Parrott (the bird) on here.

All good Tiger Force ... blood boiling at the moment ...
 
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pete and tys said:
PS.... Happy in the end really.
No chance Houli will get booed now and finally RFC players have shown they will no longer take crap.
It's a start of a change in my view.
We will be stronger for it.
Remember the 70's. We were feared.
About time.


With the hysteria these last few days, I am absolutely confident he will be on the receiving end of vitriol from the outer
and opposition players. You have too much faith in humanity.
 
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Ha, no human race in 2017 too stupid. Will have forgotten something from 4 weeks ago that is not on Facebook that day.
 
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Not much use crying over spilt milk as Houli's suspension has now opened the door for Oleg to strut his stuff down back.
 
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TigerMasochist said:
Quality rant *smile*.
Bloody disgraceful that a recidivist like Lewis can get merely three weeks for a deliberate behind the play smack in the face that broke Cripps jaw, nil remorse from Lewis. Yet a career clean skin like Bachar has to front the tribunal for a poorly executed swinging arm while trying to break free of a scragger, because his offence is deemed to malicious for the MRP flogs to adjudicate.
Bachar, who was apologetic after the incident, immediately after the game and at all times since, with the help of his legals manages a minor win at tribunal by proving his exemplary character resulting in a modest two week suspension, yet this throws the media and the AFL breeze sniffers into a major hissy fit, resulting in a loaded appeal n doubling of penalty to a four week suspension.

Bachar may be a Muslim but he just got crucified big time by Polo n his breeze sniffing corporate suits. Bachar's apparently going to wear the outcome, it's his career n livelihood after all, but. If I'd been railroaded that hard by a mob that had just spent ten years kissing my arse n riding on my multi cultural inclusive coat tails, the first thing I'd be doing would be inviting them to go forth n multiply without any further help from me. I'd publicly nail the bastards for the hypocrites they are n go find better things to do with my time.

So many pathetic, incompetent manufactured results ever since the points allocation and MRP were invented that the only competent thing to do, would be to completely disband the imbeciles on the MRP. Throw the *smile* blind points n bonus guilty plea discounts in the bin. Re-instate a proper tribunal system, then sack Polo n his breeze sniffing corporate suits for being nothing more than pathetic breeze sniffers. No morals nor character to any of them.

Nothing valid will ever happen though in the world of corporate AFL, it's rule of the week today n back to incompetence n *smile* tomorrow.

Yep agree like both yours and smiles rant - keep it up
 
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Well the one thing this week has taught me is, most Tigers supporters are as delusional as Essendon supporters
 
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year of the tiger said:
Yep agree like both yours and smiles rant - keep it up
Ooops, shortened frickenel to *smile* n it came up *smile* bloody computers.