Bachar Houli - بشار حولي,

[TT33]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

can someone clear this point. A person good record, in effect because of what the AFL did today, no longer count? That would mean a bad record no longer count too? I assume you cant have it both ways.

Just depends on which way the wind blows.

 

[AngryAnt]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

It's the vibe.

 

[Coughlan24]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

Wonder if Blobbo took Hird's good record into account, he was the no.1 leaker of propaganda against the AFL during that case.

 

[Al Bundy]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

Will that force them to re-write the MRP handbook on prescribed penalties?

No idea, its extrodinary

I would like to know if in the end maybe it was 4+ weeks and they gave a discount back to 4 for his perfect on-field record

 

[TigerForce]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

geez, watching 360, makes me want to chuck. These bloke are dumb as fenceposts, or just AFL yes men.

Aren't they enjoying themselves. Have a look at Blobbo....happier than ever.

 

[Parrott]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

Could all members on this blog please email the RFC? This is what I sent them:

Guys,

This decision by the AFL appeals tribunal to overturn their original decision and give 4 weeks to Bachar Houli is a travesty of justice.

The AFL needs to be held accountable for its decisions and this is clearly one that is motivated by media / pubic option again.

The club needs to give serious consideration to appealing this decision in the Supreme Court. The reason they (the AFL) have been so willing to clearly operate an an unfair and biased manner is because they rely on clubs towing the corporate line. It’s time they found out that they need to be accountable to the clubs as well.

This is unjust in the clearest and extremist of terms.

We need to give it back to them, and if we don’t we are accepting their mediocrity for ourselves.

Over many years of injustice in its many forms I have never felt as outraged as I do now. The AFL is a corrupt organisation and if it weren’t for Richmond I’d be gone. Something needs to be done about them.

Regards,

Stewart Parrott

 

[Al Bundy]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

Wonder if Blobbo took Hird's good record into account, he was the no.1 leaker of propaganda against the AFL during that case.

paid propaganda until "the Weapon" subpoena that lot of them incl Blobbo to expose the rort. Hmm that got him paid out quickly

 

[B1 and B2]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

I can't agree with this on the grounds that when we're talking about "behind play" we're usually talking about a player being sniped from behind completely outside of play.

In Houli's case, he's trying to get into play, and being held from doing so, thus affecting "play". In fact, the reality is that if his opponent wasn't at full stretch trying to hold on, his head wouldn't have been as low as it was and he wouldn't have been knocked out.

I again go back to the umpire who witnessed the incident and said "it didn't look intentional" and ask "if you're watching what's going on, how could you not blow the whistle in which case none of us are even having this conversation. The 85kg of useless dead weight that Houli is expected to cart around a footy field and still get a kick, doesn't get knocked out, and Richmond still has Houli in it's team against Port, StKilda, GCS and GWS.

Interesting that the AFL can rule that Hall's hit on McGuire was "in play" when play was over 50m away, thus allowing him to line up in a GF, but in Houli's case, being held from joining play, isn't in play. Interesting that this is so abhorrent to them, that they do something that hasn't been done in 112 years, but in the case of a Swans player 50m off the ball it's "Nothing to see here, move on please"! Same team that gets to play us off a bye, Essendon off a bye and then Melbourne off 3 consecutive 6 days breaks, the last of which is off a trip to WA.

I'm guessing Essendon's record off the bye is about as good as ours.

While I'm ranting...........

How many jumper punches have been thrown in the last 12 months? How many media circuses is there.... just Cotchin's!

Media urges AFL to review Rance for diving when he's hit in the chest neck area quite forcibly by a player who's around 110kg in weight, yet all I hear from the media in Clayton Oliver's case is how even the slightest contact to the chin can shock you enough to fall over!!!!

And now the media circus over Houli, but nothing on Jordan Lewis putting more fractures in a jaw than the Libs have debating gay marriage, and that was an intentional act, aimed to do as much damage as he could get away with.
Just look at the decision last week when it apparently can't be proved as intentional when Joel Selwood drives someone's face into the ground by dropping his elbow and full body weight onto the back of Mitchell's neck! You want the potential of serious injury. then look at that for an example! Watch that incident and tell me that wasn't intended to hurt a player as much as possible, with time to consider one's actions before performing the act.

Where was the media circus last week?

The AFL has to decide whether it's running a genuine competition or some sort of theatre production or pantomime

forget the AFL circus senario!
I will say it again! you cannot strike a player behind play and knock him out just because you are being held!
Umpires are there to pick up those behind play holding and yes they miss some!

People carry on like AFL are in the wrong! Tribunal got it clearly wrong!
4 weeks is minimum!

B2

 

[tommystigers]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

And here was I thinking that I could not possibly loathe the AFL any more than I do.

Level up!

Crooked, corrupt, shonky, bent, deceitful, amoral, dubious, dishonourable. And on and on. And on. And. On.

#AFaiL

 

[Coughlan24]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

I can accept the 4 weeks it's the right penalty but get it right the first time.

 

[TT33]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

So B2 do you believe they got the Jordan Lewis one right. If so why didn't he get 6-8 weeks. Manifestly inadequate penalty imo. Where was the outrage re his penalty.

 

[yandb]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

Could all members on this blog please email the RFC? This is what I sent them:

Guys,

This decision by the AFL appeals tribunal to overturn their original decision and give 4 weeks to Bachar Houli is a travesty of justice.

The AFL needs to be held accountable for its decisions and this is clearly one that is motivated by media / pubic option again.

The club needs to give serious consideration to appealing this decision in the Supreme Court. The reason they (the AFL) have been so willing to clearly operate an an unfair and biased manner is because they rely on clubs towing the corporate line. It’s time they found out that they need to be accountable to the clubs as well.

This is unjust in the clearest and extremist of terms.

We need to give it back to them, and if we don’t we are accepting their mediocrity for ourselves.

Over many years of injustice in its many forms I have never felt as outraged as I do now. The AFL is a corrupt organisation and if it weren’t for Richmond I’d be gone. Something needs to be done about them.

Regards,

Stewart Parrott

4 Week is the correct decision the mistake was the tribunal listening to the character references and taking them into account.

 

[artball]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

very very weird this story and the process is so obviously bent yr left scratching yr head going.... huh??

 

[mrposhman]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

So B2 do you believe they got the Jordan Lewis one right. If so why didn't he get 6-8 weeks. Manifestly inadequate penalty imo. Where was the outrage re his penalty.

No outrage. Same match Hogan clocks Sam Rowe, a cowards punch if you've ever seen one. 2 weeks no outrage. Rance last year gave Watts a bit of a tap (and rightly got 2 weeks), Jack Viney is the first person to him and clocks him right in the jaw, no worries. Melbourne are the biggest protected species in the comp, even more than GWS. The AFL are desperate for them to win a premiership and will always do whatever they can to achieve that.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

4 Week is the correct decision the mistake was the tribunal listening to the character references and taking them into account.

That is categorically wrong. The Tribunal has "absolute discretion" to take "exceptional and compelling circumstances" into account when handing down a penalty of their choosing. In the AFL's own words.

Houli's been made a stooge. I'd struggle to continue in an ambassadorial role in his position.

Bring on Dirty Bachar.

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[Rosy]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

Will that force them to re-write the MRP handbook on prescribed penalties?

I reckon it's more likely they'll re-write the character reference rules. I suspect we got a bit too clever and the panel reacted. I expected 4 weeks all along due to the seriousness of the injury.

 

[Parrott]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

4 Week is the correct decision the mistake was the tribunal listening to the character references and taking them into account.

Sorry I missed the part in the appeal decision where they indicated the tribunal had erred. Irrespective of what the original decision was this is the decision that was made. They need to stop pretending that this is a fair and transparent process when it clearly isn't.

 

[Parrott]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

I reckon it's more likely they'll re-write the character reference rules. I suspect we got a bit too clever and the panel reacted. I expected 4 weeks all along due to the seriousness of the injury.

One day I want to be a nice guy like you ...

 

[T-Shirt Tommy]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

I reckon it's more likely they'll re-write the character reference rules. I suspect we got a bit too clever and the panel reacted. I expected 4 weeks all along due to the seriousness of the injury.

Too clever? Why? Because we followed the rules as written by the AFL?

 

[IanG]

Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli

forget the AFL circus senario!
I will say it again! you cannot strike a player behind play and knock him out just because you are being held!
Umpires are there to pick up those behind play holding and yes they miss some!

Its been pointed out in reply to yourself before that it wasn't behind play.