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Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
A couple of weeks ago on radio, Jimmy Bartel explained the parameters.
If an incident occurs within 5 meters of the ball, it is construed as being 'in play' and can be assessed as careless or reckless.
Further from play than this and it MUST be graded as intentional.
Hence, Buddy can wade through a pack all elbows and ass and the most he'll ever get is a lower end charge, .....if anything.
The strict application of the rule was brought in to stop off the ball incidents, usually by serial thugs, and unfortunately cleanskin Bachar was caught in the dragnet because there was only one definition that could apply, even if an anomaly.
Too much has been made of the character witness statements, which are accepted testimony under the AFL's own provisions. They have been earned through action and purpose, and to not provide them would have been negligent.
His playing record is exemplary, and deserved the merit it afforded him.
So although the tribunal was constrained by literal interpretation which could be appealed if not applied, I think their judgement was just and far from manifestly inadequate.
Contrast it to this - Article posted on Journos board, " perspective on Houli..." - , which goes a fair way to explaining why Nathan Bourke may be frothing all over the media, and in my opinion would have provided grounds for appeal by us.
mrposhman said:
A couple of weeks ago on radio, Jimmy Bartel explained the parameters.
If an incident occurs within 5 meters of the ball, it is construed as being 'in play' and can be assessed as careless or reckless.
Further from play than this and it MUST be graded as intentional.
Hence, Buddy can wade through a pack all elbows and ass and the most he'll ever get is a lower end charge, .....if anything.
The strict application of the rule was brought in to stop off the ball incidents, usually by serial thugs, and unfortunately cleanskin Bachar was caught in the dragnet because there was only one definition that could apply, even if an anomaly.
Too much has been made of the character witness statements, which are accepted testimony under the AFL's own provisions. They have been earned through action and purpose, and to not provide them would have been negligent.
His playing record is exemplary, and deserved the merit it afforded him.
So although the tribunal was constrained by literal interpretation which could be appealed if not applied, I think their judgement was just and far from manifestly inadequate.
Contrast it to this - Article posted on Journos board, " perspective on Houli..." - , which goes a fair way to explaining why Nathan Bourke may be frothing all over the media, and in my opinion would have provided grounds for appeal by us.
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
In advance of any *smile* racist booing, we should start a 'grow a beard for Bachar' initiative. Stop shaving now, everyone turns up to his return game with a beard to show solidarity. Could sell fake beards as well, could be a moneyspinner! 8-
In advance of any *smile* racist booing, we should start a 'grow a beard for Bachar' initiative. Stop shaving now, everyone turns up to his return game with a beard to show solidarity. Could sell fake beards as well, could be a moneyspinner! 8-
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
Every week we have to hear Dermie and Browny and their sundry accolites waxing on about what hardmen they were and how great it was, but if there is so much as a bit of harmless jumper punching they startt losing their *smile*.
it was a good post.tigersnake said:
Every week we have to hear Dermie and Browny and their sundry accolites waxing on about what hardmen they were and how great it was, but if there is so much as a bit of harmless jumper punching they startt losing their *smile*.
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
Circus.
If Houli gets 4,5 or 6 weeks the RFC should come out and appeal the appeal on the grounds that what Burke came out and said straight after the verdict, a former member of the panel should be enough to have the verdict left at 2( or even dismissed ). ?
Who is a legal eagle here?
Can the club have grounds for this if the AFL goes whack. ?
Also I'm for grow a beard for 'Houli Return Game Beard Support'. Great idea.
Circus.
If Houli gets 4,5 or 6 weeks the RFC should come out and appeal the appeal on the grounds that what Burke came out and said straight after the verdict, a former member of the panel should be enough to have the verdict left at 2( or even dismissed ). ?
Who is a legal eagle here?
Can the club have grounds for this if the AFL goes whack. ?
Also I'm for grow a beard for 'Houli Return Game Beard Support'. Great idea.
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
Is he a Tigers man? always said he was a good bloke 8-
22nd Man said:
Is he a Tigers man? always said he was a good bloke 8-
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
This bloke's gotta start realising that Brisbane isn't the only team to talk about.
evo said:
This bloke's gotta start realising that Brisbane isn't the only team to talk about.
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easy_tiger
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Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
On the first point, law won't come into it. It should, but it won't.
On the second point, I'd buy a prosthetic beard.
On a further point, I thought beauty, Pell will take the Tigers of the front page, but they are running the story that he was
on Richmonds list
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waiting said:
On the first point, law won't come into it. It should, but it won't.
On the second point, I'd buy a prosthetic beard.
On a further point, I thought beauty, Pell will take the Tigers of the front page, but they are running the story that he was
on Richmonds list
.
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easy_tiger
Guest
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
For the record, Pell was a big useless lump of a player. Just got on the list because he was big and via catholic hierarchy links to the club back then. Which is classic Pell, he's a political animal.
For the record, Pell was a big useless lump of a player. Just got on the list because he was big and via catholic hierarchy links to the club back then. Which is classic Pell, he's a political animal.
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
Just adding to the circus....I heard on SEN that scumbag Parrott has organised for Barry Hall and Brent Staker to meet on The Footy Show tonight.
Just adding to the circus....I heard on SEN that scumbag Parrott has organised for Barry Hall and Brent Staker to meet on The Footy Show tonight.
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easy_tiger
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Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
he's got a few strings to his animal-bow, allegedly.
Yeah, it's a wag-the-dog type highly managed circus
tigersnake said:
he's got a few strings to his animal-bow, allegedly.
TigerForce said:
Yeah, it's a wag-the-dog type highly managed circus
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
Would it be a good move to call the Tribunal members as witnesses? After all, it's their decision that's on trial here.
Would it be a good move to call the Tribunal members as witnesses? After all, it's their decision that's on trial here.
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Bill James
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Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
Charged with bringing the game into disrepute? Called the pope as a reference.easy said:
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Bill James
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Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
Honestly it looks like Houli looks before whacking. The unintentional claim looks clumsy. That said the doctrine of contributory negligence should apply to Lamb, he wantonly and deliberately decided to wear a Carlton jumper.
Honestly it looks like Houli looks before whacking. The unintentional claim looks clumsy. That said the doctrine of contributory negligence should apply to Lamb, he wantonly and deliberately decided to wear a Carlton jumper.
Re: Bachar "The Nice Guy" Houli
We could go full WWF mode.
21 players run out, the lights dim, the announcer intones ominously...
"And now the moment you've all been waiting for
The Beard That's Feared
The Sheikh Of Sleep
The Imam Of The Lamb Slam
The ferocious, the deadly... Bachar... HOULI!!!!"
Houli storms onto the arena, live chained tigers on either side pawing the air, strobe lights flashing, while 120 decibels of Enter Sandman thunders from the MCG's PA system.
Somehow I don't think Bachar would go for it.
tigersnake said:
We could go full WWF mode.
21 players run out, the lights dim, the announcer intones ominously...
"And now the moment you've all been waiting for
The Beard That's Feared
The Sheikh Of Sleep
The Imam Of The Lamb Slam
The ferocious, the deadly... Bachar... HOULI!!!!"
Houli storms onto the arena, live chained tigers on either side pawing the air, strobe lights flashing, while 120 decibels of Enter Sandman thunders from the MCG's PA system.
Somehow I don't think Bachar would go for it.
