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AFL Player Dies in Las Vegas
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Ian4 said:
Looks to me like he may have wondered out onto the roof and it may have been a self closing/locking door from the outside.
He may have tried to get back in to no avail and then in his drunken state thought the only way down was to jump onto the tree.
23.21.159 said:
The next Chief Football writer for the HUN. Can't be worse than the current crop.
tiges said:
Not calling anyone a liar but that sounds a lot better than "we got in but he didn't (possibly because of the state he was in) so we boxed on without him".
smasha said:
I think I might know what you're getting at...if I'm right it's been touched on in this thread and alluded to in a couple of articles too. I've heard many stories of people doing extreme things when they were under the influence of illicit substances (or when they've decided not to take things i.e. medication that they were actually supposed to). I repeat I don't know any more than anyone else so I'm not saying it's happened here but I even know of cases where things very similar to this have happened. Who knows what they were thinking at the exact moment...did they think they could fly or were they having a severe psychotic episode and wanted to end it as soon as possible? Sometimes you'll never know and it's debatable how much it matters. At the end of the day they did something that they basically wouldn't have done if they weren't under the influence of said substances.
if they had only recently landed in las vegas then there is a very good chance he was badly jet lagged..especially if he had been drinking on the plane...added to this a total lack of sleep..and alcohol its pretty easy to feel delusional and pretty "out there"....
premiers2012 said:
This sounds feasible to me, probably didn't get into the nightclub with the rest of them as has been suggested and went wandering. Just a really tragic accident and it doesn't need drugs to explain it he could have just been very drunk.
I don't think it was drugs.
At the end of the day, grog, young blokes, Vegas, and a rooftop is a recipe for disaster.
A lot of us have done dangerous things when we were young and under the influence of alcohol. Luckily many of us have lived to tell the tale, and that's all it is now, a drunken story.
John and his family not so lucky. Cannot imagine the pain it would bring to a parent having to bury their kid.
The team mates would be incredibly regretful that they let him be by himself...they'd be wondering 'what if' they didn't.
At the end of the day, grog, young blokes, Vegas, and a rooftop is a recipe for disaster.
A lot of us have done dangerous things when we were young and under the influence of alcohol. Luckily many of us have lived to tell the tale, and that's all it is now, a drunken story.
John and his family not so lucky. Cannot imagine the pain it would bring to a parent having to bury their kid.
The team mates would be incredibly regretful that they let him be by himself...they'd be wondering 'what if' they didn't.
Tigermad2005 said:
I did but it now appears to be an accident. Sounds like he had a few drinks (and yes alcohol is technically a drug) but nothing else. Basically I was suggesting he may have taken something and had a really bad reaction i.e. a psychotic episode and jumped deliberately...either because he thought he could fly or he knew he couldn't but in his altered state he saw it as his best option for whatever reason. Now it seems it was an accident and in all likelihood he wasn't under the influence of anything other than alcohol.
rokin.tiger said:
The results may well be released.
Coronial system works differently in the US depending on the state.
The incident has received some profile over there so we will probably all find out within the next month or so if drugs were in his system.
Sounds like a strange situation, rang his girlfriend who thought he was acting strange enough to then call one of the other players that was over there, the player the rang him to check if he was OK, a few minutes later while a lone with no one to egg him on he jumped off a roof 4 stories up to try & get to a palm tree that was a very ambitious jump to make at the best of times. Certainly sounds like he was of sound mind.
Herald Sun article now up saying the club confirmed he/other players were drinking. Not really a surprise given he's tried to jump off a 10m roof onto a palm tree. Also speculates about drugs given apparently the players said they were freely available at the club.
TigerForce said:
Must have been totally smashed drunk though to jump off the top of a building onto a palm tree.
But then it was stated today that he spoke to a player by phone and said he was on his way back to hotel. So
one would think if your coherrant enough to hold a conversation then you wouldn't be absolutely blind drunk.
tiges said:
The strangest part of this story is how he got up to the roof through the exit stairs.
TigerForce said:
I guess everyone acts different on the Booze , some people can't handle it others can but geez to be that out
of it he must have drank an awful lot .
They said on the news the door was open and not locked and that most likely he was locked out
and couldn't get back down so tried jumping onto the Palm tree.
TigerForce said:
Or why.
I kinda get it though as I've been drunk/wasted (which I absolutely discourage and regret) in town at times and the little devil inside has encouraged me to get in situations I might not of otherwise entertained sober/straight.
