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AFL Betting Thread

tigerman said:
Very tempting easy.
I'm not sure the Giants injury troubles are as bad as made out.
Coniglio is a big out as is Hopper, Griffen and Delideo haven't played all year and the rest aren't really established.
Miles, lloyd, Prestia and Soldo would need to come in for us to be a chance.

one of my non-neg tiger punting rules is that I dont back us with more than 3 VFL players. (cant remember if ive detailed this rule or not, apologies and disregard if im repeating myself)

my current list of VFL players (excludes young promisings. its the blokes who I reckon are AFL tested and their limitations are evident)

Lennon, batchelor, townsend, lambert, miles, lloyd, hunt, broad, morris, drummond, elton.

so If Miles and Lloyd come in, Batch and Lambo would both have to go. I actually dont think WHO makes up the VFL contingent makes much difference. Its a numbers thing.

last 2 weeks, weve been on VFL=3, which is sailing close to the wind, but leaves us winnable (I didnt back us either week). This kind of calibrated my model. we were on VFL = 3 and we were seconds/a kick away. If VFL had been restricted to 2, Ithink

we'd have won both games. four of the first five we won, VFL =2 and against WC VFL=3

VFL>3, I rule a line through us, even if we are playing Brisbane on The G. Ideally VFL = 2.

so at selection this week, I'd want

Out: Elton and one of lambert or batchelor

In: Prestia and one of Soldo or Chol

that would actually leave VFL = 1 (lambert or batchelor, id prefer batchelor for structure), which would be a very good sign and pave the way for a crack for me.

a couple of notes. #1 - if the side includes Elton, I wont back us. #2 Bellis and Houli are on my watch list, potentially to be included as VFL ceiling players in 2018, #3 ruckman are excluded, although I'd be very reluctant to back us if VFL=3 and hammer was in the side. #4 The rule flags when NOT to back us, not when TO back us (i.e. VFL > 3, cant back, non-neg; VFL < 3, consider other factors and have the option to back)
 
Have you done an analysis as to whether we've won with 4 of the aforementioned 11 vfl players?
 
Interesting easy, I like it.
What if the the players coming in are better than the guys they're replacing.
Lloyd for Castagna, Prestia for Markov, Miles for C. Ellis and Soldo for Elton.
 
tigertim said:
Have you done an analysis as to whether we've won with 4 of the aforementioned 11 vfl players?

no. It anecdotal and in my head. I think it would stand up to proper analysis though.

tigerman said:
Interesting easy, I like it.
What if the the players coming in are better than the guys they're replacing.
Lloyd for Castagna, Prestia for Markov, Miles for C. Ellis and Soldo for Elton.

Nuh, its weight of numbers, rather than names. there seems to be a composure/class tipping point and I reckon its 3. Ive probably used this system for about 5 years.

If we can go in saturday with VFL=1 or even 0 (i.e. Out: Lambert, Batch, Elton In: Prestia, Bolton, Chol)

I'd be very bullish about our chances.
 
A couple of weeks ago I had a bit on Clayton Oliver for the Brownlow at $51. He's $29 most places now ($32 Betfair) and I reckon he'd be close to the lead in the count at this stage of the year.
 
spook said:
A couple of weeks ago I had a bit on Clayton Oliver for the Brownlow at $51. He's $29 most places now ($32 Betfair) and I reckon he'd be close to the lead in the count at this stage of the year.

That's a good bet spook, I've backed Rockliff at $101.
Just had a look at their numbers, Oliver has had 7 more possessions, with Rockliff kicking 3 more goals. Playing in a losing side won't help Rockliff though.
 
tigerman said:
That's a good bet spook, I've backed Rockliff at $101.
Just had a look at their numbers, Oliver has had 7 more possessions, with Rockliff kicking 3 more goals. Playing in a losing side won't help Rockliff though.
Neither will missing the next 2-3 weeks with a dislocated shoulder, tiger.

Oliver would be the second-youngest winner ever, after *smile* Reynolds.
 
spook said:
Neither will missing the next 2-3 weeks with a dislocated shoulder, tiger.

Oliver would be the second-youngest winner ever, after *smile* Reynolds.

Yes that's the trouble when you back them so early in the season.
I can't remember who it was now, but i backed someone to win the Brownlow a few years ago and he did his hamstring the very next game :mad:
 
tigerman said:
Yes that's the trouble when you back them so early in the season.
I can't remember who it was now, but i backed someone to win the Brownlow a few years ago and he did his hamstring the very next game :mad:

I feel sorry for the blokes back Cotch in 2012. I'd be sueing Jobe for damages.
 
Was a TAB ticket that was thrown out.

Don't have the evidence.

Those that backed online...maybe.
 
Leysy Days said:
Was a TAB ticket that was thrown out.

Don't have the evidence.

Those that backed online...maybe.

Pretty sure if it came to it you still have a case. If you can triangulate some other evidence, a post on here, witnesses, also the tote you placed the bet at would have an e-record if you have the amount, odds, rough time period.
 
Leysy Days said:
Was a TAB ticket that was thrown out.

Don't have the evidence.

Those that backed online...maybe.

I backed him on Betfair but the conditions are pretty clear - payout is based upon the winner declared on the night.
 
tigersnake said:
Pretty sure if it came to it you still have a case. If you can triangulate some other evidence, a post on here, witnesses, also the tote you placed the bet at would have an e-record if you have the amount, odds, rough time period.

All leysy knows it was 25/1

Leysy can't remember breakfast this morning let alone the remainder.
 
Leysy Days said:
All leysy knows it was 25/1

Leysy can't remember breakfast this morning let alone the remainder.

I hear ya on that. Yet I can remember key moments in Richmond games since I was about 8.
 
Ok its all on V GWS fellas.

VFL = 2, and they are 2 of the more servicable in the category - Lloyd and Lambert

The track will be a Soft 6 and we are small and oh so quick (Men Are Due, $hai, Drioli, George).

were gonna *smile*ing win this one.

heres my bet, implementing The Ratchet.

50% of your stake at $2 with a 25 point start: 25% to win h2h @ $4.5: 25% to win over 15.5 @ $8

cover is essential, given our recent strife. In the wet, 4 goals is good cover.

money back on a loss less than 4 goals, double you money on a 1 pt win, quadrouple your money on a 2.5 goal win.

I would recommend trying this at home.
 
jb03 said:
I backed him on Betfair but the conditions are pretty clear - payout is based upon the winner declared on the night.

but noone is talking about suing Betfair. The Bummers and Watson's illegal action stopped punters from collecting on their bet. they are responsible.