911 Truth Movement

[evo]

So which of the points you didn't quote that came straight after the part you did are half truths in your opinion?

It is a bit of a pointless exercise mate. Given enough time and motivation, I bet I could make at least as convincing essay using the exact same events but instead making an argument the Illuminati/ Freemasons/ Vatican was behind the entire plot. No doubt you've read or seen the Da Vinci Code, it's not that hard to construct.

 

[Disco08]

I don't see how it's pointless. Those points are clear motive for the 9/11 plot and explain fairly compellingly many of the oddities that at first glance seem mundane.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

I don't see how it's pointless. Those points are clear motive for the 9/11 plot and explain fairly compellingly many of the oddities that at first glance seem mundane.

Stick to the first glance then, trust your instincts. They look mundane because they are.

 

[Disco08]

Have you even looked at it?

 

[tigertim]

I don't see how it's pointless. Those points are clear motive for the 9/11 plot and explain fairly compellingly many of the oddities that at first glance seem mundane.

What points are a clear motive for what?

 

[Disco08]

Have you read it and missed those points or do you just not want to look at it so need it explained to you?

 

[tigertim]

Have you read it and missed those points or do you just not want to look at it so need it explained to you?

Both......no, I just wanted to hear your interpretation.

 

[Disco08]

So (b). :hihi

1 - In 1991 as part of the cold war George H Bush and Alan Greenspan covertly financed $240B as part of illicit funding for ongoing US war attempts including the economic takeover of the USSR.

2 - These bonds were stored in the vaults of the WTC and due for settlement and clearance on 9/12/01.

3 - The Office of Naval Intelligence was investigating these bonds at the time of 9/11/01.

4 - WTC7 was used to house records of these investigations.

5 - To secure these funds without detection the SEC needed to enact a state of emergency.

6 - AA77 flew a miraculous route and ignored much greater targets (SoD's office; US armed forces command) risking increased chances of crashing and being intercepted to fly directly into the ONI where 39 out of 40 officers were killed. These people were also never warned of the incoming flight despite plenty of evidence to suggest it was being tracked (as it should have been).

7 - AA11 and UAL175 impacted the towers precisely below the US's 2 largest securities brokers. The 3rd was targetted by exposions widely reported by eyewitnesses at the 22nd floor of tower 1. Worth remembering in this context is GW Bush's faux pas that al Qaeda operatives were instructed to use enough explosives to ensure no one above the explosions could escape. 41% of fatalities in the twin towers came from these companies. Occupants inside tower 2 were never warned to evacuate (the opposite is true) despite plenty of evidence that they should have been.

8 - Responding to this the SEC declared emergency on 9/12.

9 - WTC7 was destroyed and is still the only high rise building in history to collapse due to fire. All records of the ONI investigation were also destroyed.

This is just the basic hypothesis though. There's a lot more research and history contained in the essay and some other amazing connections are revealed.

 

[Soda]

So (b). :hihi

1 - In 1991 as part of the cold war George H Bush and Alan Greenspan covertly financed $240B as part of illicit funding for ongoing US war attempts including the economic takeover of the USSR.

2 - These bonds were stored in the vaults of the WTC and due for settlement and clearance on 9/12/01.

3 - The Office of Naval Intelligence was investigating these bonds at the time of 9/11/01.

4 - WTC7 was used to house records of these investigations.

5 - To secure these funds without detection the SEC needed to enact a state of emergency.

6 - AA77 flew a miraculous route and ignored much greater targets (SoD's office; US armed forces command) risking increased chances of crashing and being intercepted to fly directly into the ONI where 39 out of 40 officers were killed. These people were also never warned of the incoming flight despite plenty of evidence to suggest it was being tracked (as it should have been).

7 - AA11 and UAL175 impacted the towers precisely below the US's 2 largest securities brokers. The 3rd was targetted by exposions widely reported by eyewitnesses at the 22nd floor of tower 1. Worth remembering in this context is GW Bush's faux pas that al Qaeda operatives were instructed to use enough explosives to ensure no one above the explosions could escape. 41% of fatalities in the twin towers came from these companies. Occupants inside tower 2 were never warned to evacuate (the opposite is true) despite plenty of evidence that they should have been.

8 - Responding to this the SEC declared emergency on 9/12.

9 - WTC7 was destroyed and is still the only high rise building in history to collapse due to fire. All records of the ONI investigation were also destroyed.

This is just the basic hypothesis though. There's a lot more research and history contained in the essay and some other amazing connections are revealed.

Sounds like you've got the makings of a great screenplay.

 

[TigerForce]

This thread is getting bigger than War & Peace. What volume are we up to?

 

[AngryAnt]

So you've said all along you reject conspiracy theories and support the "complicity" theory. And yet now you support the biggest, most convoluted, most complex and incoherent theory of all.


Truth is last week you believed Larry did in "complicity" with Bush. This week you believe it was the Vulcan Illuminati. Next week you'll read some other piece of research.

 

[Soda]

So you've said all along you reject conspiracy theories and support the "complicity" theory. And yet now you support the biggest, most convoluted, most complex and incoherent theory of all.


Truth is last week you believed Larry did in "complicity" with Bush. This week you believe it was the Vulcan Illuminati. Next week you'll read some other piece of research.

It's a work in progress aman

 

[Disco08]

So you've said all along you reject conspiracy theories and support the "complicity" theory. And yet now you support the biggest, most convoluted, most complex and incoherent theory of all.


Truth is last week you believed Larry did in "complicity" with Bush. This week you believe it was the Vulcan Illuminati. Next week you'll read some other piece of research.

So shoot me for being interested by 9/11 and posting some of what interests me most on a thread about 9/11.

This theory obviously needs a lot of proving but the connections are pretty clear if that's done.

You still have no idea about my opinion despite the fact I've stated it often.

So does anyone want to comment on the actual content of this theory?

 

[KnightersRevenge]

So shoot me for being interested by 9/11 and posting some of what interests me most on a thread about 9/11.

This theory obviously needs a lot of proving but the connections are pretty clear if that's done.

You still have no idea about my opinion despite the fact I've stated it often.

So does anyone want to comment on the actual content of this theory?

Why? The debate seems circular and bereft of any chance of a conclusion. Perhaps that is the source of frustration, you are happy to conjecture without any need for a conclusion which most people find tiresome. They don't naturally accept conjecture as fact. It seems more a philosophical exercise than a scientific one. On top of that the insistence that mundane connections between people and events is somehow a robust proof of something doesn't hold up. My family's moving around Ireland and leaving Ireland can be connected to IRA activity. My family come from one of the most notorious breeding grounds for IRA bomb tech's, and our neighbour (and my godfather) may have been a bomb tech. Using the correct -though intentionally skewed- lens you could easily put together a scenario. The connections would be "pretty clear". It would still be nonsense.

 

[Disco08]

There's more to it than mundane connections. Of course you'd have to actually read it to figure that out.

There's been plenty presented here that goes beyond simple conjecture but you guys seem to want to ignore most of that.

 

[AngryAnt]

If we criticise it as being more than mere conjecture engaged in by responsible adults you'll accuse us of positing a massive conspiracy

 

[Disco08]

Not if you try and discuss the actual facts/evidence without reference to their implausability because of the massive conspiracy they imply.

 

[AngryAnt]

Not if you try and discuss the actual facts/evidence without reference to their implausability because of the massive conspiracy they imply.

I'm afraid I can't do that Dave

 

[Disco08]

Yeah I noticed.

 

[tigertim]

Not if you try and discuss the actual facts/evidence without reference to their implausability because of the massive conspiracy they imply.

it only implies a conspiracy to those that want it to be a conspiracy.