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911 Truth Movement
- Thread starter Harry
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I would have thought an ex wife, someone who really new Marshall behind closed doors would be in a better position to proffer an opinion than a neighbour who only sees a fleeting glimpse of him. We are all on our best behaviour in front of neighbours and colleagues etc but your spouse sees the real you.Disco08 said:
Do you agree or disagree with that?
Yeah that's fair to a point although most people with violent tendencies will exhibit them in public from time to time.
Sorry tim. I thought the article was centred on his current wife. Not Kallauner who Marshall was married to much earlier on.
Kallauner said Marshall could be “mean” to her and “had a temper” but she did not see him as violent
He also yelled at his boss once and threw clubs when he played golf. OMG.
So in other words your accusations are completely hollow as usual.
tigertim said:
Sorry tim. I thought the article was centred on his current wife. Not Kallauner who Marshall was married to much earlier on.
Kallauner said Marshall could be “mean” to her and “had a temper” but she did not see him as violent
He also yelled at his boss once and threw clubs when he played golf. OMG.
Baloo said:
So in other words your accusations are completely hollow as usual.
It's odd you "omg" her comments as if they're irrelevant but validate neighbours comments that he didn't seem te kind off guy to kill his children.Disco08 said:
" he kind of got mad and smacked my back against the seat"
" he received counselling for alcohol but wouldn't go o AA"
" he wasn't a Contra pilot, that was all fantasy"
" he was arrested for battery against Erin Chamberlain" from another article.
Disco doesn't live n Victoria so won't know the Farquharson or the Arthur Freeman cases. But it's a good get MR. Turns out Farquharson was a junior footy coach AND killed his 3 kids!michael roach said:
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/content/2011/s3176010.htm
tigertim said:
I live in Queensland and know all about it. Cases like that make national news
An interesting article on parents who kill;tigersnake said:
http://www.smh.com.au/national/seeking-to-understand-the-inexplicable-20120224-1trvd.html
Note towards the end DV researcher Dbbie Kirkwood says how many say " he was a loving dad, a good dad and that people are shocked with what's happened"
tigertim said:
Yelling at your boss and throwing clubs on the golf course is worlds away from shooting your children in the head. So is pushing your wife back in her seat and that was decades previous. Getting counseling for alcohol is a good thing right? Perhaps he thought that was better than AA. Is there any evidence to suggest he was struggling with alcoholism at the time of these deaths?
He was arrested for allegedly slapping Erin Chamberlain and those charges were dropped.
Not sure what the contra pilot info has to do with Marshall.
michael roach said:
That's a pretty contentious case though right? At least enough for him to have had the initial verdict overturned at appeal. Some of the main evidence against him also seems to be testimony that he told a friend he was going to murder his kids to hurt his ex-wife. He was also on prescibed anti depressents.
Freeman had similar motive and was obvisouly in a terrible state of mind.
Did Marshall have any motive along these lines? Weren't his children in his custody?
There's a lot of personality traits being displayed by Marshall to n dictate his mental earth was not stable:Disco08 said:
A problem with alcohol
Domestic violence against 2 wives
A problem with authority
Issues with his medication
An impending divorce
His daughter stating on her Instagram that she wanted to throw the cat and its outstretched claws at him
Farquharson was found guilty twice of triple murder. Yes, evidence against him was that he told a friend he was going to kill his kids in a dam on Father's Day which he went on to do. He had access to his kids and was relatively friendly with his ex wife.
Disco08 said:
Not really. It's more a case of when you been pinged for scampering away from a point you've denied it, refuted it, tried to ridicule us and when your backs to the wall come out with the pleading "why can't you take me at my word" or words to that effect.
I really thought this was just a big pisstaking fishing expedition for you for a while there but now you seem to really believe that you've been rational, mature and open minded in this debate.
Baloo said:
The upside down book again. How hilarious. Continuing to insult me while running away from my requests to provide any example is hypocrisy at its very best.
I'm happy to discuss any facet of 9/11. I'll give you an honest opinion and while you respect me I'll show you the same courtesy.
tigertim said:
Define domestic violence for me. Pushing someone with s stop short type of manouvre and allegedly slapping someone seems pretty mild.
Problems with his medication? What was he on? What was it treating? How long had he been without?
His teenage daughter got upset with him? Hardly unusual.
Was he upset about the impending divorce? How long had they be separated?
Seems to me you're ignoring a lot of evidence from people close to Marshall as to his general character and temperament. Some people might call that character assasination.
What "evidence" have I "ignored"? You mean neighbors who said he wasn't the type to kill his children? Have you read the links I put up where this is a common response to a killing? Are you being objective Disco?Disco08 said:
Domestic violence definition. I'm surprised you need to have it defined. http://www.domesticviolence.nsw.gov.au/
I hope your not one to minimise DV.
Disco08 said:
The book is just one example, but a telling one none the less. To called it a fact as you see it. When it was pointed out it never happened you went on the offensive. Then there was the grey plane that hit WTC2. After I pasted the photos of the wreckage showing windows and what not, you magically do your own research and conclude you proved to yourself it was a real airliner. Then there's the wreckage of the Philly crash which you claim plane debris was found miles and miles away, an improbable result for a plane crash. When it was pointed put the wreckage in question was string and paper so highly probable, you stop mentioning it and switch away. Not once have you conceded a point where someone else brought evidence showing the truthers were barking up the wrong tree.
Using the victims families as the reason for the truth movement was pathetic. When taken to task on that you wriggled and reacted with fake hurt that you weren't using them as a debating gambit but just stating the facts. Both sides could have used what the victims family want in their arguments, but only one person in this debate continuously used them.
There's a couple of examples, plenty more. In all of those you attacked anyone who didnt believe your version of events. You've shown no respect to anyone, other than Harry, in ths debate. Why do you think you deserve any in return ?
Wow, this thread is meandering everywhere and I am finding it hard to keep up.
I have only two questions, no three questions.
Who is Phillip Marshall and what is his connection to the 9/11 thingo (that's ABC balance talk); and
When do we get around to alien anal probes?
I have only two questions, no three questions.
Who is Phillip Marshall and what is his connection to the 9/11 thingo (that's ABC balance talk); and
When do we get around to alien anal probes?
