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2024 Richmond Coach
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The 2 plastic clubs were gifted pick after pick and apart from a GF appearance.Both have nothing to show for it.
Lynch out hasn't helped one bit along with Jr's form & injury.
I have no idea on Grigga's coaching crudentials.
If he gets the gig though, forget about AstonMartin leaving.
IIRC Asto is good mates with our Premiership Ruckman (still sounds funny!).
Although, could Grigga tell Dusty what to do in a Coach/Player scenario?
Big if, of course.
Also need to factor in the massive bill for fumigating Grigga as he would have to go through a DSP.
What is that? A De Salting Procedure!
Not sure who would be best for 2024, but we need a really strong type wh is prepared to break a few habits and totally disregard the biggest of reputations among our playing group. The dynasty was great, but it is also nearly three seasons gone.
Big differences in the way they are setting up defensively and how they defend when they have the ball.
When I say a young coach I don't mean in age, I mean in experience. Someone like Hinkley, Hardwick, McRae etc were when they started.
Our ideal candidate should be someone who has been an assistant coach and has coached their own second tier team and been successful. That's going to give you a 40 something year old who is ready to go.
You have to look at the list profile.
Port had 12 guys 24 or under on Sunday, including Butters, Rozee and Horne-Francis. That's a premiership midfield core. They had 2 guys over 30.
We had 9 24 or under Bolton and Balta but no quality pure midfielders of note. We had 7 guys over 30.
Those lists are going in opposite directions.
Port have done well to get a few really talented young players, undoubtedly.
if you go to 25yo- guys who should still be at their peak for at least the next 5 year- it changes to 13 for them, 12 for us, and suddenly adds to our list the best midfielder on the park on Sunday.
also, of our 7 over 30, i reckon we could easily replace Riewoldt and Cotch, with say Cumberland (or Gibcus) and Sonsie, and not really lose a lot- especially on Sunday's performance. Pickett likewise.
Our oldies (except for Broad) (and Dusty at times) arent really giving us a heap, but they are inflating our experience stats.
(be interesting to see those averages with Gibcus and Sonsie in for Jack and Cotch, and for them Boak and Dixon in for say Lord and Evans. I doubt the results change much but suddenly we look a lot younger, and vice versa.)
But that isnt to take anything away from Port- if can get Hardwick on board in 2024, and retire Dixon, they should probably be raging flag favourites.
and for us, our list undoubtedly needs some changes, but they are going to be forced upon us, starting with 2 of the greatest retiring, but i dont reckon we need to
BURN IT DOWN
25 year olds having 5 years of peak is a stretch, the average age of a premiership player is 27. We had 4 30 year olds in 2020, 3 in 2019 and 0 in 2017.
I think you are looking at a game result rather than a premiership list there. Yes you could replace an ageing Riewoldt and Cotchin with Cumberland and Sonsie but are Cumberland and Sonsie capable of being 300 game pillars of multiple premierships? Highly unlikely I'd say.
To be a premiership team we need a blue chip midfield and at least one elite quality forward and two elite quality defenders as an absolute minimum.
So where are we at with that? Ryan maybe, Gibcus probably, Balta who knows? I can't see any semblance of a blue chip midfield on our list right now, so we either have the young talent on our list that is going to come through or we have a lot of work to do.
Don't count Taranto and Hopper, by the time we have the likes of Gibcus and Ryan and whoever else is going to form a premiership team getting to the 100 plus game window that premiership teams need (average 127 games), then they are going to be late 20s. If they are playing in our next flag it will be as flankers and part time midfielders, they won't be the core. The time for them to do that is now.
As for burning it down it all comes back to where we think we are at. If we think we have the list to contend again now and this season was an aberration caused by injury etc, then we tweak it, top up, bring in a free agent and try to challenge again.
If we accept this run is over and our next tilt is going to take 3 or 4 years to build for then we need to look at our list and assess where it is at in terms of players who will enter that 25-27 year old peak in that time frame.
If it is the latter option (which I believe) then we are in poor shape and need to cut and draft heavily for the next few seasons, if it is the former then we are trying to emulate something only one club has ever achieved while a whole heap have failed. As Sir Humphrey Appleby would say, a very courageous decision indeed.
No-one specific but agree Newman is the perfect candidate.
Surprised he doesn't get mentioned more.
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