wait, he's not walking the boundary anymore? Meehan must be gone.Running the boundary
wait, he's not walking the boundary anymore? Meehan must be gone.Running the boundary
It’s better not to mention him as people on here get too worked upDoesn't count to our list numbers, but people might like to know we're keeping him.
At ease, soldier.The anticipation is killing me.
Mate would probably injuring himself doing thatRunning the boundary
My wife says the same thing....At ease, soldier.
You’re lucky. My wife looks at me and I snap to attention and salute.My wife says the same thing....
I'd rather know why? Reckon OHB went past Colina the very first VFL game he played. One big lumbering lump on the B list is sufficient, would prefer us to add a different type to what's purely a hope n pray development position.Doesn't count to our list numbers, but people might like to know we're keeping him.
Reckon a combination of Covid and us winning 3 flags in a hurry stifled the *smile* out of any chance of the young blokes getting proper development for a few years. Simply left a few promising potential nearly blokes not getting much chance to even get considered for senior footy bar filling the occasional injury hole.5 years since he was drafted. I would have thought that’s plenty of time to see if he was up to afl standard.
Part of the List Management problem keeping players too long. Another example is Ben Miller, on the list for 7 years. and the jury is still out. He was always going to be a project players, forward, back, ruck..finally settled in the backline and showing some signs.
But 7 years!! Cumberland for 5 years! Then people wonder why we have so many holes in our list.
That’s one area where our List Management can and needs to improve. Keeping players for 5-7 years to see if they will eventually play at afl level. That’s just b.s. That’s an average of half a afl career if they’re lucky, just to see if they can play.
So it looks like we have a few issues that need addressing urgently.
1. Talent identification. Either we’ve got duds evaluating young players and use the incorrect matrix to identify talent or
2. Nurturing and improving the development of young players and/or
3. If 1. And 2. fail or have shortcomings, we tend to overrated a players ability to improve and keep them too long.
The 3 need to work in conjunction. A failure by any of them can set back the list. The whole strategy fails. A quicker turnover of players is a prerequisite, not just crossing your fingers and hoping they’ll come good. All of a sudden 5 or 6 years have gone by hoping.
That’s a big fail.
I’m certainly not a Blair hater, but tell me who’s responsibility it falls down to…
Respected, smart, good operator. But he has failed us over the last few years. He’s no genius. That’s obvious to anyone who wants to look at our list. If anyone argues that point, clearly they have little idea. The proof is there before your eyes. It’s not an opinion.
As I said, time to reset and reload
Best Post for 2024 Magnificent5 years since he was drafted. I would have thought that’s plenty of time to see if he was up to afl standard.
Part of the List Management problem keeping players too long. Another example is Ben Miller, on the list for 7 years. and the jury is still out. He was always going to be a project players, forward, back, ruck..finally settled in the backline and showing some signs.
But 7 years!! Cumberland for 5 years! Then people wonder why we have so many holes in our list.
That’s one area where our List Management can and needs to improve. Keeping players for 5-7 years to see if they will eventually play at afl level. That’s just b.s. That’s an average of half a afl career if they’re lucky, just to see if they can play.
So it looks like we have a few issues that need addressing urgently.
1. Talent identification. Either we’ve got duds evaluating young players and use the incorrect matrix to identify talent or
2. Nurturing and improving the development of young players and/or
3. If 1. And 2. fail or have shortcomings, we tend to overrated a players ability to improve and keep them too long.
The 3 need to work in conjunction. A failure by any of them can set back the list. The whole strategy fails. A quicker turnover of players is a prerequisite, not just crossing your fingers and hoping they’ll come good. All of a sudden 5 or 6 years have gone by hoping.
That’s a big fail.
I’m certainly not a Blair hater, but tell me who’s responsibility it falls down to…
Respected, smart, good operator. But he has failed us over the last few years. He’s no genius. That’s obvious to anyone who wants to look at our list. If anyone argues that point, clearly they have little idea. The proof is there before your eyes. It’s not an opinion.
As I said, time to reset and reload
You had me at Miller.5 years since he was drafted. I would have thought that’s plenty of time to see if he was up to afl standard.
Part of the List Management problem keeping players too long. Another example is Ben Miller, on the list for 7 years. and the jury is still out. He was always going to be a project players, forward, back, ruck..finally settled in the backline and showing some signs.
But 7 years!! Cumberland for 5 years! Then people wonder why we have so many holes in our list.
That’s one area where our List Management can and needs to improve. Keeping players for 5-7 years to see if they will eventually play at afl level. That’s just b.s. That’s an average of half a afl career if they’re lucky, just to see if they can play.
So it looks like we have a few issues that need addressing urgently.
1. Talent identification. Either we’ve got duds evaluating young players and use the incorrect matrix to identify talent or
2. Nurturing and improving the development of young players and/or
3. If 1. And 2. fail or have shortcomings, we tend to overrated a players ability to improve and keep them too long.
The 3 need to work in conjunction. A failure by any of them can set back the list. The whole strategy fails. A quicker turnover of players is a prerequisite, not just crossing your fingers and hoping they’ll come good. All of a sudden 5 or 6 years have gone by hoping.
That’s a big fail.
I’m certainly not a Blair hater, but tell me who’s responsibility it falls down to…
Respected, smart, good operator. But he has failed us over the last few years. He’s no genius. That’s obvious to anyone who wants to look at our list. If anyone argues that point, clearly they have little idea. The proof is there before your eyes. It’s not an opinion.
As I said, time to reset and reload
Especially considering he's lost 2 years of development and turns 26yo in May next year. At what age will he become useful on the very off chance he makes it? Pointless. Almost feels like we owe him something so are obliged to keep him. Did we stuff up his injury rehab?I'd rather know why? Reckon OHB went past Colina the very first VFL game he played. One big lumbering lump on the B list is sufficient, would prefer us to add a different type to what's purely a hope n pray development position.
100% agree on the holding onto players for too long. Turn them over and over until you find the ones who can quickly adapt. Might miss one or two that find their way to another club and succeed eventually. So be it. That's the skill of the recruiters to decide. On balance I firmly bilieve turning players over regularly gives you a better result than holding onto them.5 years since he was drafted. I would have thought that’s plenty of time to see if he was up to afl standard.
Part of the List Management problem keeping players too long. Another example is Ben Miller, on the list for 7 years. and the jury is still out. He was always going to be a project players, forward, back, ruck..finally settled in the backline and showing some signs.
But 7 years!! Cumberland for 5 years! Then people wonder why we have so many holes in our list.
That’s one area where our List Management can and needs to improve. Keeping players for 5-7 years to see if they will eventually play at afl level. That’s just b.s. That’s an average of half a afl career if they’re lucky, just to see if they can play.
So it looks like we have a few issues that need addressing urgently.
1. Talent identification. Either we’ve got duds evaluating young players and use the incorrect matrix to identify talent or
2. Nurturing and improving the development of young players and/or
3. If 1. And 2. fail or have shortcomings, we tend to overrated a players ability to improve and keep them too long.
The 3 need to work in conjunction. A failure by any of them can set back the list. The whole strategy fails. A quicker turnover of players is a prerequisite, not just crossing your fingers and hoping they’ll come good. All of a sudden 5 or 6 years have gone by hoping.
That’s a big fail.
I’m certainly not a Blair hater, but tell me who’s responsibility it falls down to…
Respected, smart, good operator. But he has failed us over the last few years. He’s no genius. That’s obvious to anyone who wants to look at our list. If anyone argues that point, clearly they have little idea. The proof is there before your eyes. It’s not an opinion.
As I said, time to reset and reload
If we go back to say ‘21 the list has changed with:You had me at Miller.
Not nearly enough list turnover in recent years and now we are stuck with multiple players that are not AFL standard. If you want to criticize Blair, I’d be focusing on this area.
At your age?! That's impressive!You’re lucky. My wife looks at me and I snap to attention and salute.
And 11 or so off the list within the last 12 months, 8 this year, which highly inflates inflates the the list turnover.If we go back to say ‘21 the list has changed with:
Grimes
Martin
Naish
Baker
Riewoldt
Cotchin
Edwards
Castagna
Astbury
Houli
Aarts
Rioli
Soldo
Caddy
Lambert
Collier-Dawkins
Graham
Parker
Cumberland
Martyn
Coleman Jones
Chol
Garthwaite
Eggmollesse-Smith
Stack
Nyuon
Pickett
Bolton
no longer on the list. It’s turned over heaps, it’s just that quality coming in wasn’t as good as a lot of the quality going
You’re too kind. But an excellent judgeBest Post for 2024 Magnificent
Kosi - fwd/ruck.........
The list composition is terrible. No ruck or ruck/fwd or fwd/ ruck. No key forwards, no specialist fwd pockets, .......
I stand slightly corrected.Kosi - fwd/ruck
Gray - Fwd/Ruck
Fawcett - KPF
Gray was impressive in training pre his hamstring. I can see why the got him. He turned Balta inside out a couple of times in match sims. Pee'd Balta off no end (was actually funny to watch).
The Tap looked good in his very limited minutes at VFL level late in the season. Strong contested marking.
If list sizes remain as per below we would have Max 8 spots
Minimum 37 players all up on list Maximum 44 players all up on list inc 2 Cat B Minimum 36 & max 38 on main list 4-6 Cat A Rookies 2 Cat B Rookies
I think we will upgrade Seth Campbell - Contracted to 2026 (along with Lefau) all other rookies are contracted till 2025