2024 Draft Thread

[Sintiger]

It's definitely harder for him.

But suspect cos he lined us up with players that aren't popular he's copping a fair bit on here - no idea, has it in for us etc etc.

He'll nut it out and get the top 10 at a minimum pretty much spot on as always.

I don’t think he has it for us at all. The issue is that we have so many picks and he isn’t getting the info he needs.
For instance we like player x. In other years that’s enough because we might have only one pick but now it’s, we like player x where? 6,10,11 later ?

 

[H tiger]

I (kind of) get why we wouldn’t bid on Ashcroft at #1 because it’s taking money off our first pick.

Does this apply though each subsequent pick? If not, why is Twomey predicting that Ashcroft will not be bid on until #5? Seems crazy…

 

[bullus_hit]

is it just me, or are most of Lalor's highlights of him taking marks up fwd and kicking goals. i dont see many centre clearances, ball up clearances and midfield work in his highlights. thats a little worrying considering we want a gun midfielder with pick 1......

Whilst Lalor is a mid by trade he wasn't tested as a mid state level, these are facts and not just speculation. Not having that information just adds another level of uncertainty, it's the main reason I would go for Jagga at 1.

For what its worth I really like and rate Travaglia and hope we get him...absolute gut runner.

His attack on the ball and follow up is just like my kelpie chasing a ball at the dog park...nothing is going to stop him getting it.

I would be happy with Travaglia, I reckon he's one of the safest types to pick at 10, In saying that, if we're reaching then we may as well trade up for pick 2.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Maybe. But he'll be doing half hourly updates right up to go-time. And even then he'll be saying 'I knew it would be like this if player X went at that pick etc etc'. I like him, he's grown on me, but his I told you so's can be a bit annoying. past performance is no guarantee of future performance.

I'm curious if half hourly updates up to go time are part of his Phantom Draft or not?

 

[tigersnake]

I'm curious if half hourly updates up to go time are part of his Phantom Draft or not?

If they are correct they are, incorrect they aren't.

 

[bullus_hit]

I'd be steering well clear of Hotton. Didn't convince re his knee at all.

Watched the Joe Berry interview. Reckon we've spoken to him a fair bit.

I have never seen so much interest in a player based on one game of football, even forgetting the knee it's such a small sample size to be using a first rounder, there's a good chance he's also lost some lateral movement.

 

[AstuteTiger]

 

[spook]

Who is the purest midfielder in the draft?

On output to this point Jagga would seem the most likely candidate.

If purest mid means the one who can't play any other position, then yeah, it's Smith.

Allan was a lock at #10. Taylor menacing the pick at #9. (It's possible we've just found out.) We pivot? Take Allan at #6 and wait on Smillie at #10.

Looks logical.

If Smillie gets to 10 that means we can trade 6. Tauru gets to 6. FOS gets to Richmond.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Also they talked a lot about Lombard. Looks like a real talent.
They had some insight into the Gold Coast Academy kids. Hadn't realised they were training plenty with the Gold Coast snr list.
That's a fair leg up in development for those jnrs with the knowledge & experience they'd glean from that exposure.

 

[momentai]

Allan was a lock at #10. Taylor menacing the pick at #9. (It's possible we've just found out.) We pivot? Take Allan at #6 and wait on Smillie at #10.

Looks logical.

Surely not if Tauru. Is still there Jack?

 

[tigersnake]

Also they talked a lot about Lombard. Looks like a real talent.
They had some insight into the Gold Coast Academy kids. Hadn't realised they were training plenty with the Gold Coast snr list.
That's a fair leg up in development for those jnrs with the knowledge & experience they'd glean from that exposure.

Lombard is ready to go. if he was on the open market would have been scrutinised more and knocking on the door of the top tier, like say Langford.

 

[The_General]

It's definitely harder for him.

But suspect cos he lined us up with players that aren't popular he's copping a fair bit on here - no idea, has it in for us etc etc.

He'll nut it out and get the top 10 at a minimum pretty much spot on as always.

What, like Shanahan?

 

[spook]

Also they talked a lot about Lombard.

Who's they?

 

[Bryson]

Classy move by the recruiting team to have CT initials on their polo's, huge respect for Chris

 

[bullus_hit]

Surely not if Tauru. Is still there Jack?

Operation Tauru is highly classified information, if we rank him at 6 then there's little chance such information would be leaked to the media. All the Travaglia & Allan rumours would be smoke screens, I can't see us biting at 6 and not trading for pick 2, none of this makes any sense. I think it's actually refreshing that Twomey is altering his mock at this late stage, it tells me the Richmond cone of silence has been highly effective.

 

[BrisTiger24]

Cal now saying we are 50/50 between Picking Smillie or Bo Allan at Pick 6

Interesting. He had Allan going to the Dees at pick 11. Wonder if we have leaked this to disrupt the thinking at the Dees and, if they want Allan, they need to take him at pick 5/6 or risk missing out on him.

FWIW, I would go Allan over Smillie at 6/7. Lower risk option, extreme leadership capability

 

[year of the tiger]

I'm not sure I'd even take him in the rookie draft. If he slides to 18, could an F1 be on the table?

The height arms race is amusing. Grand Finals are won by I50 handball chains, and amigos keep winning battles. Denuclearisation is the way.

AFL is strategically unsolved to a large degree, as full-time coaching groups only started 15 years ago. The game is riddled with sub-optimal strategies because it's young. Of course there's gold to be panned. The first club to leverage their full-time coaching group by prioritising a new age teaching environment immediately dominated, and so did countless disciples from that environment. Many strategic advantages are begging to be exploited. We stumbled upon some by accident in 2017, and some by design (thanks Dylan), but I can't wait for us to finally commit to more new school strategies.

"He thought the game would go this way, but then it went that way"

It's an essential risk to get ahead of the curve with our picks. Our 2014 was a risky year too.

I agree with the strategy / first mover advantage stuff you mention, it’s an interesting discussion and I agree a lot happens by chance.

But I don’t think you can generalise that easily - it’s class that wins, not the size. A classy tall or a classy small, either way, where there is more class you win finals.

Without the class of Dan Rioli, he was the class that got us going in the 2017 prelim and certainly without the class of Lynch, no way would we have made the big dance in 2019.

I reckon that’s the way we now treat first rounders, there is a lot said for picking the best available as you need to improve the over class of the squad - except this time we don’t want to pick 8 midfielders so there will be some list balancing happening along our first 8 picks.

 

[tigertime2]

This has Francis Jackson written all over it. They will honor Toce, but Francis is great at landing who we want.

 

[Sintiger]

From a friend who is related to a recruiter from another Melbourne club the biggest riser may well be Jasper Alger. Seen as someone with AFL traits, Luke Bruest type.
Richmond really likes him but so do others.

 

[bullus_hit]

Controversial take. The tall forwards in this draft are more likely the calibre of Hughes, Vickery, Post, Griffiths, Elton...rather than Riewoldt or Lynch. The one I would take a chance on is Faull because he busts packs and follows up at ground level.

Nothing controversial, I'd say you are being entirely accurate. This would be the reason I'd lock in Tauru and then grab a 200cm ruck/forward, at least these players have other avenues to an AFL career.