Lalor Tauru Lindsay Berry?
Think its more likely Lalor Tauru Smillie 'xxxx if Smillie gets through to 10.
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Think its more likely Lalor Tauru Smillie 'xxxx if Smillie gets through to 10.
AFL Draft hopeful Jesse Dattoli on how his family prepared him for footy and life
Dad Vinny’s six local footy premierships is hard to top but draft hopeful Jesse Dattoli could do that in an instant when his name is called out this week.
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November 18, 2024 - 1:00PM
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Footy, it’s the Dattoli family business.
Father Vinny Dattoli is a Northern league legend, three-time premiership player and three-time premiership coach.
It’s a record that’s hard to top.
Son, Jesse, could do that in an instant when his name is called out in this week’s AFL Draft.
Touted as a late first-round or early second-round pick, Dattoli is a dangerous midfield-forward that models his game on a mix of Lachie Neale and Toby Greene.
Vinny and a young Jesse Dattoli.
AFL Draft hopeful Jesse Dattoli.
Sitting in on Vinny’s pre-game and half-time team talks and post-game reviews for more than a decade has been formative for Jesse.
However, he says its not intense as some might think.
“I’ve obviously spent at lot of time with him when he’s coaching,” Dattoli said of his dad.
“We go back and watch the vision but as I’ve progressed to Northern (Knights) and Vic Metro, he’s not always in the four walls and doesn’t know the structures, so he doesn’t give too much advice.
“We don’t talk about it as much as people think, you get sick of talking about the same topic a lot.
“You’ve got to be super versatile (in today’s game) and sitting in on dad’s reviews has helped a lot.
“Listening to him talking about the wing and half-forward – positions I wasn’t really used to – I felt well-prepared hearing him talk about those roles.”
After guiding Heidelberg to a third successive NFNL Division 1 premiership, Vinny had a simple message for his son.
“The first thing after the grand final, he said to me ‘now it’s your turn’,” Jesse said.
Dattoli says he feels “super prepared” to head into an AFL environment.
Jesse Dattoli in action during the Coates League testing day.
Not only having a successful coach in the family, he’s got plenty of impressive mentors off the field.
Northern Knights coach Anthony Rocca has been a long-time family friend.
Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson – who won a flag under Vinny at Carey Grammar – often train together in Melbourne.
Former Knights teammate Nate Caddy has been an important sounding board for what it takes to transition from under-18s to the AFL.
“I still talk to Nate, I’ve asked him about going from under-18s to AFL level so I can prepare a little bit,” Dattoli said.
“Ant has helped a lot, I’ve known him since I was young and he’s always helped me out and then he took over at Northern.
“He was hard on me but that’s what I’m used to, especially having my dad be my dad.
“Matt Rowell comes back to Melbourne every now and then and we do some training, Luke Boyd has been massive organising my strength and conditioning, which has helped me drop my 2km by 27 seconds.”
Dattoli was a key member of Vic Metro’s Under-18 National Championships winning squad, averaging 15 disposals and seven marks and kicking three goals in four matches.
He averaged 23 possessions, four clearances and kicked 12 goals in seven Coates League games for Northern.
AFL Draft expert Kevin Sheehan has compared him to Hawthorn’s Dylan Moore.
“A crafty small forward-midfielder who can mark well overhead for his size and excel in big moments for his team,” Sheehan said.
The Ivanhoe junior is a Collingwood supporter and has spoken to every club ahead of Thursday’s first round.
Dattoli would love to hear his name called on the first night, with projections suggesting Richmond or GWS Giants in the picks 19-25 range, and he is more than comfortable heading interstate.
“It’s a bit different for me with my sister playing tennis see spends a lot of time away from home with my mum so I’m pretty independent,” he said.
“A lot of the messages have been super positive from the clubs but once you get to the pointy end they don’t give much information.
“It’s more about how you feel coming to us and how you fit into their environment.”
This bloke looks good. Maybe a rookie pick.
If I ask for it, Are you able to give yourself a 2 week suspension?
If this is the case are we better to trade pick 6+18 to get pick 2?
Lalor + one of FOS/Jagga/Langford and then should be able to get some combo of Allen/Reid/Travaglia/Lindsay/Berry (maybe Tauru/Smillie) at 10+11.
Do we rate Smillie alongside the other 4 mids or he he just the best of what's left?
If I were the North recruiting manager, and serious about splitting pick 2, I'd be making damn sure everyone thought I was taking the star mid they desperately want, and not the precocious tall I actually prefer.
Still think there's something to play out here.
Still think there's something to play out here.
I would guess that this might be something like:Big rumour doing the rounds is a 3 way pick trade with us the Eagles and bombers
Not sure of the exact picksbut heard a few different people mentioned it
Essendon give F1, 28. Get 12
WCE give 12 Get 18, 28
Rich give 18 Get F1
Not bad as it would get us a future pick that would probably be top 10 (whether it be Melbourne’s or Essendon’s own) for a pick that will be at least 21 after bids.
Given we wouldn't trade to 2 to get him (or a better player), I'd say he's in the same group.
thanks Btoz. that looks much better. not sure in all the snipets they put up, its mostly just marks and goals. cheers mate.
Not that we know for sure and we can only go of Twomey etc however the one thing that appears agreed on with the recruiters is that Tauru is the clear best tall with the most potential , Is pick 6 a fair price to pay ? Is he going to be a better footballer than Smillie or Allen ? Tough call coming up for Blair , no doubt every pick is important , however our 2nd pick is not only about us getting best available it will also have a big say on who becomes available for us through our next few picks .
FWIW ( nothing
) Think I’m now leaning pick 1 Lalor , again wouldn’t be unhappy with Fos or Smith , pick 6 or the roundabout pick , let’s go Tauru lock in the best KPP and not have to pick KPP with big queries ( general consensus) , then we hope Smillie or Allen gets to our next pick , unlikely if they both do that’s an easy next 2 selections if 1 does , I think Reid has so many positives and credits and he picks himself ( not sure why I’m not convinced on him) , Berry I think is one of those players who may not be a star , however he will be one of the best going round in the role he plays , that’s why I have him fir us just in front of Lindsay who looks very good as a 3rd -5th mid.
Again not that fussed who we actually pick as I’ll be happy with any of them for atleast a couple of years , in saying that I’d like to get Dobson , Hannaford , Oliver in our later picks , Haynes if we don’t get Allen and if Whitlock or Armstrong have got to 20 I’d pull the trigger . Hotton and Trainor have to come into our thoughts after 11
Pick 1 Lalor
Pick 6 Tauru/Smillie
Pick10 Smillie/ Allen
Pick 11 Reid/ Berry
FWIW ( nothing
) Think I’m now leaning pick 1 Lalor , again wouldn’t be unhappy with Fos or Smith , pick 6 or the roundabout pick , let’s go Tauru lock in the best KPP and not have to pick KPP with big queries ( general consensus) , then we hope Smillie or Allen gets to our next pick , unlikely if they both do that’s an easy next 2 selections if 1 does , I think Reid has so many positives and credits and he picks himself ( not sure why I’m not convinced on him) , Berry I think is one of those players who may not be a star , however he will be one of the best going round in the role he plays , that’s why I have him fir us just in front of Lindsay who looks very good as a 3rd -5th mid.Again not that fussed who we actually pick as I’ll be happy with any of them for atleast a couple of years , in saying that I’d like to get Dobson , Hannaford , Oliver in our later picks , Haynes if we don’t get Allen and if Whitlock or Armstrong have got to 20 I’d pull the trigger . Hotton and Trainor have to come into our thoughts after 11
Pick 1 Lalor
Pick 6 Tauru/Smillie
Pick10 Smillie/ Allen
Pick 11 Reid/ Berry
Going by Twomey I’d say we now have Allen very close to Smillie , my guess is a week ago we thought we’d get Smillie at 6 and Allen at 10 now it appears Saints and Dees have strong interest in Allen , Twomey speaks as if we think to get both we may have to risk Smillie and take Allen and hope Smillie slides , I’d personally take Smillie
I rate FOS above all the others o so I’d strongly consider it , however sounds like we have the 4 or 5 mids all very closely rated , Smillie included ….bloody tough gig for BH i reckon Mantikorr
I think Smillie is a very good chance to slide to 10, St Kilda already have a one paced midfield, hard to see them adding to that.
I still get the feeling that this whole draft may get thrown on it's head with one club doing the unexpected.
I'm not convinced North aren't selecting Tauru at 2
I'm not convinced North aren't selecting Tauru at 2
Makes sense. I'd do it personally.
Probably makes sense for West Coast too, if its true that they were linked with both Allan and Travaglia who are both rumoured to be off the board by the time their pick comes along.
You'd guess Essendon would be after Shanahan with that pick.
Dental. Love it, ts. And it might stick. I hope we do the trade just so we can call him Dennil fawss. But Norfs more likely to go with Sully. And may earn the privilege, goddammit. Crazy Clarko is some nickname genius. Who could guess but Sully, yeah.
North have been waxing lyrical about Tauru, I'm predicting multiple trades and plenty of left field picks.
Again mainly due to Twomey and other darft watchers that have had info from the recruiters , it’s pretty much unanimous on the top 5 midfielders, though exact orders vary mainly due to the type of midfielder they prefer it’s the same 5 and all rated as the best 5 footballers , this is my biggest worry on the talls in this draft ,outside of Tauru it appears there’s a clear next 5 , however they appear to have a great variety in ranking by the recruiters and to me that says they’ve all got a worrying fault , yes could end up champions , however when it’s not just one or two recruiters seeing issues it means there are issues to me , again I’m happy to go with whatever Blair does , just thinking this may not be the draft to fill our KPP holes on the list and taking 2 at the most maybe the safe bet .
We do have a couple of talent young talls on the list who could well feel the voids, I,e Gibcus, Fawcett, Gray, Blight Bauer etc
We do have a couple of talent young talls on the list who could well feel the voids, I,e Gibcus, Fawcett, Gray, Blight Bauer etc
If he's half as good as him even quarter that's enough no need to be the next Dustyi have an uneasy caution for Sam Lalor as pick 1.
Having followed the Tigers for 60+ years, we have only had one Dustin Martin . ( don't argues et al).
To me the odds of replacing said Dustin Martin, within one season of him retiring, with a like for like seems an incredibly long shot.
I know nothing about Sam and hope he's a star, but for me lightning really would have to strike twice.
