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2024 Draft Thread
- Thread starter Mr T.
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Great to see both Fawcett and Colina on the track for first session of preseason
Smiling Josh I have a feel will be right in the frame at 6 , having a look at how comfortable he plays forward to go along with his ability to find teammates in better position with his great vision and hands , certainly dosent mind wearing one to create space , and also balances up well to deliver low penetrating kicks . I understand people’s queries on him , however I think I may have undersold him , as long as he’s committed and continues to learn to use that huge frame I think he’ll be a beauty .
Gut feel Saints get him
Gut feel Saints get him
How do you know when you're not taking the player who's best available and how'd you know they're reaching?Just had a look at top 10 talls drafted between 2010 and 2020 . Excluding father sons , only went to 2020 as in fairness talls generally take a while .
2010 3 Day, 10 Gorridge
2011 1 Patton, 8 Longer
2012, Jaksch was first at 11
2013 1 Boyd
2014 1 McCartin, 6 Marchbank, Wright
2015 1 Weitering, 2 Schache, 6 Francis, 8 Weidemann, 10 McKay
2016 zilch
2017 9 Naughton
2018 2 Lukocious, 4 King , 6 Ki
2019 3 Jackson, 6 McCasey
2020 1 JUH, Thilthorpe, McDonald, Granger Barass , 8 Cox , 10 Reid
I count 1 superstar , 8 good to very good players out of 26 , that’s a poor strike rate in my eyes and a lot of wasted picks for a variety of reasons
Yes talls are important , however taking a tall for the sake of taking a tall is fraught with more danger then a midfielder, flanker or small , I don’t buy the argument of we have 8 picks atleast 2 have to be talls , yep great if those talls turn out to be very good talls , we need to ad quality at every pick , which most likely playing the averages we won’t a couple won’t make it , which makes it all the more important to pick best available, this is the method the best clubs go with , they ad via trade or draft for needs once they are in the window .
Ideal world we would walk away with 4 quality mids who can play forward or back, a key forward, a key back , a ruck and a gun goal kicking small forward , however we just have to go best available at each pick and hope they all turn out stars .
I rest my case
By your logic, it's OK to take the tall if they're the next best player.
So how did we pick Reiwoldt? Best available or reach?
I'm sure you were the person who told me we were choosing between Selwood and Rance and went Rance. In that situation we must have had them roughly even, and went the need option.
The risk with talls is they've usually not developed/grown into their body as well as the mids have, so there's bigger risk.
But the risk of not drafting them, is when you make a play for Ben King and Himmelberg and end up with Koschitzke and Bauer.
I rest my case.
As I’ve said earlier , like most clubs we have a list rating players from 1 to 1000 , we put a line through players as they are selected and then take our next highest rated player , nothing to do with reaching . Its all part of the list management and recruiting “ best available “ again we don’t have any part of the list covered well , more then ever we simply need quality , if that happens to be talls so be it , very happy to back Blair and his 3 time Premiership theory in here or Stephen Wells and his amazing run of having his team play finals by choosing best available.
The way the club “ drafted” in 2007 compared to now is very different .
I feel like he’s going to turn into a good afl player as well. I think we’re keen but it does have the feel saints will get himSmiling Josh I have a feel will be right in the frame at 6 , having a look at how comfortable he plays forward to go along with his ability to find teammates in better position with his great vision and hands , certainly dosent mind wearing one to create space , and also balances up well to deliver low penetrating kicks . I understand people’s queries on him , however I think I may have undersold him , as long as he’s committed and continues to learn to use that huge frame I think he’ll be a beauty .
Gut feel Saints get him
Joe the Goose n Hapless
Tommy Hawk n Jizza
Riewoldt n Lynchman
Darling n Kennedy
Flanklin n Roughy
Brown n Lynch
Some mighty fine premiership forward combo's during the last 20 odd years.
Yablettttt n Billy didn't quite get a flag but still a quality forward combo.
Piggy n the Kid.
Ya need premium forwards just as much as ya need premium mids, especially if you're hoping to hit up more than once.
Tauru has the ability to float across a pack and hit the ball at its highest while using his knees to hover, just as he takes the mark. You can’t teach that. Almost impossible to practise that. Almost impossible to defend. By his age you can either do it or you can’t. You either have the confidence to try to do it or you don’t..
No other frailties or weaknesses. Will be a great acquisition wherever he plays.
If available take at 6.
Not to mention Tauru is a november birthdate and said to be now 195cm so alot more growth
Its his kicking i dont like but his athletic ability and upside is great. Would be a good get at 10/11
But i would be taking Jagga / Smillie before Tauru
His set shot kicking looks way better than Naughton and that's always been considered a successful transition.
From the look of those selections it's obvious most of those big blokes were taken far to early in the draft n hence have struggled to match their ratings. Fortunately for us we have a massive 8 selections in this years draft so we can safely fill our boots with quality mid sized players with our first 4 or 5 picks and then have a rummage around in the big bloke basket with our spare end of first round picks. If we hit up on 1 gun n 1 handy KPP with our end of first round talls then we're laughing n if we've messed them up, it was with our later picks and we've still covered our midfield with a bunch of best available.
Even if that's true what does that mean. Don't pick talls in the draft? Only pick talls late in the draft (and fight even worse odds). We can load up on mids and flankers sure. But with 8 early picks we must select at least two talls.
It doesn't really tell us anything other than we have 8 list spots that are vacant, whether that is 8 in the ND, or 7 and 1 in the RD, who knows, but it probably indicates that we won't use the SSP this year.
Some do and some don’t, players develop differently. They develop AFL bodies at different rates and they develop the maturity and mindset for AFL footy at different rates.
