2024 Draft Thread

[momentai]

What are you talking about?

What are you?
We have a number of inexperienced tall forwards on our list that include Gray and Lefau.
We will hopefully be adding a couple more. All are relatively new or unproven.
Rookies.
I am with you on paying overs for established forwards. Best to develop our own.

 

[bullus_hit]

That’s why this bloke has produced a Dynasty .

Taking a tall just because his tall in front of an elite small forward or classy wingman is ludicrous, yep we need better players all over the ground , however imho Blair has it correct take best at each crucial pick we have , if it happens to have 4 talls and 4 mids so be it , this is only stage one of a minimum 4 to 5 year draft rebuild , meaning bulk of our best players will be 20 to 24 when we are contending again , absolutely best available at each pick for many selections to come

Given we have a list with more holes than Swiss cheese we can afford to do that although I would baulk at something like Jack Whitlock versus Berry and take the tall offer. Granted, Berry is the best medium forward in the pool and Whitlock in a very even group of talls but you cannot keep kicking the can down the road when it comes to key position prospects.

 

[BrisTiger24]

Seems to be a bit of chat that Norf are moving away from Tauru at 2 and using the pick on a higher rated option, rather than need.

If true, this has big ramifications for who might be available at 6. I've seen this phantom scenario:

Lalor
FOS
Draper
Jagga
Langford

Do we pick Tauru at 6 in this circumstance or do we go for a Smillie, Reid etc?

 

[Berwick boy]

Great then we can start taking about the guys we actually draft. That will be good.

Yeah its funny with all the man love on here for FOS.

Then Carlton pick him up and he becomes "That *smile* Carlton Pr!%& "

 

[bullus_hit]

Seems to be a bit of chat that Norf are moving away from Tauru at 2 and using the pick on a higher rated option, rather than need.

If true, this has big ramifications for who might be available at 6. I've seen this phantom scenario:

Lalor
FOS
Draper
Jagga
Langford

Do we pick Tauru at 6 in this circumstance or do we go for a Smillie, Reid etc?

Tauru!

 

[momentai]

Seems to be a bit of chat that Norf are moving away from Tauru at 2 and using the pick on a higher rated option, rather than need. If true, this has big ramifications for who might be available at 6. I've seen this phantom scenario: Lalor FOS Draper Jagga Langford Do we pick Tauru at 6 in this circumstance or do we go for a Smillie, Reid etc?

U could add Lindsay to that list. Plenty of very good players will be available. Tauru probably the best.

 

[Billy24]

Great then we can start taking about the guys we actually draft. That will be good.

Nah, all the talk will be about who we missed and how the hell did that happen?

 

[Sintiger]

Nah, all the talk will be about who we missed and how the hell did that happen?

“How could we have 8 picks and stuff up every single one ?”

 

[Dyer'ere]

It is such a muddled picture that one surprise choice could have a massive domino effect.

Our picture is muddled, Sin. But we're not at the table. It's knowable, Sin. You just do the contingency planning. Scenarios.

 

[The_General]

What are you?
We have a number of inexperienced tall forwards on our list that include Gray and Lefau.
We will hopefully be adding a couple more. All are relatively new or unproven.
Rookies.
I am with you on paying overs for established forwards. Best to develop our own.

The ambiguity Momentai is your use of the term rookies.
There's rookie listed players which most people refer to as Rookies and any new senior listed draftee as a first year player. Rookie in that sense is more an Americanism. Was hard to understand what your point was.

If you look at the really successful Key Forwards, they very rarely come from Rookie listed or SSP players. So the expectations we'll get a potential 200 game forward from Bauer, Gray, Lefau, etc should be low, let alone ones which might be All Australian or Coleman winners. We can see what happens when a free agent strategy falls through (we're living it right now).
We get one or two of the highly rated types in the door, and get them competing with each other it should set us right.

 

[Sintiger]

It's knowable, Sin.

If I knew what your post meant I would like it ....

 

[bullus_hit]

“How could we have 8 picks and stuff up every single one ?”

Don't tempt fate, there's a few scenarios which fall into the high risk basket.

 

[Dyer'ere]

If I knew what your post meant I would like it ....

I just clarified my reply.

Who will go #1 in this draft, Sin?

 

[Sintiger]

Our picture is muddled, Sin. But we're not at the table. It's knowable, Sin. You just do the contingency planning. Scenarios.

yes I agree. I am just saying the reason so many different players are linked to so many different clubs is because it's the truth, they are linked.
The reason they are linked is because there are so many potential scenarios clubs are having to be ready for almost anything.

 

[Steely Danzig]

Be ironic if we overlooked a bunch of gun mids to draft a bunch of KPFs -like a bunch of Griffs over a bunch of Fyfes- then Farah has a breakout year anyway.

 

[year of the tiger]

Great then we can start taking about the guys we actually draft. didn’t pick. That will be good.

Fixed

 

[bullus_hit]

Be ironic if we overlooked a bunch of gun mids to draft a bunch of KPFs -like a bunch of Griffs over a bunch of Fyfes- then Farah has a breakout year anyway.

It would be even more ironic if we overlook the talls in this draft and they turn out to be AFL mainstays, this is a golden opportunity to get the spine sorted, remembering of course that these blokes will require 4 years of development.

 

[Dyer'ere]

yes I agree. I am just saying the reason so many different players are linked to so many different clubs is because it's the truth, they are linked.
The reason they are linked is because there are so many potential scenarios clubs are having to be ready for almost anything.

Because #2 is not settled it's harder for Twomey to use his usual sources (players and connections) to nail down the selections. Perhaps, because of this instability, and the need for clubs to enquire of a broader range of players than they might usually, perhaps Twomey will not know this year.

In which case the draft order is effectively unknowable to the public. We know Lalor's at #1 because somebody let it out. The players are by no means under an oath of secrecy. They tell Twomey or somebody Twomey has as a connection with. And they tell us sometimes.

It is interesting to see just how close Twomey gets it this year. He hasn't missed many recently. Has the uncertainty over who has what pick muddied the waters even for him that sees beyond the grave - Tombie?

 

[Spirit of Jack]

Yeah its funny with all the man love on here for FOS.

Then Carlton pick him up and he becomes "That *smile* Carlton Pr!%& "

I will put up my hand and say I hate the idea of FOS at Carlton! Probably the most likely scenario though :-(

 

[year of the tiger]

It would be even more ironic if we overlook the talls in this draft and they turn out to be AFL mainstays, this is a golden opportunity to get the spine sorted, remembering of course that these blokes will require 4 years of development.

Yep, with Balta and hopefully Gibcus fit and healthy, with 7 or 8 picks you would hope we fix 2 KPF and the centre position.

If we can realistically fix the 2 key mids and 2 key forwards (gives us a 50% success rate with all our picks) then we have still laid some pretty strong foundations and anything else is a bonus I would have thought.