2024 Draft Thread

[Redford]

There's enough depth in this draft that would ensure I get a second prospect into the equation. Tauru + Sims, Tauru + Mraz, Tauru + Dodson.

Where does the second prospect come from ? If it's not with us, then who is it with that still guarantees Tauru ? It would have to involve St. Kilda at 7 (at a minimum) and then another club. Who ?

As usual with Norf, they are between a rock and a hard place.

 

[bullus_hit]

How do North do that without trading Pick 2?

At worst I take Carlton's offer of 3 & 38. The talent runs deep this year, very solid top 40.

 

[Berwick boy]

Pretty exciting in 5 years time to see who drafted best. Can't wait.

Yep...and its next week.




NEXT WEEK !!

 

[Dyer'ere]

Surely FOS doesn’t get past the top 3.

If North still hold pick 2 on draft night not even Rawlings is stupid enough to not pick FOS or one of the other midfielders at 2.

IMO Tauru won’t get picked until all the highly touted midfielders are gone.

Lalor
Ashcroft
FOS
Langford
Smith
Draper
Smillie

Pick 8 at the earliest for Tauru.

ATM, SA, Norfs still hold #2. And that is a reach for Tauru and they know it. They have a strong card that they can turn into a strong hand. But they haven't sold #2 yet.

Carlton holds pick #3. The Sash told us he had heard from a Carlton board member that CFC wanted FOS. Interesting. Stan recently put it out there that Carlton might be throwing off. And actually after Draper. Draper is very logical to the Blues. Suppose we link Draper to the Blues.

Sin tells us he has scuttlebutt that Adelaide is looking at Langford. Makes sense. They need class. I can link Smith to Adelaide but not bank him. He was certainly of interest. WCE the major suitor is out of the game.

To the extent we can link Melbourne to anybody it's Lindsay. Sure, could be at #9. That's the link though. MFC to Lindsay. Maybe they'll want FOS if he's there. I don't know.

I've put the scenario out there that FOS might be there at #6. That would have been out of the question a couple of weeks ago and probably still is. But the question is out there. Who takes him and where if not Carlton? The answer might be whoever gets #2. Or it might be whoever gets #4, which we've been somewhat linked to.

 

[momentai]

Yep understand, I just reckon they will see it as too big a risk, especially with that 7-15 area of the draft so fluid. There are several players in that top group that are of zero value to them, Jagga, Draper, Smillie, these are all guys that would add very little value to their list, due to the way they have built the list. I think they would want 6, and if someone takes Tauru before them, then they probably trade back again to add picks and get Armstrong and then maybe Whitlock and someone else.

Their strategy this year is all around talls, especially if Leysy is right and they plan to keep LDU.

Jagga would add significantly to Norths list. His speed inside and ability to get it out would be like adding summer to beach.

 

[bullus_hit]

Where does the second prospect come from ? If it's not with us, then who is it with that still guarantees Tauru ? It would have to involve St. Kilda at 7 (at a minimum) and then another club. Who ?

As usual with Norf, they are between a rock and a hard place.

I think you are underestimating North's position, all they need to do is cut a deal with any pick in the first 2 rounds, very doable with pick 2 on the table. I would back myself to land a tall with that second pick, there will be value with any pick inside the top 40.

 

[mrposhman]

At worst I take Carlton's offer of 3 & 38. The talent runs deep this year, very solid top 40.

Why would Carlton do that trade? Whats in it for them? Likely the player they want, doesn't go at 2 to North so why waste a pick.

 

[bullus_hit]

Why would Carlton do that trade? Whats in it for them? Likely the player they want, doesn't go at 2 to North so why waste a pick.

Carlton wants FOS, this maybe the only way to bypass Richmond in the pecking order.

 

[tigersnake]

Why would Carlton do that trade? Whats in it for them? Likely the player they want, doesn't go at 2 to North so why waste a pick.

greater certainty is what's in it for them. Your use of the word 'likely' tells the tale.

 

[Redford]

I think you are underestimating North's position, all they need to do is cut a deal with any pick in the first 2 rounds, very doable with pick 2 on the table. I would back myself to land a tall with that second pick, there will be value with any pick inside the top 40.

With who though ?

 

[mrposhman]

Jagga would add significantly to Norths list. His speed inside and ability to get it out would be like adding summer to beach.

Where does he play for them? Its more that they have a plethora of mids, that he won't play. Look at how they've played Sheezel and McKercher the last 2 years, start off HB because they had so much midfield depth and then move them into the midfield in Year 2, so McKercher gets added to their midfield mix this year, where do the midfield minutes come from for Jagga?

Thats why I don't see them placing any value on him, they would take a mid IMO IF they can play another position so IMO both Lalor and FOS would appeal to them, but a lot of the other mids in that top 6 mix I don't think would. Maybe Langford, but Jagga is a starting mid, he won't play any other role in the AFL so therefore doesn't suit North at all, hence my no value on him for North comment.

The comment wasn't about Jagga at all, more about North. I know what Jagga can provide and I'd love him at Richmond if he lasts to 6. A perfect scenario for us is to keep 6 (or get 7) whilst also adding 2 and taking Lalor, FOS and Jagga.

 

[bullus_hit]

With who though ?

Carlton is the baseline deal & I reckon it might be the option for Rawlings if things break down with Richmond. The Blues moved up the order to grab a pacy midfielder, O'Sullivan is their primary target.

 

[Redford]

Where does he play for them? Its more that they have a plethora of mids, that he won't play. Look at how they've played Sheezel and McKercher the last 2 years, start off HB because they had so much midfield depth and then move them into the midfield in Year 2, so McKercher gets added to their midfield mix this year, where do the midfield minutes come from for Jagga?

Thats why I don't see them placing any value on him, they would take a mid IMO IF they can play another position so IMO both Lalor and FOS would appeal to them, but a lot of the other mids in that top 6 mix I don't think would. Maybe Langford, but Jagga is a starting mid, he won't play any other role in the AFL so therefore doesn't suit North at all, hence my no value on him for North comment.

The comment wasn't about Jagga at all, more about North. I know what Jagga can provide and I'd love him at Richmond if he lasts to 6. A perfect scenario for us is to keep 6 (or get 7) whilst also adding 2 and taking Lalor, FOS and Jagga.

Lindsay is the perfect fit for them. They can take him at 11 and one of Faull, Whitlock, Shanahan, Sims if they like him enough at 18.

Lindsay could seamlessly fit into that clearing HBF role that Sheezel has performed and accelerate Sheezel's move into the midfield - something that Clarkson said during the year that they were keen to do. A Lindsay-Faull combo looks perfect to me for Norf. But then again I'm not Rawlings.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Richmond would be mad to pick Smillie or Draper ahead of Tauru.

Agree. And I would be staggered if f that happened. Our first 2 picks and possibly first 3 picks will be mids.

The back to back picks of 10 & 11 give us so much flexibility on what we do there.

 

[tigertime2]

Blair is on record that we will take best available, regardless of list needs.

 

[Smoking Aces]

ATM, SA, Norfs still hold #2. And that is a reach for Tauru and they know it. They have a strong card that they can turn into a strong hand. But they haven't sold #2 yet.

Carlton holds pick #3. The Sash told us he had heard from a Carlton board member that CFC wanted FOS. Interesting. Stan recently put it out there that Carlton might be throwing off. And actually after Draper. Draper is very logical to the Blues. Suppose we link Draper to the Blues.

Sin tells us he has scuttlebutt that Adelaide is looking at Langford. Makes sense. They need class. I can link Smith to Adelaide but not bank him. He was certainly of interest. WCE the major suitor is out of the game.

To the extent we can link Melbourne to anybody it's Lindsay. Sure, could be at #9. That's the link though. MFC to Lindsay. Maybe they'll want FOS if he's there. I don't know.

I've put the scenario out there that FOS might be there at #6. That would have been out of the question a couple of weeks ago and probably still is. But the question is out there. Who takes him and where if not Carlton? The answer might be whoever gets #2. Or it might be whoever gets #4, which we've been somewhat linked to.

I think clubs are thinking FOS doesn’t get past pick 2.

Hence the rumours about Langford to Adelaide and Draper to Carlton. They don’t think FOS will be there. Not even at clubland do they think North will be that stupid to overlook FOS at 2.

But the cat will be thrown amongst the pigeons if North do they ultimate stupidity and overlook FOS for Tauru at 2.

Or maybe they all know pick 2 is coming our way and we take FOS.

But also don’t discount us to take Langford at 2. I think it’s an even money bet on whether we take FOS or Langford.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Blair is on record that we will take best available, regardless of list needs.

That’s why this bloke has produced a Dynasty .

Taking a tall just because his tall in front of an elite small forward or classy wingman is ludicrous, yep we need better players all over the ground , however imho Blair has it correct take best at each crucial pick we have , if it happens to have 4 talls and 4 mids so be it , this is only stage one of a minimum 4 to 5 year draft rebuild , meaning bulk of our best players will be 20 to 24 when we are contending again , absolutely best available at each pick for many selections to come

 

[momentai]

Where does he play for them? Its more that they have a plethora of mids, that he won't play. Look at how they've played Sheezel and McKercher the last 2 years, start off HB because they had so much midfield depth and then move them into the midfield in Year 2, so McKercher gets added to their midfield mix this year, where do the midfield minutes come from for Jagga?

Thats why I don't see them placing any value on him, they would take a mid IMO IF they can play another position so IMO both Lalor and FOS would appeal to them, but a lot of the other mids in that top 6 mix I don't think would. Maybe Langford, but Jagga is a starting mid, he won't play any other role in the AFL so therefore doesn't suit North at all, hence my no value on him for North comment.

The comment wasn't about Jagga at all, more about North. I know what Jagga can provide and I'd love him at Richmond if he lasts to 6. A perfect scenario for us is to keep 6 (or get 7) whilst also adding 2 and taking Lalor, FOS and Jagga.

Disagree on Jagga. As one of 3 mids at any one time, he would make better and more effective, the players around him. And as he grows over the next 5-10 years can see him reaching Edwards levels. Provided they can keep their mids together that will put them past (well at least very near to) what we had and were the basis of our 3 flags.
(I would also love him at 6 but would prefer Tauru by a short head).

 

[Tigers of Old]

Yep...and its next week.




NEXT WEEK !!

Great then we can start taking about the guys we actually draft. That will be good.

 

[Sintiger]

ATM, SA, Norfs still hold #2. And that is a reach for Tauru and they know it. They have a strong card that they can turn into a strong hand. But they haven't sold #2 yet.

Carlton holds pick #3. The Sash told us he had heard from a Carlton board member that CFC wanted FOS. Interesting. Stan recently put it out there that Carlton might be throwing off. And actually after Draper. Draper is very logical to the Blues. Suppose we link Draper to the Blues.

Sin tells us he has scuttlebutt that Adelaide is looking at Langford. Makes sense. They need class. I can link Smith to Adelaide but not bank him. He was certainly of interest. WCE the major suitor is out of the game.

To the extent we can link Melbourne to anybody it's Lindsay. Sure, could be at #9. That's the link though. MFC to Lindsay. Maybe they'll want FOS if he's there. I don't know.

I've put the scenario out there that FOS might be there at #6. That would have been out of the question a couple of weeks ago and probably still is. But the question is out there. Who takes him and where if not Carlton? The answer might be whoever gets #2. Or it might be whoever gets #4, which we've been somewhat linked to.

I reckon these "links" come about because there are so many scenarios Jack.

If a club has a pick in the first 7-8 they aren't going to be talking to one player they are going to talking to multiple players and that's where all the scuttlebutt starts imo. It is quite possible that Carlton have spoke to FOS, Lalor, Draper, Smith and Langford more than once because there is no guarantee who will be there at 3, they don't even know who has the pick before them yet. Same with Adelaide, Melbourne, even St Kilda.

It is such a muddled picture that one surprise choice could have a massive domino effect.