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2024 Draft Thread

Don’t forget Fawcett.
Showed enough to suggest he’s got untapped ability.
Wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if he cracks a seniors birth at some stage next year, dependent on getting a solid preseason under his belt.
Looks a natural forward to me

With all this draft pick euphoria what has crept up on me is that the 1-4 year listed players are back training tomorrow:love:, the Tap, Lynch & Bauer need full pre-seasons and the pudding needs to come back day 1 remotely fit.
 
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Speaking of training, I've noticed a bunch of other clubs have had big chunks of guys training hard the last 4-5 weeks. Presumably of their own choice. Particularly Freo who look ripped.

Have any of our guys been doing anything ? Haven't seen anything in any social media feeds or anything.
 
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Speaking of training, I've noticed a bunch of other clubs have had big chunks of guys training hard the last 4-5 weeks. Presumably of their own choice. Particularly Freo who look ripped.

Have any of our guys been doing anything ? Haven't seen anything in any social media feeds or anything.
Clearly training for the 2025 pick 1
 
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Speaking of training, I've noticed a bunch of other clubs have had big chunks of guys training hard the last 4-5 weeks. Presumably of their own choice. Particularly Freo who look ripped.

Have any of our guys been doing anything ? Haven't seen anything in any social media feeds or anything.

Man Pool GIF

Here’s exclusive footage of some of our players training hard before preseason training really begins
 
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I was curious how Jagga stacks up against number one picks (and first mid picked pick W.A) from the last few years in the state leagues so did some research. Couldn't find average clearances on the VFL site so not there unless I found an alternative source. Feel free to help if anyone wants, I also included Sid Draper as a comparison to Jason HF. I really like Draper..Really.

Anyway, I really like Jagga too and think he gets a raw deal around here.

2021
Horne-Francis
SANFL - Average - 16 disposals, four marks, four tackles, three clearances and a tick under a goal per game in 20 matches.

Comparison

Sid Draper SANFL 2024
Average - 22 disposals, 2.2 marks, 6.2 Tackles, Clearances 4.7, Goals .3, games 6

2022

Will Ashcroft
Average -27 disposals, 3.3marks, 5.3 Tackles, Clearances- can’t find, games 3

2023
Harley Reid
Average - 19 disposals, 6 marks, 5.3 Tackles, Clearances- 2 in his first game, Goals .1, games 3

2024
Jagga Smith
Average - 25.5 disposals, .3 marks, 2 Tackles, Clearances- 6.3, Goals 0, score involvements - 4.7, games 2 (1 in *smile* weather)
ESPN has us taking Smillie at 7 over Jagga with both still on the board. No way I would be doing that. Lalor and Jagga at 1 and 7 I would think Christmas had come early.
 
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I don’t mind Jagga at 6 but if North pass on Tauru I think they might take Jagga at 2, who would compliment their midfield nicely.

If both Tauru and Jagga are there at 6…
Great but for us, not an easy choice.
If we take Lalor and Norf take Tauru, the Blues are sitting pretty having the choice of FOS or Smith who for most of the season the majority of people have had as their number one pick !! That will hurt if it pans out that way.
 
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Read an article about him and the crows and whether they pick him.

If they pick him and he is a bust they probably get away with it because it is conventional wisdom to pick a local boy. If they don’t pick him and he is a bust they are geniuses. If they don’t pick him and he is a star they get sacked !!
Imho he’s a bit like Langford and Smith sin , in his a bit underrated on here, we seem to be looking at those lads “ faults” rather then their strengths , I’d have him right beside Langford and Smith as safe bet 150 gamers
 
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If we take Lalor and Norf take Tauru, the Blues are sitting pretty having the choice of FOS or Smith who for most of the season the majority of people have had as their number one pick !! That will hurt if it pans out that way.
Simple solution Lolnorf agree to a pick trade for pick 2
 
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With all this draft pick euphoria what has crept up on me is that the 1-4 year listed players are back training tomorrow:love:, the Tap, Lynch & Bauer need full pre-seasons and the pudding needs to come back day 1 remotely fit.
If we knew Bauer and the Tap would have great pre seasons that would certainly help the decision process on a couple of talls come draft night . In saying that one or two ( maybe twins 😎) picked up future talls wouldn’t be the worst thing
 
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I’ve got no idea where he ends up going Mr B. I think he has some very damaging traits that he’s demonstrated at every level so far. Tackle numbers are very good which says a lot too.
A starting midfield with 2 strong bodied ball winning clearance players who hit hard and stick tackles would be a fairly handy start to the rebuild you’d think fb
 
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What about Sid Draper? He would be a decent pick at number one. Do we not speak about him because he’s south Australian? Great break away pace at clearances.

And…4.7 clearances average- 2nd only to jagga in the stats I could find
Like Donut and FOS, Draper had an injury interrupted year, fb. Shin fractures. He had either one? or zero? hitouts before the Championships and was massively underdone. He was visibly sucking air first up against the Allies. And probably about square with Langford second up. Was held by Allan third up. And quiet by his standards against Metro.

Draper's 2023 carnival was better than his 2024 carnival. It's possible that he got more attention in 2024. We know he did. But it's most likely that Sid Draper's form at state level was hampered by his being underdone coming back from injury.

Draper played the back end of the season at SANFL senior level. Overall SANFL level is probably stronger than all but the top end of VFL level. South Adelaide are totes sheiser too BTW.

Draper's SANFL senior form was pretty good. But he didn't set the world on fire. He didn't get Levi Ashcroft numbers (35, 12Cl, 1G) but he was racing in stronger company than Ashcroft did that day. And yes, Draper looked scrappy at times. But he was carrying a lot of responsibility on his just 18yo shoulders while he tried to level up.

Balancing Draper's form is hard. How much was he hampered all year by the shin interruption? Was his SANFL form actually better than anybody's VFL form because he was carrying more responsibility in a stronger grade? Was he having some composure issues because he wasn't fully fit? Because he was levelling up a grade? Was he having confidence issues? Or will he always have composure issues?

I'm a huge Draper fan, fb. My queries are on his move from inside to outside. Fluency. How he gets from winning at the fall to outside the traffic. He's either inside and he's good at that or he's outside and he's good at that at U18 level. Getting outside from the fall. He is quick enough to explode out of packs. But doesn't do it much. That's the missing link atm. A lack of fluency. If he's busting out of packs at Championships level this year he goes #1 in this draft. It's a limitation not a weakness.

I do see pots occasionally on his decision making. I have seen him knock eyes out sending the ball in, even under pressure. But at this stage there is not much genius evident in his hands.

And he doesn't kick a lot of goals. He's not a natural there. He'll kick em if he plays HFF but will usually lay it off.

Lalor and FOS had injury interrupted seasons, perhaps more so than Draper. But they didn't get 27 in the SANFL seniors. Draper's SANFL form puts him very near the frame for #1 IMO.
 
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Just had a squiz at the Hannaford kid , looks a good all round footballer to me , tough , sticks tackles , decent skills , not great on the left but can use it , clean enough in tight , not sure if he’s that elite starting midfield clean though, also appears to be a good athlete with out been A grade at anything , to me he has the potential to be that type of B grade 4th 5th mid in a good side that you need and not just a bloody pigeon holed flanker type.

This is the type I’d be happy with late in our picks when we have to weigh up whether we start looking at other needs I.e talls , remembering we have needs in every area of the ground ….mids are the priority with best available a must
 
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Just had a squiz at the Hannaford kid , looks a good all round footballer to me , tough , sticks tackles , decent skills , not great on the left but can use it , clean enough in tight , not sure if he’s that elite starting midfield clean though, also appears to be a good athlete with out been A grade at anything , to me he has the potential to be that type of B grade 4th 5th mid in a good side that you need and not just a bloody pigeon hold flanker type.

This is the type I’d be happy with late in our picks when we have to weigh up whether we start looking at other needs I.e talls , remembering we have needs in every area of the ground ….mids are the priority with best available a must

I may be in the minority but I would take Hannaford, early, very early, like Pick 10/11 early

Reckon he is gone by Pick 18, and even though he tested poorly for endurance, the eye test tells me something very different

He is proper tough combative, quick, ballistic, goal kicker who competes, he plays alot like Papley and for me who be a dynamic small forward we should be all over.

Had an incredible back half of the year, was the best player for his team in the finals

Plays for the same team as Lalor, so would be nice to bring them through together, as well as Jonty Faull with a pick in the 20s
 
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Just had a squiz at the Hannaford kid , looks a good all round footballer to me , tough , sticks tackles , decent skills , not great on the left but can use it , clean enough in tight , not sure if he’s that elite starting midfield clean though, also appears to be a good athlete with out been A grade at anything , to me he has the potential to be that type of B grade 4th 5th mid in a good side that you need and not just a bloody pigeon holed flanker type.

This is the type I’d be happy with late in our picks when we have to weigh up whether we start looking at other needs I.e talls , remembering we have needs in every area of the ground ….mids are the priority with best available a must
Agree with most of that, except the A grade bit. I think his goal kicking is close to A grade, and his touch finding the bouncing ball.
 
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