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Redford said:
Just one other thing on Hotton, he did his knee at training, just simply making a change of direction. A complete rupture. Not partial. That's not good.

As someone who has done 2 ACL's and had countless surgeries, MRI's, consults -all with the big name AFL surgeons and with my doctor as well who is a 12 year head doctor at a large AFL club (and sat in on some of my surgeries) - I can tell you that doing your knee that way is a worse way than getting a knock or someone falling across your leg. The reason being that suspicions start to rise that there is some sort of natural laxity in the joint v a blunt force causing the injury ie unlucky.

And I use the word "suspicions" because surgeons ultimately can not tell. MRI's and scopes will only look at the structure of things. You can't test or investigate for full load stress through your knee in the operating theatre or in the surgeons office. Only the individual themselves can do that, and even then, it's got to be over time and with repetition.

Every surgeon or specialist will tell you they did a perfect job and that structurally everything looks great. But not one of them will guarantee that you won't do it again or even that you are of minimal risk of doing it again. In fact, just 12 months ago my current surgeon (guy who is seen as the man by AFL clubs currently) said the knee is very complex and vague in many respects. Even MRI's only pick up structurally complete evaluations about 80% of the time. I've been victim of that - endless MRI's that show nothing, only to have a scope that pulls out multiple bone and cartilage fragments.

The good news for Hotton though, is that he did not damage his MCL or meniscus. That's good. Also good (perhaps) is that his revision surgery was for removal of excess scar tissue which indicates solid healing. Again, I've had that same excess scar tissue removed. It's a painful annoyance, but good in the sense of healed repair work.

But nobody...nobody... should expect any specialist can guarantee or even say that there's little chance of further issues. They can only talk to the structure of things.
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Slightly off topic but Gibcus will be an interesting watch next year on how he recovers.
 
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Dyer'ere said:
I think we've all seen how just by changing our avatars we can make a difference. It's like holding hands and singing that Green Day song.

With that in mind I'm handing out free Poirot avatars. Thank me with your positive energy and remembering the name of that Green Day song.

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That last one's really *smile* but it's free. La la la la la Green Day. Feel the energy?
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Green day is that anything to do with stupid Green party politicians
 
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Smoking Aces said:
I would love to know how legit this bloke is. Like you say, he is just so vague in what he says. Bigfooty have fallen in love with him.
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Don't know why , he hasent got any inside mail
So to me he's like anyone else who has opinions on players.
 
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Steely Danzig said:
The next Robbie McGhie?

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Now that's a man who smokes, SD!
 
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Smoking Aces said:
I would love to know how legit this bloke is. Like you say, he is just so vague in what he says. Bigfooty have fallen in love with him.
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When I read it again Smoking maybe there is a message but perhaps not the one he is putting forward.

If based on our deliberations on pick trading it looks like we may end up with a later pick we may be interviewing players we hadn't spoken to before based on having pick 24 as our last.
 
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Redford said:
Just one other thing on Hotton, he did his knee at training, just simply making a change of direction. A complete rupture. Not partial. That's not good.

As someone who has done 2 ACL's and had countless surgeries, MRI's, consults -all with the big name AFL surgeons and with my doctor as well who is a 12 year head doctor at a large AFL club (and sat in on some of my surgeries) - I can tell you that doing your knee that way is a worse way than getting a knock or someone falling across your leg. The reason being that suspicions start to rise that there is some sort of natural laxity in the joint v a blunt force causing the injury ie unlucky.

And I use the word "suspicions" because surgeons ultimately can not tell. MRI's and scopes will only look at the structure of things. You can't test or investigate for full load stress through your knee in the operating theatre or in the surgeons office. Only the individual themselves can do that, and even then, it's got to be over time and with repetition.

Every surgeon or specialist will tell you they did a perfect job and that structurally everything looks great. But not one of them will guarantee that you won't do it again or even that you are of minimal risk of doing it again. In fact, just 12 months ago my current surgeon (guy who is seen as the man by AFL clubs currently) said the knee is very complex and vague in many respects. Even MRI's only pick up structurally complete evaluations about 80% of the time. I've been victim of that - endless MRI's that show nothing, only to have a scope that pulls out multiple bone and cartilage fragments.

The good news for Hotton though, is that he did not damage his MCL or meniscus. That's good. Also good (perhaps) is that his revision surgery was for removal of excess scar tissue which indicates solid healing. Again, I've had that same excess scar tissue removed. It's a painful annoyance, but good in the sense of healed repair work.

But nobody...nobody... should expect any specialist can guarantee or even say that there's little chance of further issues. They can only talk to the structure of things.
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His brother was very injury prone at St Kilda too ido believe could it run in the familiar 🤔??
 
yeahnomaybe said:
His brother was very injury prone at St Kilda too ido believe could it run in the familiar 🤔??
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Just had a quick peep at his bio on the St Kiddenme web site. Drafted pick 35 in 2022 n never played a senior game, now been delisted I think. Certainly didn't get much of a look at a career.
 
tigertim said:
That’s the M.O of a lot of these trade/draft wannabe gurus, make a hundred predictions and claim success on the one they got right or make vague predictions and contour a result where they can claim success. They’re like a $2 sideshow clairvoyant.
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I believe he trusts sources when they say it's a remote possibility at best. It's more unlikely than likely. But a remote possibility isn't an impossibility, otherwise the parties involved would say so.
 
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