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2024 Draft Thread

Redford said:
Just one other thing on Hotton, he did his knee at training, just simply making a change of direction. A complete rupture. Not partial. That's not good.

As someone who has done 2 ACL's and had countless surgeries, MRI's, consults -all with the big name AFL surgeons and with my doctor as well who is a 12 year head doctor at a large AFL club (and sat in on some of my surgeries) - I can tell you that doing your knee that way is a worse way than getting a knock or someone falling across your leg. The reason being that suspicions start to rise that there is some sort of natural laxity in the joint v a blunt force causing the injury ie unlucky.

And I use the word "suspicions" because surgeons ultimately can not tell. MRI's and scopes will only look at the structure of things. You can't test or investigate for full load stress through your knee in the operating theatre or in the surgeons office. Only the individual themselves can do that, and even then, it's got to be over time and with repetition.

Every surgeon or specialist will tell you they did a perfect job and that structurally everything looks great. But not one of them will guarantee that you won't do it again or even that you are of minimal risk of doing it again. In fact, just 12 months ago my current surgeon (guy who is seen as the man by AFL clubs currently) said the knee is very complex and vague in many respects. Even MRI's only pick up structurally complete evaluations about 80% of the time. I've been victim of that - endless MRI's that show nothing, only to have a scope that pulls out multiple bone and cartilage fragments.

The good news for Hotton though, is that he did not damage his MCL or meniscus. That's good. Also good (perhaps) is that his revision surgery was for removal of excess scar tissue which indicates solid healing. Again, I've had that same excess scar tissue removed. It's a painful annoyance, but good in the sense of healed repair work.

But nobody...nobody... should expect any specialist can guarantee or even say that there's little chance of further issues. They can only talk to the structure of things.
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Having done 3 ACLs myself, all through change of direction, I would agree.

Having said that I did my first at 21, and had 10 years of two games of soccer a week in between the first and second, so you never know.

Side not, after looking at how ACL injuries are being treated in other parts of the world, I'm now running around playing indoor without an intact ACL in either knee (after some pretty specific strengthening work), so I reckon the whole perspective on what an ACL injury/recovery looks like will change.

On Hotton though, not in the first round of the draft. Too big a risk.
 
Sintiger said:
Jasper Alger
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Yeah Cameron Hicks reckons we are using one of our picks in the 20s on him. I haven't looked into him, but his stats for a small defender are incredibly unimpressive over a large body of work... Does anyone know what this kid has that the stats don't show?
 
Spirit of Jack said:
Yeah Cameron Hicks reckons we are using one of our picks in the 20s on him. I haven't looked into him, but his stats for a small defender are incredibly unimpressive over a large body of work... Does anyone know what this kid has that the stats don't show?
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I thought he was a small forward?
 
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Spirit of Jack said:
Yeah Cameron Hicks reckons we are using one of our picks in the 20s on him. I haven't looked into him, but his stats for a small defender are incredibly unimpressive over a large body of work... Does anyone know what this kid has that the stats don't show?
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He's strange.

He's a slight build, doesn't look that quick playing but tested ok at the Combine, not a lot of power or tricks.

However, he's one of those annoying mid size forwards that somehow just keeps popping up in games and kicking a goal or two. Pretty smart.

Dunno if I'd use a pick in the 20's on him though. Always thought he was 3rd round to rookie sort of level. Maybe he's seen as having a lot of development potential ? Who knows.
 
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AstuteTiger said:
Yeah he probably got that from The Age
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I posted a while ago that I know through someone that we have definitely spoken to him. That may not mean a lot because we would have spoken to lots of players but my immediate thought was that we needed to rank most players through the whole draft given that it is possible we may end up with a later pick through pick swaps.
Since then he has popped up in a couple of phantoms and in Cal Twomey's 30-40 list.
 
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Scoop said:
Could you be any more vague?

No matter what happens you can claim success.
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That’s the M.O of a lot of these trade/draft wannabe gurus, make a hundred predictions and claim success on the one they got right or make vague predictions and contour a result where they can claim success. They’re like a $2 sideshow clairvoyant.
 
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tigertim said:
That’s the M.O of a lot of these trade/draft wannabe gurus, make a hundred predictions and claim success on the one they got right or make vague predictions and contour a result where they can claim success. They’re like a $2 sideshow clairvoyant.
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Have you read PRE lately :LOL:;)
 
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Players that can kick it to our forwards and not straight to the oppo interceptor would / should be the mantra.

Nothing cuts the opposition apart like precision kicking, speed and big engines
 
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Redford said:
Here's Bo Bo.

www.afl.com.au

Class of 2024: From swimming pool to draft pool, Allan set to make waves

Get to know West Australian midfielder Bo Allan ahead of the 2024 AFL Draft
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au
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mmm, imagine we end up with this bloke

Lalor, Smillie, Allan, big powerful beasts even add cooper hynes, all versatile, all competitors

Those boys are the hardest to find in the draft, allows us to pick up quick small whippets with late picks and rookie picks in the future to compliment them.

I am warming to this as an outcome
 
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tigerlove said:
If rumours abound that we'd be after Tauru at #6 (I haven't personally heard this anywhere) then there's no chance North would trade with us anyway unless it included #6.
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Great rumour Blair is spreading.
Doubt we have any interest at pick #6
But encourages Nth to trade with us and grab our pick #6 as they’d be confident we wouldn’t grab him with pick #2.
Genius move.
 
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Tiggy Train said:
Smilie is the real unknown quantity. Will he become the next Cripps or the poorly skilled Hopper? I want him at a latter pick, but I think clubs will take a risk on him earlier bc of his size and strength as he looks like a JHF type that can play straight away.
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He's already a better kick than Hopper
 
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