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2024 Draft Thread

Redford said:
What ? But you are the Magic Pudding predictor of trades spoof !

You've changed man. You've changed. :ROFLMAO:
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Righto, old man. Just for you:

Port:
Out: 13, 29
In: 10, 37

Why? They want Travaglia and so do West Coast. They now pick before West Coast.

GWS:
Out: 15, 37
In: 23, 24

Why? Brings their 4th pick into the deep section of the draft and gives them 16, 21, 23, 24 so some degree of control over who they bring in. Also gives them the option to trade for an F1 while still holding a strong hand in this draft. And the coveted first pick of night 2.

St Kilda:
Out: 7, 32
In: 13, 18

Why? Gives them an extra pick in the first round. Giving 7 instead of 8 assures Richmond they won't steal our guy (Smillie) (Heheh, see what I did there?).

Richmond:
Out: 6, 10, 18, 20, 23, 24
In: 2, 7, 15, 29, 32, F2

Why? Secures pick 2, doesn't really affect getting Smillie given North is picking Tauru.

North:
Out: 2, F2
In: 6, 20

Why? Get Tauru and a good pick where they'll have a stack of options.

We now have 1, 2, 7, 11, 15, 29, 32 and an F2.
Lalor, FOS, Smillie, Hotton/Allan, Whitlock, and who the hell knows.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Mods, maybe @The_General can we move (or stop) this trivial ongoing stuff about the worth of points for picks that's taken over this thread.

It's been a ripper thread with great debate and opinion on juniors on the JUNIOR board. Let's not lose that.

There is a thread on the main board called Trade Week Richmond Only for that stuff.
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Point taken
 
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@spook or @Scoop or whatever his name is has been fixated on this FOS at #2 thing. To RFC. And as recently as yesterday was thinking of wild schemes for pick #8. It's only dawning on me that Blair is too.

I was thinking Blair would cop our current hand if it netted us Lalor and Player X. Yeah, nah.

Why is Blair sniffing around #13? To meet St Kilda's requirements for pick #7-8? Why #7-8? It's on the table and even if it won't satisfy Norfs it may still get us Player X. #13 might go to St Kilda or Norfs. I'm still ruminating on that.

Pick #8 costs us 11+24 or 29? Dunno. Thinking...

Here's the thing. We have let it out that we're taking Bo Allan at say #11. Why would we trade that out? If we want Allan we will keep the pick. But. If we can't have Allan why wouldn't we trade the pick that gets him to WCE or FREO? We then have 12 or 14 to argy bargy. And the other stuff we get for downgrading.

The #2 pick in this draft is a very strong card. Very strong. Thursfield has a lot of power. He can always just pivot and take FOS. He can grind it down to 3+38 any time. Maybe squeeze a bit harder. Maybe grind down again from #3. Blair will have to meet NMFC's price but there are lots of deals he can do on the way to that.
 
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spook said:
I find it hard to believe we'll get pick 2 just for the loss of 11 and 18.
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It is hard to believe.

The only chance I see is if North see the very real chance of getting who they want with their first pick after a deal is done and if that happens they would see anything else as a bonus. The only chance I see of that happening is the Bullus scenario of them ending up with St Kilda’s pick 7 in a series of swaps.

For instance if they get Tauru with 7 rather than using 2 then another pick is pure upside for them.

If Blair can pull that off then he is a genius.
 
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spook said:
Righto, old man. Just for you:

Port:
Out: 13, 29
In: 10, 37

Why? They want Travaglia and so do West Coast. They now pick before West Coast.

GWS:
Out: 15, 37
In: 23, 24

Why? Brings their 4th pick into the deep section of the draft and gives them 16, 21, 23, 24 so some degree of control over who they bring in. Also gives them the option to trade for an F1 while still holding a strong hand in this draft. And the coveted first pick of night 2.

St Kilda:
Out: 7, 32
In: 13, 18

Why? Gives them an extra pick in the first round. Giving 7 instead of 8 assures Richmond they won't steal our guy (Smillie) (Heheh, see what I did there?).

Richmond:
Out: 6, 10, 18, 20, 23, 24
In: 2, 7, 15, 29, 32, F2

Why? Secures pick 2, doesn't really affect getting Smillie given North is picking Tauru.

North:
Out: 2, F2
In: 6, 20

Why? Get Tauru and a good pick where they'll have a stack of options.

We now have 1, 2, 7, 11, 15, 29, 32 and an F2.
Lalor, FOS, Smillie, Hotton/Allan, Whitlock, and who the hell knows.
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That 'who the hell knows' guy always turns out to be a good player.
 
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spook said:
Righto, old man. Just for you:

Port:
Out: 13, 29
In: 10, 37

Why? They want Travaglia and so do West Coast. They now pick before West Coast.

GWS:
Out: 15, 37
In: 23, 24

Why? Brings their 4th pick into the deep section of the draft and gives them 16, 21, 23, 24 so some degree of control over who they bring in. Also gives them the option to trade for an F1 while still holding a strong hand in this draft. And the coveted first pick of night 2.

St Kilda:
Out: 7, 32
In: 13, 18

Why? Gives them an extra pick in the first round. Giving 7 instead of 8 assures Richmond they won't steal our guy (Smillie) (Heheh, see what I did there?).

Richmond:
Out: 6, 10, 18, 20, 23, 24
In: 2, 7, 15, 29, 32, F2

Why? Secures pick 2, doesn't really affect getting Smillie given North is picking Tauru.

North:
Out: 2, F2
In: 6, 20

Why? Get Tauru and a good pick where they'll have a stack of options.

We now have 1, 2, 7, 11, 15, 29, 32 and an F2.
Lalor, FOS, Smillie, Hotton/Allan, Whitlock, and who the hell knows.
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This is plausible, @Scoop. Terrific work.
 
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Leysy Days said:
Mods, maybe @The_General can we move (or stop) this trivial ongoing stuff about the worth of points for picks that's taken over this thread.

It's been a ripper thread with great debate and opinion on juniors on the JUNIOR board. Let's not lose that.

There is a thread on the main board called Trade Week Richmond Only for that stuff.
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Fair point.
 
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How early would we have to pick Jonty Faull to be sure to get him?
I’ve watched quite a few videos and he looks a very likely type to me. He has the sort of frame that I could see filling out to be a Lynch type replacement.
 
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Blair planned this year from last year's draft. We hold the cards, we are the "hammer", so its our time to hammer these deals our way.
if we swap picks it will be to our advantage, if not, the other clubs trading at some point will lose a pick (or earlier pick) in a strong draft.
I'm quite confident we can pull this off, if not, we just sit back and just pick and as picks turn over, the clubs will become more desperate and will offer more if their targets are there.
 
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spook said:
Righto, old man. Just for you:

Port:
Out: 13, 29
In: 10, 37

Why? They want Travaglia and so do West Coast. They now pick before West Coast.

GWS:
Out: 15, 37
In: 23, 24

Why? Brings their 4th pick into the deep section of the draft and gives them 16, 21, 23, 24 so some degree of control over who they bring in. Also gives them the option to trade for an F1 while still holding a strong hand in this draft. And the coveted first pick of night 2.

St Kilda:
Out: 7, 32
In: 13, 18

Why? Gives them an extra pick in the first round. Giving 7 instead of 8 assures Richmond they won't steal our guy (Smillie) (Heheh, see what I did there?).

Richmond:
Out: 6, 10, 18, 20, 23, 24
In: 2, 7, 15, 29, 32, F2

Why? Secures pick 2, doesn't really affect getting Smillie given North is picking Tauru.

North:
Out: 2, F2
In: 6, 20

Why? Get Tauru and a good pick where they'll have a stack of options.

We now have 1, 2, 7, 11, 15, 29, 32 and an F2.
Lalor, FOS, Smillie, Hotton/Allan, Whitlock, and who the hell knows.
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We're getting shafted all that to get pick 2 and get 7 when we got 6. Pick 24 let alone is gold first pick the second night clubs will come at us with a first rounder. In that twenty range where we have multiple picks that's we're all the KP players will go . No for me.
 
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daniel30 said:
We're getting shafted all that to get pick 2 and get 7 when we got 6. Pick 24 let alone is gold first pick the second night clubs will come at us with a first rounder. In that twenty range where we have multiple picks that's we're all the KP players will go . No for me.
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Got it. You'd rather have pick 15 next year than Finn O'Sullivan.

We are not getting shafted in the slightest. You have to give up something to get something. We're giving up the chance to trade for pick 15 nest year, for FOS. We're winning.
 
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Perhaps St KIlda could be the party to get a Pick 2 trade over the line. Not sure we'd be doing this, as it takes away all out picks for talls later in the draft, maybe we would throw up a future 2nd instead of 1 of them, but this probably isn't a million miles away. Would we trade those 3 at the back end of the 1st round (all will end up picks in the 20's) for Pick 2? Depends I suppose on how good we think FOS could be. We could then slide back from 11 if we wanted to, there would be plenty of offers.

Richmond In - Pick 2. Out Picks 18, 20 and 23
Saints In - Picks 18 and 20. Out Pick 7
North In - Picks 7 and 23. Out 2

Going into the draft would leave us with Picks 1, 2, 6, 10, 11 and 24.

Would seem to satisfy all parties on what they were after, assuming we were ok with using those 3 picks up.

Richmond - Gets another top draftee for the cost of 3 20's picks, retains all of 6, 10 and 11
Saints - Have said they are interested to split - Giants could beat our offer if they wanted to
North - Probably keeps a pick that gets Tauru (only Melbourne could take him, I don't think the will personally) and gets them another pick in the "talls" region of the draft
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5 picks in the first dozen always worthy of a happy face, doubt it's a prospect though. 3 best mids, best KPP n another mid / utility type, then another KPP with the 24 pick plus still the first picks at the Rookie n PSD in case there's a dodgy crumb or two worth hoovering up.
 
daniel30 said:
We're getting shafted all that to get pick 2 and get 7 when we got 6. Pick 24 let alone is gold first pick the second night clubs will come at us with a first rounder. In that twenty range where we have multiple picks that's we're all the KP players will go . No for me.
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There is very good mail around, daniel, that Blair is in negotiations right now around picks 10 and 13.

And there is mail around that Blair is negotiations right now for GWS 15.

We know that RFC is mad on FOS and wants him at #2. And that Chortle-on is mad on FOS and wants him at #3.

Spook is making sense of this stuff. And very good sense of it IMO.

FWIW I reckon his final scenario is a bit optimistic but eh. We're trying to make sense of Blair's bigger picture in light of the new info that's getting around. The Port mail is rock solid. The GWS mail probably is.

What we think of the business after Blair does is, well, is even harder to predict than the business itself. On the face of it I think it'd be a miracle for Blair to pull that off but you're thinking maybe it's not enough. We'll get a bit more information soon enough and maybe it will work out to the satisfaction of all.
 
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