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2024 Draft Thread

Travaglia & Lindsay, pick 18 Whitlock, pick 20 Faull.
Interesting. Choosing 2 hbf’s? Perhaps one is a wing?
I really like Travaglia and think he could develop midfield minutes but would look at a pressing need of a small forward and hff to compliment him and would pick a Berry or Hotton if Armstrong was off the board
 
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Interesting. Choosing 2 hbf’s? Perhaps one is a wing?
I really like Travaglia and think he could develop midfield minutes but would look at a pressing need of a small forward and hff to compliment him and would pick a Berry or Hotton if Armstrong was off the board
If the tank is good with Lindsay I'll buy a ticket, that lifts his ceiling to potential AFL midfielder, but I'll take a version of Mark Chaffey if defence is his calling. No to Berry, I generally don't like wasting high picks on small forwards when they are generally plentiful. Hotton is an ACL risk & for tall forwards I'll take Faull & Whitlock later in the draft.
 
Do we not go Armstrong & Berry at 10 and 11 over Lindsay and Travaglia if available?
To me, it addresses a more pressing need
With both these two I think it’s down to how much higher we rate them than those who can play a similar role and are likely to be available at our later picks.

Berry is good, but is he that much better than Datolli and Hannaford who are likely to be around in the 20’s?

With Armstrong I think there’s a reasonably strong chance he goes top 10. However, if he is available is he that much better than Faull or Whitlock?

It feels like with the other players we could take (Reid, Lindsay or Tavalgia) there aren’t such clear equivalents likely to be available a little later. Maybe someone has some suggestions for these?
 
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Doesn't make a lot of sense.

You'd prefer to gain 7 picks this year (keep 11 instead of 18)

ahead of gaining 20+ picks next year (a pick inside 6 vs pick 25-30)?

no way would do that.

The 6 & 11 for 2 & nth F1 is bloody tempting. means we keep all our picks.

To get back higher in this draft We could then potentially bundle two of our 20's picks for an earlier one, say 20 + 25 for Ports 13.

Not sure yet, but well worth considering.
I’d prefer we keep our pics perhaps gain a f2 or more with some sliders like last year
 
It's not a strange criticism when you are comparing two players who are vying for a back flank position. He also didn't attend the combine but from Rookie Central these were the knocks.

STRENGTHS:

+ Ball use
+ Consistency
+ Inside-outside balance
+ Kick penetration
+ Versatility
+ Work rate

IMPROVEMENTS:

- Endurance
- Inside craft
But his strength is ball use, kick penetration, consistency and work rate. Not sure how you have a good work rate but need to improve your endurance.

From the same website, Disposal efficiency the biggest improvement for Travaglia.

So quite clear Lindsay the better user as I stated.

No knock on endurance. As I I’ve previously stated, my recruiter acquaintance is a big wrap for him and reckons he runs all day. No chance goes past pick 12 😉

Yep, good intel Snoop Doggy Dog. Matches my eye test seeing him live numerous times.
 
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But his strength is ball use, kick penetration, consistency and work rate. Not sure how you have a good work rate but need to improve your endurance.

From the same website, Disposal efficiency the biggest improvement for Travaglia.

So quite clear Lindsay the better user as I stated.



Yep, good intel Snoop Doggy Dog. Matches my eye test seeing him live numerous times.
What number do you see Lindsay going at Gloop ?
 
But his strength is ball use, kick penetration, consistency and work rate. Not sure how you have a good work rate but need to improve your endurance.

From the same website, Disposal efficiency the biggest improvement for Travaglia.

So quite clear Lindsay the better user as I stated.



Yep, good intel Snoop Doggy Dog. Matches my eye test seeing him live numerous times.

Not sure the comparison between Travaglia and Lindsay is needed anyway TBH.

Lindsay is way more mid at this stage, was excellent when in their late in the year. Better kick as well.

Travaglia runs harder, competes harder (no knock on Lindsay) and better overhead.

Very different footballers, who will have different roles.
 
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But his strength is ball use, kick penetration, consistency and work rate. Not sure how you have a good work rate but need to improve your endurance.

From the same website, Disposal efficiency the biggest improvement for Travaglia.

So quite clear Lindsay the better user as I stated.



Yep, good inter Snoop Doggy Dog. Matches my eye test seeing him live numerous times.
I think he's a good kick, I wouldn't consider him otherwise, but I also think Travaglia had a better state carnival and kicked at 82.5%. They both pass the eye test in any case and look like the best combination at 10/11, happy to have a Morrish medalist with some kicking skills, looks reasonably bluechip for that range.
 
Not sure the comparison between Travaglia and Lindsay is needed anyway TBH.

Lindsay is way more mid at this stage, was excellent when in their late in the year. Better kick as well.

Travaglia runs harder, competes harder (no knock on Lindsay) and better overhead.

Very different footballers, who will have different roles.
Seems about right.

I actually see the Bendigo Italian maybe being a winger in time, in the Kaps mould. Ok, he's not super quick but neither is Kaps. He'll run and run all day, defend and attack, contest hard and take a grab for you as well.

Lindsay will get around the ground a bit more - into different spaces and situations.
 
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Seems about right.

I actually see the Bendigo Italian maybe being a winger in time, in the Kaps mould. Ok, he's not super quick but neither is Kaps. He'll run and run all day, defend and attack, contest hard and take a grab for you as well.

Lindsay will get around the ground a bit more - into different spaces and situations.

Yeah agree.

Lindsay will be more inside. He's really developed that edge to his game.
 
Lindsay had 30 disposals vc v metro.
Biggest and best game of the year and he delivered. Demonstrates endurance with so many possies
 
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From a report of the game from rookie central (fwiw)
#3 Xavier Lindsay (Gippsland Power)
Midfielder | 183cm | 03/08/2006

Stats:
30 disposals, 11 marks, 8 tackles, 6 inside 50s

Lindsay was absolutely immense and arguably the best player afield on Sunday, operating off the wing before a second half run on-ball. He racked up 11 marks and 20 uncontested possessions on the outside, using his running and powerful left foot as weapons to launch Vic Country inside 50. He was also prepared to do the tough stuff; like shirt-fronting Trainor, winning centre clearances late in the piece, and laying a clutch holding-the-ball tackle in the passage which led to the goal to put his side ahead
 
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If the tank is good with Lindsay I'll buy a ticket, that lifts his ceiling to potential AFL midfielder, but I'll take a version of Mark Chaffey if defence is his calling. No to Berry, I generally don't like wasting high picks on small forwards when they are generally plentiful. Hotton is an ACL risk & for tall forwards I'll take Faull & Whitlock later in the draft.
Does Whitlock last beyond GWS 15/16 ?
Or Swans 19 ?

Think if we want JW we need to hold 18 and I can see giants grabbing him first
 
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Does Whitlock last beyond GWS 15/16 ?
Or Swans 19 ?

Think if we want JW we need to hold 18 and I can see giants grabbing him first
Is he really all that good ? The dozen or so games I've seen of him he can go missing a lot, look terribly unco at times, and lack a bit of intensity. Other times he's looked pretty athletic for his size, good leap and will finish off ok. Pads his stats out a bit too I think, with some cheapies but maybe that's a good thing ie mobility.

I can't make my mind up about him. If he is going to be anything half decent, I think it's gonna take 4-5 years maybe.

(I reckon Matt is actually the better of the two as well fwiw. Better mark and can play in defence too.)
 
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Not sure the comparison between Travaglia and Lindsay is needed anyway TBH.

Lindsay is way more mid at this stage, was excellent when in their late in the year. Better kick as well.

Travaglia runs harder, competes harder (no knock on Lindsay) and better overhead.

Very different footballers, who will have different roles.
Agree, Travaglia has huge upside, could go the Will Day/ Hayden Young route of becoming a mid after back flank time.

Doesn’t have that polish but he certainly has a great physical skill set to build on.
 
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Is he really all that good ? The dozen or so games I've seen of him he can go missing a lot, look terribly unco at times, and lack a bit of intensity. Other times he's looked pretty athletic for his size, good leap and will finish off ok. Pads his stats out a bit too I think, with some cheapies but maybe that's a good thing ie mobility.

I can't make my mind up about him. If he is going to be anything half decent, I think it's gonna take 4-5 years maybe.

(I reckon Matt is actually the better of the two as well fwiw. Better mark and can play in defence too.)
Jack struggled at times in the first half of the season but his second half of the year was much more consistent and he looks like he has as much potential as any tall forward in this years pool. FWIW, I like Jack more than Matt.
 
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