2021 Draft Thread

[Redford]

Now this is the sort of important, in depth, not common knowledge research PRE is famous for. Thanks Rory Hilton.

Fantastic mane lineage. Gives Leysy great comfort. Let's draft him.

Best delete the post shortly though, lest it escapes into opposition hands.

Thoughts Redford?

Yes, meets the necessary mane requirements. Solid.

 

[Scoop]

the idea of pairing them with buddies is fine on your first day of Kinder,

but as men? seriously?

Luke Jackson and Trent Rivers, best mates. I know Brisbane did it with a bundle of Warnambool and Western District boys. It's common place.

You don't overreach but if it's line ball, it comes into clubs thinking.

 

[Redford]

Luke Jackson and Trent Rivers, best mates. I know Brisbane did it with a bundle of Warnambool and Western District boys. It's common place.

You don't overreach but if it's line ball, it comes into clubs thinking.

They must rate Howes high. I like him.

 

[taztiger4]

Is that perceived attitude? This is something that I'm largely clueless about, the drinking at the stadium & hair dying certainly rings a couple of warning bells, fair play to those who think it contravenes our no DH policy.

no mate, I just think he is a bit meh/ ordinary.

The beer I was OK with

 

[bullus_hit]

First Round:
1. Horne-Francis (North Melbourne)
2. Darcy (Western Bulldogs)
3. Callaghan (GWS)
4. Daicos (Collingwood)
5. Gibcus (Gold Coast)
6. Rachele (Adelaide)
7. Johnson (Hawthorn)
8. Erasmus (Fremantle)
9. Hobbs (Richmond)
10. Amiss (Fremantle)
11. Andrew (St Kilda)
12. Ward (West Coast)
13. Wanganeen-Milera (Essendon)
14. Goater (Port Adelaide)
15. Sonsie (GWS)
16. Sinn (Brisbane)
17. van Rooyen (Richmond)
18. Chesser (Sydney)

Second Round:
19. Butler (Melbourne)
20. Draper (Brisbane)
21. Taylor (Fremantle)
22. Motlop (North Melbourne)
23. Howes (Hawthorn)
24. Wilmot (Geelong)
25. Knevitt (Hawthorn)
26. Clarke (Carlton)
27. Fahey (GWS)
28. Owens (St Kilda)
29. Brown (Richmond)
30. MacDonald (Richmond)
31. Murley (Richmond)
32. Bazzo (West Coast)
33. Sheldrick (Geelong)
34. Windhager (Sydney)
35. Conway (Geelong)
36. Roberts (Adelaide)
37. Williams (Geelong)

Third Round:
38. Fejo (West Coast)
39. Rankin (Melbourne)
40. Warner (Sydney)
41. Browne (Brisbane)
42. Alleer (North Melbourne)
43. Dean (North Melbourne)
44. Lohmann (Melbourne)
45. Hough (Collingwood)
46. Tunstill (Geelong)
47. Soligo (Essendon)
48. Lord (Essendon)
49. Burgoyne (Port Adelaide)
50. Woewodin (Melbourne)
51. Jackson (Hawthorn)
52. Uwland (Gold Coast)
53. Leiu (Brisbane)
54. Long (Fremantle)
55. Nyuon (Carlton)
56. Rayson (Hawthorn)
57. Dittmar (West Coast)
58. Banks (Western Bulldogs)

Adelaide: Rachele (6), Roberts (36)
Brisbane: Sinn (16), Draper (20), Browne (41), Leiu (53)
Carlton: Clarke (26), Nyuon (55)
Collingwood: Daicos (4), Hough (45)
Essendon: Wanganeen-Milera (13), Soligo (47), Lord (48)
Fremantle: Erasmus (8), Amiss (10), Taylor (21), Long (54)
Geelong: Wilmot (24), Sheldrick (33), Conway (35), Williams (37), Tunstill (46)
Gold Coast: Gibcus (5), Uwland (52)
GWS: Callaghan (3), Sonsie (15), Fahey (27)
Hawthorn: Johnson (7), Howes (23), Knevitt (25), Jackson (51), Rayson (56)
Melbourne: Butler (19), Rankin (39), Lohmann (44), Woewodin (50)
North Melbourne: Horne-Francis (1), Motlop (22), Alleer (42), Dean (43)
Port Adelaide: Goater (14), Burgoyne (49)
Richmond: Hobbs (9), van Rooyen (17), Brown (29), MacDonald (30), Murley (31)
St Kilda: Andrew (11), Owens (28)
Sydney: Chesser (18), Windhager (34), Warner (40)
West Coast: Ward (12), Bazzo (32), Fejo (38), Dittmar (57)
Western Bulldogs: Darcy (2), Banks (58)

Fantastic effort Toothless, I'd say very comparable to my own top 60. Only a few differnces in the 50-60 range which is to be expected.

 

[momentai]

First Round:
1. Horne-Francis (North Melbourne)
2. Darcy (Western Bulldogs)
3. Callaghan (GWS)
4. Daicos (Collingwood)
5. Gibcus (Gold Coast)
6. Rachele (Adelaide)
7. Johnson (Hawthorn)
8. Erasmus (Fremantle)
9. Hobbs (Richmond)
10. Amiss (Fremantle)
11. Andrew (St Kilda)
12. Ward (West Coast)
13. Wanganeen-Milera (Essendon)
14. Goater (Port Adelaide)
15. Sonsie (GWS)
16. Sinn (Brisbane)
17. van Rooyen (Richmond)
18. Chesser (Sydney)

A bad result for us in the first round.
We really need both Johnson and Erasmus to be available to Fremantle at 8.
If that happens their biggest risk will be missing out on Amiss (plus one of the two top Mids in WA, Erasmus and Johnson).
If both are still available I believe they will take Amiss at 8 and the mid remaining at 10.
We will have already taken the other, or Amiss. Both better prospects than Hobbs.

 

[bullus_hit]

no mate, I just think he is a bit meh/ ordinary.

The beer I was OK with

Form tapered off a bit towards the end of the year but both he & Dean have been averaging 7-8 intercepts a match which is elite. The fact he can also go forward indicates some flexibility.

 

[tigertim]

Form tapered off a bit towards the end of the year but both he & Dean have been averaging 7-8 intercepts a match which is elite. The fact he can also go forward indicates some flexibility.

If anyone wanted him they could’ve taken him as a DFA. Unless there’s pros and cons I don’t get in terms of taking someone as a DFA v the drafts.

 

[BrisTiger24]

Can confirm the family have great hair!!

Wow...that is quality mane....what happened to bro on the right? Letting the team down by shaving his head (also looks like he's had a run in with a pie and sauce down the front of his t-shirt)

 

[bullus_hit]

If anyone wanted him they could’ve taken him as a DFA. Unless there’s pros and cons I don’t get in terms of taking someone as a DFA v the drafts.

Could be $$, in which case he'll probably be put on minimum wages.

 

[eZyT]

Luke Jackson and Trent Rivers, best mates. I know Brisbane did it with a bundle of Warnambool and Western District boys. It's common place.

You don't overreach but if it's line ball, it comes into clubs thinking.

yeah I get it and I hear you its a micro-sorter,

but I'm suss on an 18yo realising his dream, but needing someone to hold their hand., and the go home factor in general.

Im a bit old school. if 16 yo's could man the trenches at Gallipoli,

an 18 yo should be able to handle seeing the sunset over the sea in Fremantle and 100k to chase a ball.

having said all that, horses for courses, I get a indig kid from a tiny community with English as a 2nd language, or a kid from Ireland needs additional support.

 

[eZyT]

Geez - I'll have a bite on this one.

I don't think boys of that age could be considered adult or men at all - only for the rarest of exceptions. Boys are emotionally incomplete - they have a lot of growing to do. Having someone you trust to help you along that path is really important (assuming good character, of course).

Having a mate along with you could help enormously to adjust to interstate life, life away from home. I moved interstate when I was 32 and wished for 2 years I could have a few more mates about - and I had my wife with me! Some one to have a laugh with, to confide in, to have a whinge to. At 18 I would have been lost.

I think it's good drafting strategy to bundle mates together - so long as you're getting the players you want / need.

No way I'd do it with high picks for the sake of it - they'd need to good players in their own right. But as a drafting consideration - certainly part of the mix.

fair enough. all my kids left home and got 5000km away pretty much on their 18th birthday, entirely under their own steam, and none have moved home after 5 years.

sounds like it's me

I have assisted them financially to get to Richmond grandfinals regularly

 

[spook]

Games in 2021 with more than 20 disposals:
Sinn: 0/5 (two with 20 - all NAB League)
Sonsie: 5/7 (2 games against VFL opposition)
Butler 3/9 (plus two with 20 - all NAB League)

And Sinn has awful hair.

 

[jb03]

The London seems an odd choice for the venue.

 

[Redford]

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The London seems an odd choice for the venue.

They did that last year. Open space out the back maybe a factor, but still, unusual venue.

 

[taztiger4]

Games in 2021 with more than 20 disposals:
Sinn: 0/5 (two with 20 - all NAB League)
Sonsie: 5/7 (2 games against VFL opposition)
Butler 3/9 (plus two with 20 - all NAB League)

And Sinn has awful hair.

Yep , plus

We will already have 1 Josh running around with the VFL , dont need 2

Sinn is a *smile* surname

Sonsie is already a ripper nickname

 

[Redford]

Keyser Sonsie. (He has bad hair too.)

 

[AstuteTiger]

Ben Hobbs

GWV Rebels, NAB League / Horsham Demons FC / Ballarat Clarendon College
State: Victoria (Country)
Height: 183cm
Weight: 79kg
Date of Birth: 16/09/03

Medium midfielder who is a hard-edged beauty who excels one-on-one and consistently extracts the ball out of congestion. Has elite game sense, reading the cues in winning the loose ball and has been ultra-consistent from the Under-16s championships in 2019 when he won All-Australian selection and Victoria Country's MVP. Has similar traits to Port Adelaide star Travis Boak with his competitive edge and ability to hit the scoreboard, averaging 25 disposals (11 contested), 5.2 clearances and five tackles in six matches for the Rebels and winning Team of the Year honours. Co-captain of Victoria Country at Under-19s level, he showed his trademark ball-winning ability and zest having 29 disposals to be among his team's best players. Showcased his athleticism with an 80cm running vertical jump and 6 minutes 32 seconds for 2km at the NAB AFL Draft Combine in Bendigo for Victoria Country.

Kevin Sheehan reveals his top NAB AFL Draft Prospects: Medium/Tall Midfielders

AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan reveals his latest batch of prospects

www.afl.com.au

 

[eZyT]

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The London seems an odd choice for the venue.

Makes perfect sense for Sonsie to link arms with all the fellas for a rousing rendition of tigerland

 

[eZyT]

Ben Hobbs

GWV Rebels, NAB League / Horsham Demons FC / Ballarat Clarendon College
State: Victoria (Country)
Height: 183cm
Weight: 79kg
Date of Birth: 16/09/03

Medium midfielder who is a hard-edged beauty who excels one-on-one and consistently extracts the ball out of congestion. Has elite game sense, reading the cues in winning the loose ball and has been ultra-consistent from the Under-16s championships in 2019 when he won All-Australian selection and Victoria Country's MVP. Has similar traits to Port Adelaide star Travis Boak with his competitive edge and ability to hit the scoreboard, averaging 25 disposals (11 contested), 5.2 clearances and five tackles in six matches for the Rebels and winning Team of the Year honours. Co-captain of Victoria Country at Under-19s level, he showed his trademark ball-winning ability and zest having 29 disposals to be among his team's best players. Showcased his athleticism with an 80cm running vertical jump and 6 minutes 32 seconds for 2km at the NAB AFL Draft Combine in Bendigo for Victoria Country.

Kevin Sheehan reveals his top NAB AFL Draft Prospects: Medium/Tall Midfielders

AFL Talent Ambassador Kevin Sheehan reveals his latest batch of prospects

www.afl.com.au

Its a good wrap and Sheehan knows his stuff and leads opinion rather than follows.

This speil changed my mind