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10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]
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I'm not going back to reaqd the previous 180+ pages on this so don't know if this has been answered or not. Will all this going on, am I safe to assume that we are ok with the salary cap?
Also, the other night on the way home, I heard an interview on 3AW with Murray Rance. I missed the start of it but what I caught was good listening. My main concern, if we draft Cousins, was the effect he would have on our young kids. Rance said, paraphrasing a bit here, the kids at Tigerland would be able to teach Ben a thing or two about how to behave off the field. In other words, they have their heads srewed on straight and would be intelligent enough to see what effect this has had on Ben and not want to go down that path.
Also, the other night on the way home, I heard an interview on 3AW with Murray Rance. I missed the start of it but what I caught was good listening. My main concern, if we draft Cousins, was the effect he would have on our young kids. Rance said, paraphrasing a bit here, the kids at Tigerland would be able to teach Ben a thing or two about how to behave off the field. In other words, they have their heads srewed on straight and would be intelligent enough to see what effect this has had on Ben and not want to go down that path.
The salary cap is fine.
How a long a contract do people think he should be given? *Premptive slap to the first person who says 5 years* :hihi
How a long a contract do people think he should be given? *Premptive slap to the first person who says 5 years* :hihi
Hayfever said:
So if he is the Messiah that many on here make him out to be, we stand to have to be doing some serious negotiating at the end of next year then hmm? This is what i was getting at.
Or do we try and get him "cheap" and give him a 2/3 yr contract while he is going at a bargain price? With the obvious downside being if his comeback fails we are financially committed to him (other than if he you-know what's).
The focus has to be on next year only at this stage. If it works well then everyone will be better off. Our membership level for starters. The option would be our favour for an extension, and in his favour for an upgrade in salary. In other words a win:win.Dyer Disciple said:
I 'd just like to say hello to all the press who are lurking on our board at the minute...2.30 lads!! :-*
I'd like a 3 year contract with a straight no questions asked "get out" clause should he be caught taking drugs again.
The reason being, he's either going to become a gun for the next 3-4 or even 5 years, or he's going to relapse during the first year or two and be delisted.
So I'd sign him up for 3 years at a low price, but if he has a major stuff up, contract get ripped up.
Assume the best, but prepared for the worst.
The reason being, he's either going to become a gun for the next 3-4 or even 5 years, or he's going to relapse during the first year or two and be delisted.
So I'd sign him up for 3 years at a low price, but if he has a major stuff up, contract get ripped up.
Assume the best, but prepared for the worst.
If he's to come it's 12 months, performance based, zero tolerance.
Smart clubs have a 1 year contract deal for most stable stars over 30, let alone drug addicted injury prone one's. Anything more than 12 months is stupidity.
Smart clubs have a 1 year contract deal for most stable stars over 30, let alone drug addicted injury prone one's. Anything more than 12 months is stupidity.
Tigers of Old said:
No its not.
If we sign for one-year and he does stay clean, an tears the competition apart, then we're going to have to dig deep to pay him.
A two-year deal for a very low cost however means we keep him for cheap if he does return to his best, but its still not a lot of cash to pay out if he does have a relapse and we kick him out the door.
skiptomystu said:
and conversely what if he can't get on the park or falls off the wagon?
We have offered him a lifeline when all others have rejected him. Why do anything so rash as offer 3 years?
Richo, Bowden, Johnson are all over 30 and on one year deals, why would Cuzz be any different?
If he rips it up & stays clean then we can compensate him at the end of next season when a few other vets are on their way out. However that's still a big if..
Tigerbob said:
Suprise, suprise. We think alike again.
That's how I see it too, hence me putting it out there. I see him as a exception to the rule. I agree with ToO, in that normally 30+ players should get one year. Certainly with Cousins history there should be a lot of performance/conduct clauses, but that is to be expected anyway. Regardless of length.
I think he is a exception to the rule though. It would be easy to look at the downside, but if he did get back to A+ and appear to saty clean he would be worth a awful lot on the open market.
Get an option on him now cheap I say.
Dyer Disciple said:
I disagree DD.
He'll be 32 years old in 2010.
Do you honestly think clubs are going to pay a fortune for a guy well into his twilight years?
Also would Benny simply up and walk out for the next best offer at the end of the year for more money if our club has helped with his rehab?
If he did so be it IMO.
That would go down like a lead balloon in terms of public opinion.
I'd take the risk on a 1 year deal at this point. He has plenty to prove.
Tigers of Old,
The time has come to put down your paws and welcome our newest player. Both he and our Club have together the capacity to bring inspiration to traditional supporters, new supporters and most importantly, recovering addicts. Fantastic news which you should welcome.
The time has come to put down your paws and welcome our newest player. Both he and our Club have together the capacity to bring inspiration to traditional supporters, new supporters and most importantly, recovering addicts. Fantastic news which you should welcome.
the contract discussion is a tricky one. i can see a valid argument for both 1 and 2 years. how about a 1 year deal with a 1 year option? if ben reaches a certain level of performance/games played, it will automatically trigger the 2nd year option at a price negotiated today.
Give him 4 years. If he goes off the rails the Tigers can put a submission in to the AFL to list him as a mature age rookie arguing it will be of humanitarian concerns and in Cousins best interests for his full recovery and rehab.
Then we promote Gourdis on to the main list.
Then we promote Gourdis on to the main list.
