10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]

[Willo]

Re: Ben Cousins

TOO,
Why would the club not want to provide him with a bit of encouragement and be trying to get a fit Ben to join us in 09.

I simply don't see the downside especially given that at the moment we are desperately short of leadership on the ground.

I am tired of listening to the same old waffle. If we don't employ a bit of imagination we are likely to find ourselves in the bottom 4 long after you
and I have forgotten the Tigers of old.

12 months from when all his troubles came to light, would give an idea whether he's cleaned up his life and learned some hard lessons.
If it was seen that he's 'on the wagon' and is getting his life in order, why not sit down with him and have a chat? Nothing to lose and maybe, just maybe it might have a big upside. teach the younger brigade at Tigerland how to bust a gut and the effort that's required to achieve. I think any reasonably objective person would agree that Cuz did know how to put in the hard yards on the training track and would "gut run" during games.
My opinion is, we've got nothing to lose talking with him, he may even be happier with a team with less spotlight (than collinscum)

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins

Do us a favour will ya,

as there is no replay on Australianetwork drop your daks at half time and do a streak, that way Gustiger and I might get to see some footage of the game at least

and all of PRE will know what you look like. :hihi

Sounds tempting CMT.
Might moon Juddy on the way through and if the Tigers are behind on the scoreboard hopefully I'll go some way towards revenge for Helen D'Amico and we will storm home in second half. >

 

[Phar Ace]

Re: Ben Cousins

Sounds tempting CMT.
Might moon Juddy on the way through and if the Tigers are behind on the scoreboard hopefully I'll go some way towards revenge for Helen D'Amico and we will storm home in second half. >

Do half all the audience a favour and at least wear an AliGString................ ;D

Mom, I doubt anyone would be troubled by Miller sitting down with Cuz over a cuppa. So that should at least stop your flight of fancy on that matter. But really, you're not just mooting that are you? And people can read that - and that is what they are mainly responding to. They (and I) doubt there will be much upside for this club and besides, if we do manage to keep this list on younguns together cos they improve this year, there may not be much room for another overvalued interstater (which we are apt to pay handsomely for).

 

[momentai]

Re: Ben Cousins

Pharance, TOO and the rest of you so upset about the prospect of Ben in a Tiger jumper,

I can't believe the high and mighty attitude. He may be totally clean and a very solid risk come 09, yet you seem willing to give up on a player of this quality who may come with a clean bill of health.

Why isn't Ben entitled to another chance?

Our leadership is a joke and our coach and footy director have stuffed up our development with the likes of Kingsley, Graham and Mcmahon, plus a passion for ill fed flankers.

Yet when the real deal whose health is continuously monitored and may be available to us in the PSD comes along, you turn up your noses.

 

[jb03]

Re: Ben Cousins

lol.
Mom has the blinkers on with regards to this issue.

I'll be amazed if Cousins ever plays AFL football again.


Now where's jim bob?

;D

I'm here Tooheys, keeping a close eye on this thread. You've already cost us Cousins once, don't do it again.

 

[Phar Ace]

Re: Ben Cousins

Pharance, TOO and the rest of you so upset about the prospect of Ben in a Tiger jumper,

No you misread - upset doesn;t describe matters - accepting that other prospects would be likely to bring greater rewards. For example - It's not that i don;t like you, it's just that i like Claudia Schiffer more ;D

I can't believe the high and mighty attitude. He may be totally clean and a very solid risk come 09, yet you seem willing to give up on a player of this quality who may come with a clean bill of health.

Just as you are prepared to take a calculate stance on events that have happened and may not happen in the future, I'll take a calculated stance on things that haven't happened and may happen in the future.

Why isn't Ben entitled to another chance?

It's not about another chance - it's about a chance at RFC - see my Claudia Schiffer argument again............

Our leadership is a joke and our coach and footy director have stuffed up our development with the likes of Kingsley, Graham and Mcmahon, plus a passion for ill fed flankers.

We are 16th, AGAIN! There will always be this sort of fingerpointing no matter the club. When you finally chase youth this is inevitable (though I do think Kingsleygate was inexcusable - but not sackable). The rest is debateable not fact :.

Yet when the real deal whose health is continuously monitored and may be available to us in the PSD comes along, you turn up your noses.

Geez, see my Claudia Schiffer argument again................ and anyway, I don;t like blue cars, but just becuase you do I don;t have to consider one

 

[rickyvaughn99]

Re: Ben Cousins

That is all we need at Richmond....bringing in a 30 year old Corey Delaney for our on-field leadership!
Ben Cousins is a monumental waste of talent and a big lesson to everyone on what drugs can cost a person.

If you believe what you read you wouldn't even think that he is 100% clean and people are worried about the PSD?

 

[momentai]

Re: Ben Cousins

No you misread - upset doesn;t describe matters - accepting that other prospects would be likely to bring greater rewards. For example - It's not that i don;t like you, it's just that i like Claudia Schiffer more ;D

Just as you are prepared to take a calculate stance on events that have happened and may not happen in the future, I'll take a calculated stance on things that haven't happened and may happen in the future.
It's not about another chance - it's about a chance at RFC - see my Claudia Schiffer argument again............
We are 16th, AGAIN! There will always be this sort of fingerpointing no matter the club. When you finally chase youth this is inevitable (though I do think Kingsleygate was inexcusable - but not sackable). The rest is debateable not fact :.

Geez, see my Claudia Schiffer argument again................ and anyway, I don;t like blue cars, but just becuase you do I don;t have to consider one

Claudia can't kick you twit.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins

Just as you are prepared to take a calculate stance on events that have happened and may not happen in the future, I'll take a calculated stance on things that haven't happened and may happen in the future.

Exactly.
Cousins is an admitted 'drug addict'.
That's right drug addict, not some guy who dabbled in party drugs occasionally, he was a heavy user who became reliant.
That's a liabilty in anyone's language and the major reason his football club punted him in the first place. They had given him plenty of 'second chances'. Heck many had because of his obvious talents.

Interesting that despite his denials he didn't launch any legal action against his club or media outlets for slander, incorrect reporting etc. etc. isn't it?
Perhaps that's because most of it were true even if it all wasn't because at the time Benny was clearly as in denial about his addiction as the odd deluded poster here was.

Whilst the odds are stacked against him, good luck to him if he gets clean, I wouldn't wish harm on Ben or anyone with a life threatening habit but I am far from convinced by the argument that a football club environment is the best place for Bender to change his notorious party boy ways..

If he is 100% committed to having another shot at football then he might be worth a low cost punt in the PSD but please excuse me if I have my sceptism because some things are no longer up for argument.

So by all means let Greg Miller buy Benny a cup of coffee, just make sure it's decaffinated.

 

[Phar Ace]

Re: Ben Cousins

Claudia can't kick you twit.

You don't say.............. :

 

[jb03]

Re: Ben Cousins

Exactly.
Cousins is an admitted 'drug addict'.
That's right drug addict, not some guy who dabbled in party drugs occasionally, he was a heavy user who became reliant.
That's a liabilty in anyone's language and the major reason his football club punted him in the first place. They had given him plenty of 'second chances'. Heck many had because of his obvious talents.

Interesting that despite his denials he didn't launch any legal action against his club or media outlets for slander, incorrect reporting etc. etc. isn't it?
Perhaps that's because most of it were true even if it all wasn't because at the time Benny was clearly as in denial about his addiction as the odd deluded poster here was.

Whilst the odds are stacked against him, good luck to him if he gets clean, I wouldn't wish harm on Ben or anyone with a life threatening habit but I am far from convinced by the argument that a football club environment is the best place for Bender to change his notorious party boy ways..

If he is 100% committed to having another shot at football then he might be worth a low cost punt in the PSD but please excuse me if I have my sceptism because some things are no longer up for argument.

So by all means let Greg Miller buy Benny a cup of coffee, just make sure it's decaffinated.

You're clearly addicted to PRE but it doesn't mean we all think less of you.

Run Benny Run.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins

You're clearly addicted to PRE but it doesn't mean we all think less of you.

Junkies hang out together I guess jim beam. ;D

 

[Tames]

Re: Ben Cousins

A year off will give his 29yo body a good rest. Assuming he comes back, he'd still have 3-4 years in him.

 

[jbprophoto]

Re: Ben Cousins

mmmmmmmmm this is a hard one.

Simply put he is an outstanding player, one of the best to ever have played IMO.

Leadership, great skills and massive on the training track with a lot to teach young ones, also a lot not to teach young ones too which is sad but part of life I suppose :O(

BUT, could be quite a risk taking him on, would have to be very well monitored and performance based and matches played based salary clearly.

could be worth it if he runs out of options, and he is all clear to play, if he semms fit and right and well and has his head together, and we can get him cheaply to throw him a lifeline to play footy again. could blow up in our faces but could also be the start of real leadership and something that we need...........

imagine first game 2009 Richmond Vs Carlton, Judd Vs Cuz in the centre bounce in the season opener............ I'm hard just thinking about it............ :O)

 

[Talon]

Re: Ben Cousins

One of the best and most inspirational players I've ever seen, I watched the kid play since juniors, I want him to move on and have a successful and healthy life, it would be great to see him play football again, but thats not a real priority or reality, he is still very much struggling with his problem and all these AFL or lower leagues clubs should just consider that he is off limits for a fair while and keep his continuing rehab as uncomplicated as can be!

 

[MC]

Re: Ben Cousins

The negatives outweigh the positives for a club in our position. He does have negatives, you know, your post seems to imply he doesn't.

Agree about the club in our position comment. However that does not mean he can't be a handy pick up for another club.

He is young for his age, has a great build, fit, athletic and could play a couple of years. He is in better shape than most of out list. Our guys seem to not have a gym? Or know where it is?

Yes, he loves his party's but this guy is a champion with silky skills, and if you could get him for nothing in the PSD you would have to consider him. Yes, the negatives will Still be there but it could be worth a try?

 

[Maxwell]

Re: Ben Cousins

A year off will give his 29yo body a good rest. Assuming he comes back, he'd still have 3-4 years in him.

I've heard that before - Carey wasn't it :

 

[dew12]

Re: Ben Cousins

Run a poll,

Who would you take a chance on in the PSD?

Wallace :spin or Cousins olice:

Cousins would give us more value in the PSD than Wallace ever has......... >

Tivendale & Johnson retiring.....modest cash upside in PSD, certainly aint been much telent there is previous drafts.
We have Wayne Johnson at the club, showed him the door....so we've already danced once with the devil in the pale moonlight...and made it to the other side...

Miller masterstroke, plant him at C'wood, learn the game plan and then defect to Richmond....(hint Greg) wakey...wakey...hand off snakey!

 

[dew12]

Re: Ben Cousins

:cutelaugh :cutelaugh :cutelaugh :hihi :hihi :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

[cagedtiger]

Re: Ben Cousins

:cutelaugh :cutelaugh :cutelaugh :hihi :hihi :rofl :rofl :rofl

:headscratch