Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
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Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
They have just provided a big incentive to clean their acts up anyway.
tigerlee said:
They have just provided a big incentive to clean their acts up anyway.
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Hear hear to that Rosyrosy23 said:
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
ExactlyLeeToRainesToRoach said:
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
All these pages written about Cousins and only a handful of posters who actually make any sense at all or show any knowledge of the problem.
People, Cousins cannot be only mildly addicted to drugs - that's like saying a woman is slightly pregnant.
Cousins cannot continue playing footy AND get control of his addiction. Football is what has contributed to his addiction.
For one reason or another, Cousins, football, and drugs are all rolled up together. He has to go into rehab, i.e. no football.
Most of you are sobbing because we didn't get to pick him up - evidently the thought of gaining a top footballer means more than helping a person who has an addiction - shame on you.
Some are even in denial, claiming that he was never caught out. The man has admitted his addiction so what more proof do you require?
I am glad for Cousins' sake that today's decision has gone this way. I am glad for Cousins' safety, I am glad that at last we might get somewhere on drugs in football and I am glad that we didn't pick him up.
All these pages written about Cousins and only a handful of posters who actually make any sense at all or show any knowledge of the problem.
People, Cousins cannot be only mildly addicted to drugs - that's like saying a woman is slightly pregnant.
Cousins cannot continue playing footy AND get control of his addiction. Football is what has contributed to his addiction.
For one reason or another, Cousins, football, and drugs are all rolled up together. He has to go into rehab, i.e. no football.
Most of you are sobbing because we didn't get to pick him up - evidently the thought of gaining a top footballer means more than helping a person who has an addiction - shame on you.
Some are even in denial, claiming that he was never caught out. The man has admitted his addiction so what more proof do you require?
I am glad for Cousins' sake that today's decision has gone this way. I am glad for Cousins' safety, I am glad that at last we might get somewhere on drugs in football and I am glad that we didn't pick him up.
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
Agree 100% Gusgustiger12 said:
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
One strike policy then good1? So all other players with at least one postive should be banned from the game.
What about players admitting to recreational use or having tried it in their teens.
Not having a go, just asking your view. Just seems it would be hard to draw the line with such a black and white perspective.
GoodOne said:
One strike policy then good1? So all other players with at least one postive should be banned from the game.
What about players admitting to recreational use or having tried it in their teens.
Not having a go, just asking your view. Just seems it would be hard to draw the line with such a black and white perspective.
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
What I cant understand is that Cousins never failed an AFL drugs test. Last year channel 7 named a club with a few players that had tested positive (Rosy I never named the club) to the AFL drug policy claiming two of the 7 players had tested postive twice. If the AFL were serious about drugs in the game, they should purse and suspend those who have failed the compulsory AFL drug code.
I am against drugs and believe the AFL should get their act together in cleaning up the problem with your caught once, you're gone!
What I cant understand is that Cousins never failed an AFL drugs test. Last year channel 7 named a club with a few players that had tested positive (Rosy I never named the club) to the AFL drug policy claiming two of the 7 players had tested postive twice. If the AFL were serious about drugs in the game, they should purse and suspend those who have failed the compulsory AFL drug code.
I am against drugs and believe the AFL should get their act together in cleaning up the problem with your caught once, you're gone!
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One thing that actually staggers me is the selfishness in people who want one person in Cousins to 'get better' at the expense of Richmond winning more football matches, thus denying thousands of more enjoyment.
One thing that actually staggers me is the selfishness in people who want one person in Cousins to 'get better' at the expense of Richmond winning more football matches, thus denying thousands of more enjoyment.
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
I'd compromise but toughen it up further:
- Caught once using illegal drugs & you are named & suspended for 12 weeks whilst rehabilitated, educated etc. you must also pay the ongoing costs of your further testing.
- Caught twice & you are rubbed from the game.
The current three strikes policy is an absolute joke, particularly give the ratio of tests compared to the number of players in the AFL.
It's virtually encouraging players to get away with it.
Time to apply the media blowtorch to the AFLs soft drug policy and clean up the culture of illegal drug use that clearly spans the entire code.
nwonash said:
I'd compromise but toughen it up further:
- Caught once using illegal drugs & you are named & suspended for 12 weeks whilst rehabilitated, educated etc. you must also pay the ongoing costs of your further testing.
- Caught twice & you are rubbed from the game.
The current three strikes policy is an absolute joke, particularly give the ratio of tests compared to the number of players in the AFL.
It's virtually encouraging players to get away with it.
Time to apply the media blowtorch to the AFLs soft drug policy and clean up the culture of illegal drug use that clearly spans the entire code.
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
jb03,
There's no doubt there needs to be a consistent and effective approach to a policy for drugs. I think drugs are a blight at all levels of communities and anything that can be done to dissuade people from taking drugs is good. Anyone who wants to get to the top of level of any sport has to give up alot to get there. For many that is learnt from a very young age. If they learn as well that, if they take drugs they will be banned which may affect their desire to reach the top level, then you will find many more will resist the urge.
I heard an interesting interview with Alicia Molik on SEN. When asked if she thought drugs was a problem in women's tennis (after Hingis admission) she said no, because they have a very tough drug policy and anyone can be drug tested at any time of the year anywhere. Now if you know that there is a high chance you are going to get caught if you take drugs then obviously if you value your sport you are not going to take them.
I know its pretty simplistic and there are many hurdles, privacy rights and even with the best intentions there are still going to be people who defy, but the trend has moved towards more stringent testing everywhere, and I have no doubt in football that it will become more stringent in the future. In fairness to the AFL, the drug policy is a very new initiative, and it is still not common-place in team sports, so you do have to commend them to a certain level for taking a forward step on this. Obviously there are many improvements to be made, but no-one could seriously expect this draft 1 of the drug policy to be the perfect solution and not require changes. The real test now is for them to make required changes and continually evolve.
jb03 said:
jb03,
There's no doubt there needs to be a consistent and effective approach to a policy for drugs. I think drugs are a blight at all levels of communities and anything that can be done to dissuade people from taking drugs is good. Anyone who wants to get to the top of level of any sport has to give up alot to get there. For many that is learnt from a very young age. If they learn as well that, if they take drugs they will be banned which may affect their desire to reach the top level, then you will find many more will resist the urge.
I heard an interesting interview with Alicia Molik on SEN. When asked if she thought drugs was a problem in women's tennis (after Hingis admission) she said no, because they have a very tough drug policy and anyone can be drug tested at any time of the year anywhere. Now if you know that there is a high chance you are going to get caught if you take drugs then obviously if you value your sport you are not going to take them.
I know its pretty simplistic and there are many hurdles, privacy rights and even with the best intentions there are still going to be people who defy, but the trend has moved towards more stringent testing everywhere, and I have no doubt in football that it will become more stringent in the future. In fairness to the AFL, the drug policy is a very new initiative, and it is still not common-place in team sports, so you do have to commend them to a certain level for taking a forward step on this. Obviously there are many improvements to be made, but no-one could seriously expect this draft 1 of the drug policy to be the perfect solution and not require changes. The real test now is for them to make required changes and continually evolve.
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Well said ToO and am sure it echoes the thoughts of a lot of others as wellTigers of Old said:
Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
Cheers Goody. Well said. :clap
GoodOne said:
Cheers Goody. Well said. :clap
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Can anyone tell me if Politicians and judges are drug tested on a regular basis? Im curious to know because we put all this importance of testing sports stars for illicit drugs when in the whole scheme of things and at the end of the day sport is realy just a bit of fun. People who make Really important descision that effect peoples lives on a daily basis are the ones who should be drug tested first and foremost before we even start to think about testing anyone else.
Can anyone tell me if Politicians and judges are drug tested on a regular basis? Im curious to know because we put all this importance of testing sports stars for illicit drugs when in the whole scheme of things and at the end of the day sport is realy just a bit of fun. People who make Really important descision that effect peoples lives on a daily basis are the ones who should be drug tested first and foremost before we even start to think about testing anyone else.
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Ben has left the building, time see what else karma (Earl) has in store for us
Ben has left the building, time see what else karma (Earl) has in store for us
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Re: Cousins: The poll. Do you want the Tigers to draft Ben Cousins?
Look,fellow PREnders....
Im not condoning Cuz,s life choices or makin exuses for him but having met quite a few mega talented people who excelled and got to a level in their chosen profession that few of us mortals could ever BEGIN TO dream of achieving,,,,
History is full of people who self destruct and who just totally go off the rails.
Why?
Thats the question.
get to the reason WHY cuz lost the plot.
Is banning him gonna benefit the game?
Was it the West toast weagles footy club culture that failed him?
For Chrissasakes he was a Premiership player and a brownlow medallist.
That would be my quest...to find the answer to that bloody perplexing question.
Id ask Cuz ....."why mate?"
As clown said,po;iticians and judges and their huge incomes.......
Id love to have esp and be superman,bionic woman and a megaphsycic all in one to read about what goes on in the life of some of these so _ called professionals...Look at Rod butters from the saints.....I rest my case.......
Bloody good post Clown!clown said:
Look,fellow PREnders....
Im not condoning Cuz,s life choices or makin exuses for him but having met quite a few mega talented people who excelled and got to a level in their chosen profession that few of us mortals could ever BEGIN TO dream of achieving,,,,
History is full of people who self destruct and who just totally go off the rails.
Why?
Thats the question.
get to the reason WHY cuz lost the plot.
Is banning him gonna benefit the game?
Was it the West toast weagles footy club culture that failed him?
For Chrissasakes he was a Premiership player and a brownlow medallist.
That would be my quest...to find the answer to that bloody perplexing question.
Id ask Cuz ....."why mate?"
As clown said,po;iticians and judges and their huge incomes.......
Id love to have esp and be superman,bionic woman and a megaphsycic all in one to read about what goes on in the life of some of these so _ called professionals...Look at Rod butters from the saints.....I rest my case.......
