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Welcome to Tigers: Jason Castagna
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bullus_hit said:
Well said, as usual, Bullus. I've hardly bothered posting on this thread since Hazy/Dazy's claims about JC being our CHF. Firstly because it caused a painful paroxysm of laughter and secondly, as I told him on another thread, I could not take him seriously. Especially when I spotted some of his supporters for that post. Anyone who thinks he is a CHF has simply never seen a good one and has little idea. For starters, they're well over 6 feet (need to be to compete with big backmen and opp rucks dropping back) and leap for, and consistently hold, great contested, including pack marks. Castagna has a great leap and his other key attributes are speed and power for his weight, but he is still a small/medium forward who can contest in the air, mostly not dragging the mark down, and he can be a threat once it hits the ground. Fairly good recovery though. However, his skills, both kicking and handballing remain erratic. I say this because from watching him closely, he is a very nervy player who becomes wracked by self-doubt easily. I think it will take a lot more time for him to eradicate his confidence issues.
After posting late 2017 that as handy as he can be, he had to improve his skills to be more deadly. I waited for quite a few games this season before I complimented him on doing that. However, then he quickly lapsed back terribly in the GWS game where he cost us what should have been a comfortable win.
He's still a work in progress. Some really over-rate his marking and impact - '0.8 contested marks & 10 possessions' - and will NEVER be a CHF. Jason needs to become reliable to solidify his place even as SF with Baker and Stengle, even Lloyd, able to convert better from their opportunities.
PS - Leysy, look up these guys: Royce Hart and Matthew Richardson. Now they were true and great CHFs. Please.
It amuses me how this is your frequent comeback. Why? That's the best you can manage - no address of the content, the ideas, the arguments? :hihi
Potentially a strong SF if he can ever get his act together reliably. Here's the key attribute he must develop to succeed long-term. POISE. It's this which the great players have. That game-sense to know when you have to release the ball and find the best available option immediately because you're hot, or to realise there is some space in a certain direction if you go there now. From there choose the best option: if there's a definite better one than your current position, hit him with an accurate kick or HB. Or, if you are it, kick it strongly and accurately without any doubting of your abilities (includes set-shots). Presently, JC is too often still a panic merchant.
Of course, our elite 4, plus the likes of Edwards and Prestia demonstrate this ability. Some have it innately (Higgins already shows clear signs), for others it takes time e.g. Caddy is getting there, and Butler too gradually but much faster than JC.
Potentially a strong SF if he can ever get his act together reliably. Here's the key attribute he must develop to succeed long-term. POISE. It's this which the great players have. That game-sense to know when you have to release the ball and find the best available option immediately because you're hot, or to realise there is some space in a certain direction if you go there now. From there choose the best option: if there's a definite better one than your current position, hit him with an accurate kick or HB. Or, if you are it, kick it strongly and accurately without any doubting of your abilities (includes set-shots). Presently, JC is too often still a panic merchant.
Of course, our elite 4, plus the likes of Edwards and Prestia demonstrate this ability. Some have it innately (Higgins already shows clear signs), for others it takes time e.g. Caddy is getting there, and Butler too gradually but much faster than JC.
leon said:
You're funny leon because you just wasted a post talking to yourself. He's playing CHF. No one said he was a great CHF, but that is the role he often plays. He competes with blokes well over 6ft all the time.
Did you know he is 15th in the comp for marks I50? Do you realise the list is made up of key forwards? That George, despite not being the typical KF size, is actually playing that role?
Sometimes it's OK to admit you are wrong.
leon said:
naw, i'm just sayin' lighten up
we are top of the ladder with september beckoning.dimma loves George and so do I
Baron Samedi said:naw, i'm just sayin' lighten up
dimma loves George and so do I
Refer below excerpt from article on RFC website,
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-08-06/cotchin-a-pressure-king
Cotchin had a total of 101 pressure points – 40 ahead of the next best in the match, Tigers forward Jason Castagna
Georgie doing what he is in the team for, (pressure), goals are the cherries on top, (the points not so much ;D)
MD Jazz said:
Well said Jazzy. Saved Leysy typing a response to Leonie, who is wrong. Again.
Like shelling peas.
pokey said:
Another excellent post. Menzel doesn't get near our side and certainly not anywhere near taking George's spot.
It's a great example that Scott just doesn't get why we keep beating them.
Leysy Days said:
Not sure where you get your stats, maybe looking at totals rather than averages but I see:
18th in league for tackles inside 50 behind Rioli, Bulter and Townsend and just6/100ths ahead of Reiwoldt and Caddy (6 Tigers in the top 21).
22nd in league for marks inside 50 (pretty good for a smaller player - maybe top 3 or 4 for non-talls)
caesar said:
Yep that's his greatest asset, his forward pressure and does that very well most weeks. Rioli had 54 and when Butler is in he usually ranks up there as well. It's that combined manic pressure forward that makes us the best score from turnover int he forward line team in the league.
Tenacious said:
No it wasn't a point, he didn't kick any points, it was out on the full and yes that is classed as a turnover. Am I sure about the rest? I don't know I haven't checked every one of his disposals, I'm just stating what the stats say, 6 turnovers.
Leysy Days said:
Didn't say he would be back in the VFL this year, I am saying that his position is far from secure heading into the 2019 season. Lynch comes in and he's half-way there to becoming redundant. At that point he needs to be measured against the best small forwards in the comp and statistically he's behind the eightball. The CHF fantasy simply isn't sustainable. Then there's those moments where he kills momentum, he did it again last week with a rotten out of bounds on the full, that could have seen the lead blow out to 5 goals & break Geelong's back early in the piece. I'll give him credit, he nailed a good set shot from the boundary, that is what he needs to keep doing in order to maintain his position.
