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Walls is spot on.
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se7en said:
I don' t have their playing weight in 2004, but their listed weight and their age on the day
Peter Burgoyne 183cm 84kg 26y 240d
Kane Cornes 183cm 83kg 21y 264d
Stuart Dew 183cm 99kg 25y 38d (would have been under that at Port)
Adam Kingsley 183cm 83kg 29y 36d
Gavin Wanganeen 181cm 83kg 31y 99d
Michael Wilson 181cm 89kg 27y 309d
Damien Hardwick 180cm 82kg 32y 38d
Josh Mahoney 180cm 82kg 26y 330d
Brett Montgomery 180cm 83kg 31y 116d
Josh Carr 179cm 80kg 24y 149d
Byron Pickett 178cm 86kg 27y 45d
Jarrad Schofield 178cm 80kg 29y 239d
Roger James 177cm 89kg 28y 340d
So they were certainly heavier, but also far more mature, not something we can rush with our new recruits.
So he was wrong. Walls should have quantified it by saying we had recruited young, skinny pigmies. ;D
Spanish Prisoner said:
Comparing Walls and Matthews? :rofl Turn it up. Walls inherited a strong Carlton team. First season of coaching them, 20 wins and 4 losses. Just two years later he was walked out the door with Carlton 2 wins and 8 losses. Then his next 5 years at Brisbane, 30 wins and 78 losses. I think his subsequent efforts at coaching showed his true qualities. Take away his first two years and Walls has one of the worst coaching records in history. Even with those first two years, esteemed coaches like Geischen and Wallace have better win/loss ratios. Of all the coaches who have coached more than 100 games, only Frawley, Judge, Robert Shaw and knights have worse records. Take away Walls first season where he was given the team on a plate, and he is stone bottom of 100 game coaches and is pushing Bartlett territory. You don't judge a person's achievements on one year, you judge it on their career.
As for Tony Jewell, he coached 1 season. Are you saying teams would have taken him on if he had wanted to continue coaching? Same for Walls? I don't think so. And by Walls's commentating we understand why.
Spanish Prisoner said:
Walls won a flag, purchased for him from South Australia. Also sacked from four clubs.
Having said that, his commentary doesn't annoy me as much as some others'.
Hawthorn was the shortest side in the comp in 2008, while Geelong was second tallest. A good player is a good player and a dud is a dud, no matter what height they are.
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Agreed - don't understand a slagging off as a sole means of justifying an argument. Use the mute button people if you must, but his longevity as a commentator beats any arguement I've seen on here. No, not a fan - just can't see the point at being offended.
Phar Ace said:
He's actually quite unique - generally negative slant, but rarely hyper-critical. Balances the calling of others who have an eye for the sensational. Although if you had a commentary box full of Robert Wallses, it's be worse than a funeral.
Phar Ace said:
Reckon Walls would be suited to delivering eulogies. And at least I wouldn't have to listen to it.
It would have been good if he had highlighted the fact that the other draft picks that were taken last year were;
Martin 186cm
Griffiths 199cm
Astbury 195cm
Dea 186cm
Taylor 189cm
Grimes 193cm
Could have balanced his point by saying that at least we had gone some way already to addressing our height shortage!
Martin 186cm
Griffiths 199cm
Astbury 195cm
Dea 186cm
Taylor 189cm
Grimes 193cm
Could have balanced his point by saying that at least we had gone some way already to addressing our height shortage!
As quoted by the prev poster, Col K is correct.
Walls is not spot on. Our problem has been no good players. The priority therefore was to get some good players, start from scratch. a) as we find a few decent players we can then start to think about priorities, and b) because we've started from scratch we have a lot of young recruits, and the shorter recruits develop quicker.
another thing, if, hypothetically, we had started to come back and even win, he would then have expounded the benefits of our mosquito fleet, such is his revolving door approach to opinion.
Walls knows not much at all, no matter how stern and authoritative his tone of voice.
Walls is not spot on. Our problem has been no good players. The priority therefore was to get some good players, start from scratch. a) as we find a few decent players we can then start to think about priorities, and b) because we've started from scratch we have a lot of young recruits, and the shorter recruits develop quicker.
another thing, if, hypothetically, we had started to come back and even win, he would then have expounded the benefits of our mosquito fleet, such is his revolving door approach to opinion.
Walls knows not much at all, no matter how stern and authoritative his tone of voice.
I'll say it again. Wall is not, was not and has never been 'spot on', in anything but the most obvious.
Turn it up! That would have required some research and thought and totally ruined what was a cheap shot.puregreen said:
GoodOne said:
Couldn't agree more, anyone can look like a genius if given the right personnel. When faced with building a premiership team Walls was nigh on useless, he showed a distinct lack of ability in tailoring his gameplan to match the skill level at his disposal. Some hailed him as a great tactician, I believe he was the opposite (and the statistics back that up.)
