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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!
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After your blinkered and moronic comment,it just shows that an umpire is behind the eightball from the beginning.Perhaps the AFL should set up a special place for narrow minded supporters like yourself.They could call Maggot haters Anon.rimau35 said:
Goldie, I gave you a chance at redemption. Next time take it.........please.gold1 said:
Where did I say that the maggots conspire to make Richmond lose?
The current maggots are incompetent and inconsistent, partly driven by the nature of our mighty game and the ambiguous rules imposes by has-beens and their own egos - the maggots want to be part of the AFL folklore.
They are incompetent and inconsistent toward every club.
When the AFL allows them to become part of the mighty game, by allowing praise and critiscism, they will no longer be maggots, but respected on field members of our mighty game.
Do you understand? Let me say it again.
The current maggots are incompetent and inconsistent, partly driven by the nature of our mighty game and the ambiguous rules imposes by has-beens and their own egos - the maggots want to be part of the AFL folklore.
They are incompetent and inconsistent toward every club.
When the AFL allows them to become part of the mighty game, by allowing praise and critiscism, they will no longer be maggots, but respected on field members of our mighty game.
Now after reading this for a second time, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
And just to make a further point, it does not matter if your eyes are WIDE OPEN, if your mind is closed the closed parachute will not make any difference, except that your eyes will really open wide in that second before you bounce of the face of the earth.
An umpire wouldn't risk his job by deliberately choosing to favour one team over the other, but that doesn't mean they can't cost games.
In our game when we were coming back, we lost 3 goals do poor decisions or indecisions. The Maric one everyone is raving about, plus on two occasions when essendon players have been stripped of the ball when taking tacklers on. Without those 3 goals the bombers would have been in strife.
Having said that............
It is my firm belief that umpires shoud NEVER rotate during a game. If you have an umpire paying soft frees to forwards in the first quarter, why shouldn't the opposing team have that same interpretation in the second term? It is so often just one umpire who will pay or not pay a raft of decisions that can swing a game.
Having siad that, i agree with Rosy's comments about us making todays game harder to umpire than yesteryear.
In part this is the fault of the clubs and players trying to exploit rules. For example, in what game does a player try to give possession to an opponent? Since the rule was introduced making a player hot when they dive on the ball, and attempt to get it out sees his opponent/s shovelling it back into his possession.
The high contact rule right now is a complete farce simply because it's not umpired in the spirit. The first question the AFL should ask itself is why was the rule introduced in the first place? The answer obviously is to prevent a player taking an opponent's head off! So why is a player rewarded with a free kick when he himself contributes to the contact? Umpires should have to umpire this rule with the mindset that a player not only has a duty of care to his opponent, but a player also has a duty of care to himself.
The way it's umpired now, players are rewarded for putting themselves in a situation where their neck can be broken. How is that good for any player or the game for that matter?
The inconsistencies with the hands in the back rule is so out of control as to be a complete joke. I was watching a game week before last, can't remember which, but a player was on the run trying to kick a goal from an angle. His opponent pushed him in the bakc at full stretch in an attempt to put him off his kick. This was a push that sent the kicker sprawling on his front, and delivered to the middle of the back. The umpire has a perfect view and even yells "play on" - that is to say, he saw it and made a decision on it? I mean WTF???????? The result of this particular game didn't matter to me, but it just leaves you scratching your head. There seems to be an unwritten law that if a player is on the run shooting at goal you can run hit him in the middle of the back with a battering ram and it wouldn't be paid. I know umpires are human but in a case like that, they have eyeballs and they have a whistle. They also have a belly button and in circumstances like that you'd wonder which of those 3 objects is the most useless to performing their job as an umpire! I'd say the whistle because it's extra weight.
In our game when we were coming back, we lost 3 goals do poor decisions or indecisions. The Maric one everyone is raving about, plus on two occasions when essendon players have been stripped of the ball when taking tacklers on. Without those 3 goals the bombers would have been in strife.
Having said that............
It is my firm belief that umpires shoud NEVER rotate during a game. If you have an umpire paying soft frees to forwards in the first quarter, why shouldn't the opposing team have that same interpretation in the second term? It is so often just one umpire who will pay or not pay a raft of decisions that can swing a game.
Having siad that, i agree with Rosy's comments about us making todays game harder to umpire than yesteryear.
In part this is the fault of the clubs and players trying to exploit rules. For example, in what game does a player try to give possession to an opponent? Since the rule was introduced making a player hot when they dive on the ball, and attempt to get it out sees his opponent/s shovelling it back into his possession.
The high contact rule right now is a complete farce simply because it's not umpired in the spirit. The first question the AFL should ask itself is why was the rule introduced in the first place? The answer obviously is to prevent a player taking an opponent's head off! So why is a player rewarded with a free kick when he himself contributes to the contact? Umpires should have to umpire this rule with the mindset that a player not only has a duty of care to his opponent, but a player also has a duty of care to himself.
The way it's umpired now, players are rewarded for putting themselves in a situation where their neck can be broken. How is that good for any player or the game for that matter?
The inconsistencies with the hands in the back rule is so out of control as to be a complete joke. I was watching a game week before last, can't remember which, but a player was on the run trying to kick a goal from an angle. His opponent pushed him in the bakc at full stretch in an attempt to put him off his kick. This was a push that sent the kicker sprawling on his front, and delivered to the middle of the back. The umpire has a perfect view and even yells "play on" - that is to say, he saw it and made a decision on it? I mean WTF???????? The result of this particular game didn't matter to me, but it just leaves you scratching your head. There seems to be an unwritten law that if a player is on the run shooting at goal you can run hit him in the middle of the back with a battering ram and it wouldn't be paid. I know umpires are human but in a case like that, they have eyeballs and they have a whistle. They also have a belly button and in circumstances like that you'd wonder which of those 3 objects is the most useless to performing their job as an umpire! I'd say the whistle because it's extra weight.
Great post.frickenel said:
But we all know how political influence can determine whether an incompetent official can still enjoy the support of his under-pressure boss.
And I willingly make the comparison of Juliar and her mate Thommo and the incompetent Giesh's comments today about the free kick against Ivan and his support for the maggot who made an error of judgement in a difficult situation.
I can't wait for the day when the maggots earn get the proper respect from the AFL, yes, the AFL, and are allowed to become part of our game and earn our respect.
gold1 said:
It takes a certain type of personality. And they are well paid, considering they're part-timers.
Abuse comes with the territory. 99% of the time, umpires are never going to "win". When an umpire plays up to the crowd, as with the theatrical "dropping the ball" signal against us late in the Geelong game, I could kill. Doing their job as efficiently and inconspicuously as possible is the way to attain the maximum possible respect from footy fans.
Their job is to facilitate play, not to influence it unduly or to take personal umbrage. They ain't the ones people are paying to watch.
Went to state of origin last night, and while League officiating isn't perfect, it was so refreshing to watch a game of footy where the umpires aren't intervening every time there is a physical contest.
They are not so in-your-face as AFL umpires. No blowing the whistle every 5 seconds.
And they don't ponce about like AFL umpires, either.
Rugby League umpires also seem to be allowed to use their judgment on issues such as high contact - not awarding frees for incidental contact.
It was a pleasant change.
They are not so in-your-face as AFL umpires. No blowing the whistle every 5 seconds.
And they don't ponce about like AFL umpires, either.
Rugby League umpires also seem to be allowed to use their judgment on issues such as high contact - not awarding frees for incidental contact.
It was a pleasant change.
rimau35 said:
Umpires will never earn our respect. That is the nature of the game. They have been copping it from supporters forever.
It is always easier for some fans to blame the umpires than it is to admit to the weaknesses of their own team. It is in football as it in in life. Nothing the umpires do or don't do will change that.
whatever
of course its hard to umpire..and yes they deserve some leniency and empathy
but god almighty there 4 atrocious and obviously wrong decisions that rested in 4 bomber goals last weekend
and that can't but help frustrate and anger many of us..
of course its hard to umpire..and yes they deserve some leniency and empathy
but god almighty there 4 atrocious and obviously wrong decisions that rested in 4 bomber goals last weekend
and that can't but help frustrate and anger many of us..
gold1 said:
The umpire didn't do his job.
He was biassed.
That's all.
When Richmond got that first goal,Bannister must have went into emotions mode thought "gee the Tiges are looking good'
THen the frees went one way to Essendon after that one goal.
Dimwittio,Anderson,The goose ,Huimphrey bear can lie all they like.
It's on the replay for all to see and it wasn't our supporters.
I had a look at Bf and alot were inj agreeance.
The AFL just put this under the carpet like what they did to Rendl.
They all know the umpiring was onesided deep down.
I'm bumping this thread so the AFL can't hide away from it.
Bannister should be dropped.
P.S. 500 tigers pt 10 bucks each in,we can rid the 5k fine Adolf gave Dimma.
Who is in?
Adolf you cheek.
Bannister shoulda paid us.
10 k.
AFL are dumber than a bag of hammers if they think they can pull the wool over us.
I don't think umpires can be taken seriously until
a) It becomes a full time job - Have them train in and know the rules and sit in meetings watching videos to get a clear and CONSISTENT (that is my main peeve with the umps) view on what the AFL expect in the interpretations of frees
b) they are allowed to be freely criticised within reason. Yes they are like me and you, humans. But if I screw up in my job I cop my licks, I assume everyone who reads this forum are the same and so are the players on each of the 18 lists.
c) the people on the rules committee get their heads out from up their bums and stop tampering with the game.
These three things don't ever look like happening so lets just continue to enjoy the emotional roller coaster that is footy.
a) It becomes a full time job - Have them train in and know the rules and sit in meetings watching videos to get a clear and CONSISTENT (that is my main peeve with the umps) view on what the AFL expect in the interpretations of frees
b) they are allowed to be freely criticised within reason. Yes they are like me and you, humans. But if I screw up in my job I cop my licks, I assume everyone who reads this forum are the same and so are the players on each of the 18 lists.
c) the people on the rules committee get their heads out from up their bums and stop tampering with the game.
These three things don't ever look like happening so lets just continue to enjoy the emotional roller coaster that is footy.
I know we played poorly today but seriously, those pathetic little "men" (and I use the term loosely) in green today were an absolute *smile* en disgrace. :veryupset
Some of their decisions today were vomit worthy.
Some of their decisions today were vomit worthy.
