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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

Nah, it's all on the players. The umps don't call advantage until a player actually takes the advantage. Bakes tried it on and buggered it up. Not the umps fault, that one. We got lucky a few times too. Cameron was definitely held on one of their missed goals. Could easily have been a shot from directly in front.

Not to mention Cumberland probably ran 25-30 metres when he kicked a goal at one point. Even before the Lynch one we got a free to Tarrant when McCarthy would have kicked a goal, then RioliM shoved the bloke out so much that when the whistle blew for the mark he stopped and looked at the umpire thinking he had given away a free kick.

There's always swings and roundabouts if you are prepared to see them.
 
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That angle from the crowd was similar to where I was. Everyone around me called goal. Having looked at the vision it's a clear goal. What I now know is that it should have been a 50m penalty. Andrews wasn't standing.
 
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Doesn't the stand rule apply regardless of whether you are back from the mark. If you are manning the mark, you must stand

No, you can go back 5m and move. He might have been trying to bait Lynch to get closer to the mark than he should because the obvious way to approach that kick is to get as close as you can, which Lynch failed to do.
 
There's always swings and roundabouts if you are prepared to see them.

Even though i use that phrase almost daily,

Id suggest its simply not a truism BR.

Sometimes theres a relentless sequence of swings.

Sometimes your stuck on a roundabout.

Depends on your scale i spose.

But that ArC was *smile* up, by any overlay you care to use,

With the exception of tom lynchs dispassionate baby face?
 
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The AFL introduces a goal review process but fails to provide the technology that will provide definitive evidence to make a ruling.
The broadcast footage is not fit for purpose. Never has been.
The AFL pretends that ARC is cutting edge. In reality it is the outcome of a kindergarten craft project.
And people are stupid enough to gamble on games.
 
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Nah disagree. You can't tell for sure from that video. And this is exactly the point.
It is hard to see from that footage. The general opinion on twiter is point, but there are a lot of Richmond haters out there absolutely loving this.

The question is whether the ball is passing behind or in front of the post so i did a little bit more photo shopping to get a closer look.

Below is a freeze frame as the ball is in line with the post. The question is whether it's in line behind or in line in front of the post.

a.jpg

So i zoomed in for a closer look.
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From that view, the ball looks to be broken ,and not the post.

Not withstanding all of that, the real issue here is that the umpire's call is supposed to stand unless there is conclusive evidence to over turn the soft call, which there is clearly not.
The number 1 idiot is the goal umpire calling a score review when he of all people on the planet is in a better position than anyone to make this call.
Number 2 idiot is the score review judge who thought his camera angles put him in a better position than the person standing right under the ball.

I guess the precedent was set in the Sydney game where a field umpire is about to award a 50m penalty after the siren, as he should have by the rules, but some official in the stands over rides this and makes his own call. The question i have is why it's always Richmond on the wrong side of these calls.

It's like when new rules are brought in and our game is the first exposed. In theory, it's two teams that are the exposed to the 'experiment', but it's always Richmond and not the opponent that cops the over zealous application of the rule in question.
I can't help but think that the AFL little boys club that seems to have a Geelong flavour, loves to ream our club at every opportunity.
 
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The AFL introduces a goal review process but fails to provide the technology that will provide definitive evidence to make a ruling.
The broadcast footage is not fit for purpose. Never has been.
The AFL pretends that ARC is cutting edge. In reality it is the outcome of a kindergarten craft project.
And people are stupid enough to gamble on games.
I heard on the radio that someone had put $48,000 down on the Tigers.
He wouldn't be a very happy camper, but it highlights why the AFL would be so quick to pretend that all is in order.
 
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The AFL might bring in facial jubilation expressive index technology at 3/4 time in the GF?
 
But that ArC was *smile* up, by any overlay you care to use,

The ARC has always been a *smile* show. I've pointed out a few times that balls that look touched actually aren't but no-one has twigged yet.

Problem is if there is no ARC and the umpire calls a goal and it turns out there is footage showing he was wrong then the bloke gets reamed for three days and the usual crap gets trotted out 'It's supposed to be a professional competition', 'what if this decides a Grand Final one day' blah blah blah.

So the kneejerk is to put some system in place that is hopelessly flawed and does nothing more than make it worse. Cricket is the same.

What we should be doing is getting rid of all reviews in sport and going back to accepting umpires are human and the good and bad is the rub of the green.
 
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The ARC has always been a *smile* show. I've pointed out a few times that balls that look touched actually aren't but no-one has twigged yet.

Problem is if there is no ARC and the umpire calls a goal and it turns out there is footage showing he was wrong then the bloke gets reamed for three days and the usual crap gets trotted out 'It's supposed to be a professional competition', 'what if this decides a Grand Final one day' blah blah blah.

So the kneejerk is to put some system in place that is hopelessly flawed and does nothing more than make it worse. Cricket is the same.

What we should be doing is getting rid of all reviews in sport and going back to accepting umpires are human and the good and bad is the rub of the green.
This is spot on. Every sport where there’s a review system someone always feels aggrieved by the decision. If it’s down to the umpire human error will play a part, but it will even itself out.
 
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there's been many observations from the USA about Thursday night - quite a lot of them watch the AFL finals series -

and they're astounded at the lack of camera angles and coverage of the reviews

they've also had score reviews, etc, in place for 35+ years, so a lot more development
 
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Watching this game now, the umps just are not up to it.
Either that or the bias towards Geelong is unpalatable.
 
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Something that's not being spoken about is the snicko on the post.
This would have been more relevant in this assessment.
I guess we just can't afford it.
 
there's been many observations from the USA about Thursday night - quite a lot of them watch the AFL finals series -

and they're astounded at the lack of camera angles and coverage of the reviews

they've also had score reviews, etc, in place for 35+ years, so a lot more development
They use less cameras now than 20 years ago so channel 7 can save money. And it took forever for the AFL to get high def coverage. The AFL is such a disgrace but get a free ride from the media and Gil gets lauded for doing tv deals that Zips could do.
 
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Watching this game now, the umps just are not up to it.
Either that or the bias towards Geelong is unpalatable.
cats as usual are allowed to push in the back and take marks Umps turning blind eye to it
 
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