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Umpire farce - Getting worse by the minute!

What, is it common sense to say Warner is a deaf mute and should be excused ?
One can only assume the ump was perhaps a clairvoyant?
Or he assumed only a fool would give a deliberate 50 at that point. How does he know Warner isn’t a fool?
Just catching up on this thread some great reading and dare I say it common sense analysis.
 
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Sadly I reckon get use to it.
It’s going to be the new norm.
More free kicks, no rough play when the ball unanticipated in play, can’t question the umpire.
The game we use to know is dead.
The media is backing the approach too. They were gushing about the game on SEN. It’s so great what a spectacle. Not going to get any proper analysis from the mainstream media.
 
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To me the only "commonsense question" is: would that 50 have been paid at any other time in the game.

The answer is of course YES, end of discussion.
 
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To me the only "commonsense question" is: would that 50 have been paid at any other time in the game.

The answer is of course YES, end of discussion.
Or, would that 50m penalty have been applied if it was at the other end and it was Franklin? Buddy would have been led to the goal line by all three umps.
 
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The game is on its knees.
You have clowns like Healy calling for free kicks to be paid regardless how puzzling they might be.
Already the AFL has cleared it as the right decision.
Pinoccio reckons it wouldn't have never have been played.
Should we ask Jimmy Stynes
 
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What do you expect the afl come out and say lol basket case games a mess.
 
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Mince defending the non 50m on SEN. Surprise surprise.
Still hearing them now. He's nothing but a pedantic nerd, but who cares. We got the rub of the green last night and blew a 31 point lead, so besides the last minute soap opera, it's our fault we lost. How many games already this season has this happened including Melb at half time?

Dimma's got to fix this up not patch the holes or we'll continue to go downhill.
 
Still hearing them now. He's nothing but a pedantic nerd, but who cares. We got the rub of the green last night and blew a 31 point lead, so besides the last minute soap opera, it's our fault we lost. How many games already this season has this happened including Melb at half time?

Dimma's got to fix this up not patch the holes or we'll continue to go downhill.
Yep, last quarter lapses have been happening all season. Carlton, St Kilda, Melbourne even in the wins v Essendon and Collingwood.
 
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Still hearing them now. He's nothing but a pedantic nerd, but who cares. We got the rub of the green last night and blew a 31 point lead, so besides the last minute soap opera, it's our fault we lost. How many games already this season has this happened including Melb at half time?

Dimma's got to fix this up not patch the holes or we'll continue to go downhill.
We were never beating Melbourne. But we arguably should have beaten Carlton and Saints and certainly should have beaten Swans and Crows. Should be 8-3 but clinging on at 6-5 with 3 very hard games to come. That said if we can't beat Port at home we don't deserve to make finals.
 
Yep, last quarter lapses have been happening all season. Carlton, St Kilda, Melbourne even in the wins v Essendon and Collingwood.
Nank should not be captain. Best they adjust it for next season or maybe give it to a younger player as we did with Chimp.
 
Well, now we have seen it, one incorrect decision changes the outcome of a game. But what do we see in the media? A cover up.

There is no way you can interpret the rules to not give a 50m penalty to Prestia. The rule ( 19.2(e) ) clearly states that a 50m penalty will be awarded when the opposing player:
has not returned the football directly and on the full to the Player awarded the Mark or Free Kick;​

There is no discretion here, it is very very clear. That was a 50m penalty and it should have been awarded and the umpire's incompetence changed the result of the game. The game was not over as the umpire had not raised his hands to say it was over, therefore, the 50m should have been paid. Plus, there are arguments about the 50m rule being all about time wasting, That is simply wrong, the 50m rule states:
After a Mark or Free Kick has been awarded to a Player, a Fifty Metre Penalty will be awarded against the opposing Team which delays or impedes the play, or behaves in an unsportsmanlike manner​

Simply not good enough.

The umpiring was weird last night but I actually think there is another aspect we should be looking at. There have been complaints here about too many free kicks being awarded. Now, it is clear that some of the free kicks were ridiculous, that prohibited contact against Dan Rioli was farcical, and the fact they paid a couple of those last week, got roundly criticised, and then decided to double down this week is revealing. The game is ruled by the morons at AFL House and they will do what they like. But, what really gets me about the high free kick counts in a few games of late is that it isn't so much the number of free kicks but the influence they have. I remember the days when 80-100 free kicks a game was normal. But the difference is that those high numbers of free kicks did not have the influence that 50-60 has today. Part of this is the 50m penalty which is now awarded for very minor infractions and is simply too big a penalty for the infraction, but something else must also be going on because the influence of the umpires has increased even with lower numbers of free kicks paid. Personally I reckon they should pay every free kick they see, but that is not a popular view. Part of this opinion is that if you don't pay them all, how do you decide which frees you don't pay? If there is an infringement pay the free kick, if you think the action should not result in a free kick, change the rules. Plus, the more free kicks are paid the less each bad decision matters because it is 1 bad decision amongst, say 90 free kicks paid, as opposed to 1 bad decision amongst 40 free kicks paid.

Something needs to change. The rules are too complicated and discretionary (even when the actual rule has no discretion, the interpretation seems to allow for discretion, I simply fail to see how kicking it into the crowd is returning the ball on the full). The rules need to be tightened up and simplified. Umpires need to be employed full time and have more training. The current situation is simply a farce.

Before anyone jumps on this, Dimma was right, it should not have come down to that last decision, we should have won regardless given we were ahead by 33 points earlier in the game. But that does not alter the fact that the result of the game changed because of a wrong decision by an umpire at the end of the game.

DS
 
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We were never beating Melbourne. But we arguably should have beaten Carlton and Saints and certainly should have beaten Swans and Crows. Should be 8-3 but clinging on at 6-5 with 3 very hard games to come. That said if we can't beat Port at home we don't deserve to make finals.
We could have as we led at halftime. The ball in our hands...

I reckon we can still do it because if last night's game was at home (even the Dump) against Swans, we would've won for sure. It was that f*cking Buddy Boy that f*cked us in the end. Most of the last 11 games at the G on the business side of the season.
 
But, what really gets me about the high free kick counts in a few games of late is that it isn't so much the number of free kicks but the influence they have. I remember the days when 80-100 free kicks a game was normal. But the difference is that those high numbers of free kicks did not have the influence that 50-60 has today. Part of this is the 50m penalty which is now awarded for very minor infractions and is simply too big a penalty for the infraction, but something else must also be going on because the influence of the umpires has increased even with lower numbers of free kicks paid.

Its a snowball effect. They change so many rules and create so many. The stand rule opens the game up way too much as does the kick in rule. A player who marks the ball or has the kick in already has enough advantage, they dont need to have their defender frozen and given a 20m advantage on top.

Then the ticky touch frees and the soft as butter 50m penalties .... its all about opening the game up...... But if that was truly the case there would be a rule about flooding the defensive 50m.
 
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Everyone seen Buddy strike Cotch with a fist to the chin but not one of AFL's three dahlings (umpires) , reported Buddy one the spot & straight to the Tribunal. They have left it to the MRP who will most probably view it with rose coloured glasses.
 
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