Trade Week - Richmond Only

[Tigerwa]

The objective as explained by Blair was to get AS MANY FIRST ROUND PICKS AS WE COULD.
Now we have people willy nilly wanting to trade them away. Im still dirty on us losing pick 14.
We gave up plenty to get these picks they did not just grow on a tree.

Im not sure what part of Really even draft in the first 20 to 30 picks people don't understand.

To be honest im not sure why people think NM would want to trade away their F1.

If they finish bottom third which is likely, they will target a quality player next year. I say bottom third because their age and games played demographic suggests this. If they finish bottom 3 they are almost guaranteed a gun.

They are open to trading pick 2 for the right price simply because they think they won't be losing much between pick 2 and whatever picks they get. They think this way because, well you guessed it, its such an even draft.
Should we have been open to trading pick 1 for the same reason?
I say should because i think we have closed off this avenue by resigning the likes of Dow and McIntosh With Colina it may now be we HAVE to trade some picks to fit everyone in.

 

[Blackcats]

If North are selling pick 2 + F1 for 6 and 11 I think you have to pull the trigger.

Pick 2 should be a 200-300 game player.

North are supposedly also looking to sell 2 home games next year to WA, that would mean they travel west at least 3 times and maybe 4. I just can’t see them winning any of those games.

I can’t see them winning enough games to get outside the bottom 4 - 6 next year even with the blokes they picked up in the trade period.

 

[123cups]

The objective as explained by Blair was to get AS MANY FIRST ROUND PICKS AS WE COULD.
Now we have people willy nilly wanting to trade them away. Im still dirty on us losing pick 14.
We gave up plenty to get these picks they did not just grow on a tree.

Im not sure what part of Really even draft in the first 20 to 30 picks people don't understand.

To be honest im not sure why people think NM would want to trade away their F1.

If they finish bottom third which is likely, they will target a quality player next year. I say bottom third because their age and games played demographic suggests this. If they finish bottom 3 they are almost guaranteed a gun.

They are open to trading pick 2 for the right price simply because they think they won't be losing much between pick 2 and whatever picks they get. They think this way because, well you guessed it, its such an even draft.
Should we have been open to trading pick 1 for the same reason?
I say should because i think we have closed off this avenue by resigning the likes of Dow and McIntosh With Colina it may now be we HAVE to trade some picks to fit everyone in.

Could you be more polite when expressing your opinion? There's no reason not to, thanks

 

[Tigerwa]

Could you be more polite when expressing your opinion? There's no reason not to, thanks

Lmfao are you being serious, surely not. I do like a good *smile* take though.
Your surely taking the *smile*.

 

[btoz_01]

Maybe trade
6 20 for 2 Lolnorf
11 23 for 8 Saints
Were left with 1 2 8 10 18 24

 

[tigerlove]

Maybe trade
6 20 for 2 Lolnorf
11 23 for 8 Saints
Were left with 1 2 8 10 18 24

Don't like it personally. Losing 2 picks 20 & 23 to upgrade 6 to 2 and 11 to 8. Maximum picks will give us a better chance. Some of our picks will not succeed.

 

[123cups]

Lmfao are you being serious, surely not. I do like a good *smile* take though.
Your surely taking the *smile*.

*You're

 

[toothless]

The Saints have alreacy indicated that they would be willing to trade back as they'd like more picks in this draft.

they've also delisted above and beyond to ensure they in fact trade down.

 

[DuD_Delist]

Will continue to be a crazy time for Blair and Co , just like on here and social media there are going to be so many ideas on improving our draft hand for this year and next , if I had one thing to say to Blair it would be “ keep it simple” , I have great faith in Blair that he’s got it all simplified as best at it can be , has his targets and how is the best way we can land the main players we want.

Should we put a for sale sign up on pick 1 to gain an extra top 10 pick instead of giving one up?
Hello too Melb & Stk btw,
6/7/8/10/11
or
5/6/9/10/11
3 players can go top pick
First 6 is a race of 10
So even its not funny.

 

[Ghost of 29]

If North are selling pick 2 + F1 for 6 and 11 I think you have to pull the trigger.

Pick 2 should be a 200-300 game player.

North are supposedly also looking to sell 2 home games next year to WA, that would mean they travel west at least 3 times and maybe 4. I just can’t see them winning any of those games.

I can’t see them winning enough games to get outside the bottom 4 - 6 next year even with the blokes they picked up in the trade period.

Certainly tempting to do that trade but do we think that North would give up F1 knowing they will likely finish bottom 4 again?

 

[TigerMasochist]

Should we put a for sale sign up on pick 1 to gain an extra top 10 pick instead of giving one up?
Hello too Melb & Stk btw,
6/7/8/10/11
or
5/6/9/10/11
3 players can go top pick
First 6 is a race of 10
So even its not funny.

If Ashcroft was available, reckon I'd want to keep pick 1. This years draft might easily be the year to mess with some heads n split pick 1 but I doubt Smelbourne or StKiddenme would want to play swapsies. Even # want to split out of their early pick for more options. Draft is just to even this year to get restricted with just one fancy pick.

 

[RoarEmotion]

Should we put a for sale sign up on pick 1 to gain an extra top 10 pick instead of giving one up?
Hello too Melb & Stk btw,
6/7/8/10/11
or
5/6/9/10/11
3 players can go top pick
First 6 is a race of 10
So even its not funny.

Love this question.

The psychology of loss aversion is rife in multiple threads.

On average people double the value of the loss to the gain according to this wiki post.

Loss aversion - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

If you rate the top 10 evenly splitting 1 is a no brainer (as long as have spots to use our picks!)

With that said I’m hoping 1 is a 300+ gamer multi premiership superstar.

 

[tigerlove]

This is so spot on. I sometimes wonder why people just ignore when its said so often by most pundits in the know that this is probably the most EVEN draft of all time.

The theme so far by the club has been to get as many first rounders as possible im on the side of continuing that theme. If that means splitting pick one to get say 5 and 9 so be it.

There is no Harley Reid in this Draft there is no one or two out and out stand outs. Instead it is likely four or five rated 10 20 could be better than that 1 - 10.

There are no more gold nuggets left to sell either and as you say we have just this year and next year before drafts become compromised once again.

A really deep even draft what better time is there to have 8 or 10 top 30 picks. More not less is the go.

We're not giving up pick #1, I can guarantee that. And I think we're still likely to try and get one into a first rounder next year if it's a beneficial deal. Would still have 7 picks under 30. That's plenty, unheard of really.

 

[tigerlove]

Certainly tempting to do that trade but do we think that North would give up F1 knowing they will likely finish bottom 4 again?

Apparently that's what they were rumoured to offer up to get 2 round 1 picks this year. I'd take that offer every day of the week. Would get us 2 x top 5 picks next year on top of 1 and 2 this year.

 

[mrposhman]

The objective as explained by Blair was to get AS MANY FIRST ROUND PICKS AS WE COULD.
Now we have people willy nilly wanting to trade them away. Im still dirty on us losing pick 14.
We gave up plenty to get these picks they did not just grow on a tree.

Im not sure what part of Really even draft in the first 20 to 30 picks people don't understand.

To be honest im not sure why people think NM would want to trade away their F1.

If they finish bottom third which is likely, they will target a quality player next year. I say bottom third because their age and games played demographic suggests this. If they finish bottom 3 they are almost guaranteed a gun.

They are open to trading pick 2 for the right price simply because they think they won't be losing much between pick 2 and whatever picks they get. They think this way because, well you guessed it, its such an even draft.
Should we have been open to trading pick 1 for the same reason?
I say should because i think we have closed off this avenue by resigning the likes of Dow and McIntosh With Colina it may now be we HAVE to trade some picks to fit everyone in.

Its an even draft but there are still tiers. The top tier are always more likely to succeed than those in the later tiers. I'll be rude like you too, I'm not sure what part of tiers in a draft that people don't understand.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Should we put a for sale sign up on pick 1 to gain an extra top 10 pick instead of giving one up?
Hello too Melb & Stk btw,
6/7/8/10/11
or
5/6/9/10/11
3 players can go top pick
First 6 is a race of 10
So even its not funny.

Not for me , have to land one of fos or Lalor preferably both

 

[Aegean Tiger]

It’s an even draft but there are still tiers. The top tier are always more likely to succeed than those in the later tiers. I'll be rude like you too, I'm not sure what part of tiers in a draft that people don't understand.

Tiers within tiers. Do you think there is a top 2 tier Mr P?

 

[mrposhman]

Tiers within tiers. Do you think there is a top 2 tier Mr P?

Yes I do. FOS is definitely in that 2. I think he a Lalor present as the best prospects. There are numerous queries around the others. The most anyone can say against FOS is "but he had a few injuries this year, is he injury prone", even though those injuries were impact rather than soft tissue (fingers / hips etc).

I know others have speculated around players like Smillie, for mine, he has way more risk than FOS and I'd be hesitant to use any pick in the top 10 on him personally.

For me, he's in the 3rd tier of the group. I think there is a top 2, then a 5, then about 15 or so in the next group, and then another group behind them. Some on here would prefer us taking 2 in the tier 3 to tier 4 group as 2 is better than 1, when we have an opportunity to take that top tier player.

 

[Aegean Tiger]

Yes I do. FOS is definitely in that 2. I think he a Lalor present as the best prospects. There are numerous queries around the others. The most anyone can say against FOS is "but he had a few injuries this year, is he injury prone", even though those injuries were impact rather than soft tissue (fingers / hips etc).

I know others have speculated around players like Smillie, for mine, he has way more risk than FOS and I'd be hesitant to use any pick in the top 10 on him personally.

For me, he's in the 3rd tier of the group. I think there is a top 2, then a 5, then about 15 or so in the next group, and then another group behind them. Some on here would prefer us taking 2 in the tier 3 to tier 4 group as 2 is better than 1, when we have an opportunity to take that top tier player.

Thanks Mr P. 2025 will be an amazing ride if we can somehow land a FOS/Lalor double and retain a minimum of 7 picks in the top 24.

 

[year of the tiger]

a If North are selling pick 2 + F1 for 6 and 11 I think you have to pull the trigger.

Pick 2 should be a 200-300 game player.

North are supposedly also looking to sell 2 home games next year to WA, that would mean they travel west at least 3 times and maybe 4. I just can’t see them winning any of those games.

I can’t see them winning enough games to get outside the bottom 4 - 6 next year even with the blokes they picked up in the trade period.

Yes I would do that 100% only and only if we traded #1 to Melbourne of #5 and #9

I could see that happening tbh