Trade Week - Richmond Only

[mrposhman]

Very interesting idea.

What do we lose?
I,m keen on 10 and 11 because we could get 2 of Lindsay, Allen, Berry, Travaglia. Or Armstrong.
But it sounds like XL might head to St K. And the others are possibly only part time mids. Good players but probably solid mids at best.
Or a key forward, but there is a dozen waiting at 18.
And pick 23 has scope but its likely to be an outside mid/flanker, which we get each draft. I'd have Moraes as the example.


What do we gain?
Getting p2 and keeping 1 and 6 would likely give us 3 of Lalor FoS Jagpipes Draper Langford.
Three!

And some doofus from the lazy 25 class.


Lalor FoS Langford f6
Or
Lalor Langford Allan Berry Moraes

I'm in

Thats my thinking too. I'd love to get Berry, we might get lucky at 18, but the class that we would get at the top of the draft and maybe we got that top line tall next year with Norths F1, next year at the moment sounds like there are a few more talls at the top end, could obviously change, but getting the mid sorted with 4 of Lalor, FOS, Smith, Langford and Dyson Sharp next year, is IMO way too good to pass up.

As we know its the pure mids that win premierships, the outside mids are part of the setup, but the core for winning a premiership comes from inside mids, and we would have a great opportunity to nail that in 2 drafts, along with as you say add talls or some small forwards (Berry maybe, Hannaford, Dattoli) in that 18-24 range.

 

[Dyer'ere]

If North were ok with 6 and 11 for 2 and F1, would ...

If it were really on the table, wouldn't that deal already be done, MrP?

The thrust of the recent HS article is that NM wouldn't part with the 2025R1.

 

[The_General]

Not sure about blue ribbon but thought Fawcett really showed something when he was finally able to get on the park towards the end of the season. Attacks the contest and has a very high IQ.
Saying that, I also thought Archie May did too but he’s now left and playing in the SAFL next season so I might not be the best judge.

So you're willing to relent in thevJVR v Brown stakes then? Awesome. I knew it'd just be a war of attrition. Hopefully catch you for a peace beverage someday soon

 

[turk-d-tiger]

Sounds great, but I'm not sure you'd advance picks 23 n 24 into the early picks of next years draft. Reckon clubs would want some large sweeteners to risk a pick around 6 to 12 next year for 23 or 24 this year. Doubt there'd be anything more valuable lateish first round next year than late first round this year.

Then we dont trade and take our picks in the draft

Im finding it really hard to find a club that would be happy to trade a pick prior to GWS #15 for futures unless its a clear overs trade
There will be 4- 5 clubs looking to move their future 1st into this years draft

 

[HKTigerB]

Not sure about blue ribbon but thought Fawcett really showed something when he was finally able to get on the park towards the end of the season. Attacks the contest and has a very high IQ.
Saying that, I also thought Archie May did too but he’s now left and playing in the SAFL next season so I might not be the best judge.

Agree on the Tap. Really showed some AFL traits, Marking at the highest point, good body strength, good kicking skills, some speed, etc. I'm guessing you need two solid prospects so you'd draft at least one KPF in the first round this year.

Just a slight update, Archie has gone to Subiaco in the WAFL. Interestingly, he is not listed as having nominated for the draft so that move looks set.

 

[ceehook2]

Agree on the Tap. Really showed some AFL traits, Marking at the highest point, good body strength, good kicking skills, some speed, etc. I'm guessing you need two solid prospects so you'd draft at least one KPF in the first round this year.

Just a slight update, Archie has gone to Subiaco in the WAFL. Interestingly, he is not listed as having nominated for the draft so that move looks set.

I wonder if Mini was in his ear ? Have a good year in the WAFL and .....

 

[Leysy Days]

Yeah, Blair has said we're open to anything, but was reported as saying we'd not accept sliding backwards to get pick 3 from West Coast. I couldn't imagine pick 2 would be much different.

Blair is keeping the poker face up. We have nothing to lose. If we dont get 2, North either take Tauru early, or they take a mid and Tauru gets taken by Melb. Either way, a really good player is falling to 6. Maybe Langford, maybe Smillie.
We will get another good mid in 25, one that hopefully can contribute as a game breaker. Lalor and Langford would be a good start this year. Throw in Reid or another mid type at 10/11, there's a core.

Jesus the draft is taking forever.

Be amazed if Melbourne go tall at pick 5.

They have far more pressing needs in other areas. particularly the midfield.

It would potentially leave Tauru available to us at 6 if we have that pick. Reports are we're keen on him as well.

There's the key forward you've been posting about and clearly the only one worth taking talent wise inside the top 12 ILO.

 

[Leysy Days]

Then we dont trade and take our picks in the draft

Im finding it really hard to find a club that would be happy to trade a pick prior to GWS #15 for futures unless its a clear overs trade
There will be 4- 5 clubs looking to move their future 1st into this years draft

100% Turkish Bread.

For a number of reasons we are going to get some truly fantastic offers for all our picks.

Expecting F1's will be offered for every one of them on the night.

Blair just needs to sit back, watch them come in and cherry pick the best to move a pick or two into next year.

 

[doodle]

Fawcett looked great.
Thought he was taps as

untapped talent has the kid

 

[DuD_Delist]

Sounds great, but I'm not sure you'd advance picks 23 n 24 into the early picks of next years draft. Reckon clubs would want some large sweeteners to risk a pick around 6 to 12 next year for 23 or 24 this year. Doubt there'd be anything more valuable lateish first round next year than late first round this year.

Depends on who it is.
Geelongs F1 might be tasty.

 

[DuD_Delist]

My feeling is that if we do any trading of picks pre draft it will only be for North's pick 2 and I have no idea if we will do that. You would suspect the deal will have to be a good one.
I reckon we will go into the draft night with 7 or 8 picks and only trade picks on the night if the deal is a compelling one. That way we will know who is still available and be able to make a more informed judgement.
Being prepared to use all our 2024 picks gives us maximum flexibility to say no, we are the ones in the driver's seat because we have the picks others want.
Blair and his team are going to be very busy that night for sure.

Blair Draft Night.

Redirect Notice

 

[The_General]

Be amazed if Melbourne go tall at pick 5.

They have far more pressing needs in other areas. particularly the midfield.

It would potentially leave Tauru available to us at 6 if we have that pick. Reports are we're keen on him as well.

There's the key forward you've been posting about and clearly the only one worth taking talent wise inside the top 12 ILO.

I don't think Melbourne need another big inside mid though. They have Viney, Petracca and Oliver, but not a lot of outside class and speed. They could get that type of player at the next pick.
They do have the 5th worst points for average, and their forward line is abysmal.
Van Rooyen can't do it all, and he's looking more serviceable key forward than star. Of course that could change, but I wouldn't be put all my eggs in that basket.
Based on the info around. Fast, aggressive, competitive key forward, with accurate kicking. Needs to work on endurance to stay in games more consistently. Sounds like his got the basics and will improve in an AFL environment. Armstrong at 10 or 11? I wouldn't think that's a reach.
(nb as I've said elsewhere, I don't get to live games, so rely on this).

 

[Sintiger]

Blair Draft night

Looks that way. We may have to employ a call centre to handle all the phone calls coming in

It’s unprecedented having one club with so many early picks and having live trading of picks as well. I wonder what the previous highest number was, probably 2-3?

 

[No 4]

foxtel has smith as our number pick?

 

[DuD_Delist]

Looks that way. We may have to employ a call centre to handle all the phone calls coming in

He'll earn his pay packet.lol

 

[Leysy Days]

I don't think Melbourne need another big inside mid though. They have Viney, Petracca and Oliver, but not a lot of outside class and speed. They could get that type of player at the next pick.
They do have the 5th worst points for average, and their forward line is abysmal.
Van Rooyen can't do it all, and he's looking more serviceable key forward than star. Of course that could change, but I wouldn't be put all my eggs in that basket.
Based on the info around. Fast, aggressive, competitive key forward, with accurate kicking. Needs to work on endurance to stay in games more consistently. Sounds like his got the basics and will improve in an AFL environment. Armstrong at 10 or 11? I wouldn't think that's a reach.
(nb as I've said elsewhere, I don't get to live games, so rely on this).

Viney 31 start of next year. Petracca 29 (with question marks on body and mind and Oliver also with pretty big question marks getting back anywhere his best.

They've also lost Brayshaw earlier than expected. Suddenly they are left with not a lot currently there nor coming through.

They've also invested pretty heavily in talls early in drafts recently - JVR, Jefferson, Adams etc. Plus Turner looks OK.

Tauru is a huge talent and they may go best available and take him at 5 (let's hope they don't and he gets to us), but that midfield is a more pressing need ILO.

 

[The_General]

Viney 31 start of next year. Petracca 29 (with question marks on body and mind and Oliver also with pretty big question marks getting back anywhere his best.

They've also lost Brayshaw earlier than expected. Suddenly they are left with not a lot currently there nor coming through.

They've also invested pretty heavily in talls early in drafts recently - JVR, Jefferson, Adams etc. Plus Turner looks OK.

Tauru is a huge talent and they may go best available and take him at 5 (let's hope they don't and he gets to us), but that midfield is a more pressing need ILO.

Can understand your position LD, just think key forwards who contribute are harder to find, hence why it's not out of the question they go big, as there'll be mids at later picks.
Either way, I hope whatever they do, we become the beneficiaries of. Think the cursed pick 6 isn't too bad a position in this draft.

 

[Leysy Days]

Can understand your position LD, just think key forwards who contribute are harder to find, hence why it's not out of the question they go big, as there'll be mids at later picks.
Either way, I hope whatever they do, we become the beneficiaries of. Think the cursed pick 6 isn't too bad a position in this draft.

Yeah it's in a fantastic position, hence no huge need to trade up from it unless a great deal comes along.

We'll get to land either a sliding mid or the best key forward (The Viking).

 

[Sintiger]

Think the cursed pick 6 isn't too bad a position in this draft.

Luckily Melbourne will have it after the Ashcroft bid. We will have pick 7

 

[Brodders17]

Yeah it's in a fantastic position, hence no huge need to trade up from it unless a great deal comes along.

We'll get to land either a sliding mid or the best key forward (The Viking).

I want to get pick 2 cos i think there is a standout 3 for the draft (maybe 4 with Draper), and i doubt any will get to 6. But, yes, we dont need to be, and clearly arent, desperate to trade up, which puts us in a great position, where we may end up getting a great offer from North, such as including their F1.