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The Pros and Cons of Tanking (Merged)

Whats more important late season Wins or Early Draft pics?

  • Draft pics (inc priority pic)

    Votes: 98 56.6%
  • Late Season Wins

    Votes: 75 43.4%

  • Total voters
    173
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

DirtyDogTiger said:
if we'd won againt North (we had it) and against Port (had that one too) we would be 1 win out of the top 8 this evening

It's facts like that which make me want the Top 8 to be reduced to the Top 6 for finals berths.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Baloo said:
It's facts like that which make me want the Top 8 to be reduced to the Top 6 for finals berths.

And the first year they do that we will finish 7th! ;D

Will never happen now with the new teams and TV rights.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

I believe we can win all our remaining games.

I also believe we will climb another position on the ladder before the year is out.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

We had to lose yesterday, McMuffin wrecked everything. If Melbourne lost I have no doubt they would've have lost to Freo or North and effectivley lost their first-round pick. Would've helped us greatly. This club keeps making the same mistakes over and over again and it's the reason why we will never be successful.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Barnzy said:
We had to lose yesterday, McMuffin wrecked everything. If Melbourne lost I have no doubt they would've have lost to Freo or North and effectivley lost their first-round pick. Would've helped us greatly. This club keeps making the same mistakes over and over again and it's the reason why we will never be successful.

The tanking ship sailed for us a few weeks ago. There's no point losing games now. The steaks are mich higher for the demons on the other hand. When Mcmahon took the mark, the loudest cheer in Q4 came from my demon-supporting mate :hihi
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

we were a chance for scully had we lost. A gun junior, potintial A grader who is a mad tiger fan. Us on 4.5 wins, north on 4.5 wins, melourne on 4, eagles on 4 and froe on 4.

as usual we can see no further than our nose.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

It was a must lose game. Stuff beating Melbourne. Who cares?

The only way to get Scully now is to cheat.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

mad_doggy911 said:
It was a must lose game. Stuff beating Melbourne. Who cares?

The only way to get Scully now is to cheat.

Or bring back Wally
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

martyshire said:
The tanking ship sailed for us a few weeks ago. There's no point losing games now. The steaks are mich higher for the demons on the other hand. When Mcmahon took the mark, the loudest cheer in Q4 came from my demon-supporting mate :hihi
it may have sailed for some but i believe we need to aim for as early a pick as possible. we could quite easily still finish 14th and land picks 4. 21 37 53 69 85. may even have something worth taking with pick 4 in the psd just maybe.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

mad_doggy911 said:
It was a must lose game. Stuff beating Melbourne. Who cares?

The only way to get Scully now is to cheat.

We were no *smile* chance for Scully, god I thought we were over this tanking *smile* when we lost the chance for a PP but no now we should tank to improve our draft position probably 1 place, if they bring in a lottery there will be calls to tank from idiots like you to improve our chances of getting the no. 1 pick, when will it stop. Read my LIPS WE ARE NOT GOING TO TANK to marginally improve our position so stop boring the rest of us with this crap.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

IanG said:
We were no *smile*ing chance for Scully, god I thought we were over this tanking *smile* when we lost the chance for a PP but no now we should tank to improve our draft position probably 1 place, if they bring in a lottery there will be calls to tank from idiots like you to improve our chances of getting the no. 1 pick, when will it stop. Read my LIPS WE ARE NOT GOING TO TANK to marginally improve our position so stop boring the rest of us with this crap.

Good post. Well said.

Get the *smile* over it tankers. What's done is done and no amount of pissing and moaning will change it.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Just been playing with the AFL ladder predictor and worked out that the Tiges can make the finals !

As long as a few results fall our way
Tiges sneak in on 9.5 wins eg Port, Haw to finish on 9 wins, Ess & Syd on 8 wins.. (includes a couple of upset wins ;D )

I say the club continues to strive & win. Maybe lady luck falls our way !

:gotigers

I am not giving up yet ! :hihi
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Al Bundy said:
Just been playing with the AFL ladder predictor and worked out that the Tiges can make the finals !

As long as a few results fall our way
Tiges sneak in on 9.5 wins eg Port, Haw to finish on 9 wins, Ess & Syd on 8 wins.. (includes a couple of upset wins ;D )

I say the club continues to strive & win. Maybe lady luck falls our way !

:gotigers

I am not giving up yet ! :hihi

Bookies have not been lisiting a price on us making the 8 for some weeks now. Go and get a quote on it.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Tigers of Old said:
I look forward with interest as to how Cameron now expects to 'invest heavily in the draft'.

He can only mean trading for picks. Not sure who has any currency though - apart from getting multiple picks for a big name, a Deledio or Cotchin.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Freezer said:
He can only mean trading for picks. Not sure who has any currency though - apart from getting multiple picks for a big name, a Deledio or Cotchin.

Well that's the problem, how are we going to get extra selections?

Some very tough calls are going to need to be made if we're to gain picks the year before GC17.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Tigers of Old said:
Well that's the problem, how are we going to get extra selections?

Some very tough calls are going to need to be made if we're to gain picks the year before GC17.

Too true.

Maybe a 2nd rounder for Cousins? ;D
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Tigers of Old said:
I look forward with interest as to how Cameron now expects to 'invest heavily in the draft'.

He'll retire, delist and trade whoever he can, within reason. Then he will go to the Draft table with 7 or 8 picks and that will be a heavy investment by any measure.

Johnson, Bowden, Simmonds, Brown, Polak and Coughlan will all retire, in all likelihood, JON, Schulz and Hughes will be moved on, regardless of whether there is any interest. At least one of Raines, McMahon or King will be traded if possible.

It won't matter if they pick up extra early picks or not. Going by most seasons, there are plenty of reasonable players taken in the late rounds or in the rookie draft.

What wil be a problem this year is the Rookie Draft. With a reduced pool, it is quite likely that there won't be much on offer in terms of 18 year olds.

They should be looking to keep as many second year rookies as possible and then look to the VFL, SANFL, WAFL for a couple of 20-22 year olds to round out the list. There might also be a few rookies or younger players who are delisted by their club with a view to putting back on the rookie list, who can be targetted.

Investing in the draft doesn't necessarily mean chasing a poultice of 18 year-olds. There are plenty of 19,20,21,22 year-olds desperate for an opportunity to play AFL.

You could make a very good AFL side out of these players alone, it would include the likes of Dale Morris, Matthew Boyd, Priddis, Porplyzia, Vince, Nahas, Skipworth, Armfield, Patfull, Lovett, Lovett-Murray, Ben Hudson, Zac Dawson, amongst plenty of others.
 
Re: To win or not to win - Draft pics V late season wins

Agree TOT

Even some small or large upgrades would be great
CC will hopefully try anything to improve our draft position

Note: This is not a tanking debate ;)