Yet in time it might be recognized that their greatest achievement of this era was to prevent Richmond from winning what is already now at least four consecutive premierships.
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The I ❤️ Collingwood thread.
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We have Buckley to thank for that.
Lynch wanted to keep their meeting hush hush but I think Buckley then confirmed they met while Lynch was in Melb to see a specialist in relation to his knee?
Whereas we kept things quiet.
Going by memory though.
Someone can confirm the events.
I will take the 3 champ.
Im sick and tired, when they constantly use that night and they lost a GF 'by under a kick' as a form of recognition.
Thats Collingwoods history a book full of excuses and plastic achivements..
Fast becoming a rabble, is Collingwood.
Will make for a most interesting pre-season for its playing group.
Will make for a most interesting pre-season for its playing group.
I don't know what I enjoyed more - the ones sticking it to Bucks, or the ones sticking by him
hahaha
Wouldn't surprise me if part of this salary dump is to have a crack at a few free agents in 2021...
Cripps
Bontempelli
Josh Kelly
Merrett
Cripps
Bontempelli
Josh Kelly
Merrett
Yes, but that have previously had trouble attracting "the big fish", this disaster is not going to make it any easier.
They'll promise prospective players the world, but they'll know that they'll only get an atlas.
After the way they have treated Treloar and Stephenson any gun free agent would be mad to go to Scumwood.
Good luck trying to back end contracts in the future Ned
For Collingwods good he should have stayed with MMM and quit the Presidency. For the rest of us he has made the right call.
Listened to some of Eddie on Triple M this morning and he was the typical spin machine, We have a salary cap blah blah blah, nothing about how they got into this.
I was thinking (and TBR may be able top back up) as to why it seems the salary cap issue is only biting them this hard. I 've heard various things about the CBA allowing for salaries to increase in line with the TPP (which provides protection for the player in that their salary will go up if the cap does, but also provides protection for the club if the cap decreases). I wonder if the Pies have played with this to make it seem like their offers are higher. For example, they could state their contract is worth $800k / year (but have a clause that removes the up / down with the TPP) compared to a $700k / annum contract elsewhere. With an annualised 7% for 5 years, the contract value is the same at $4m assuming the cap always goes up.
This would answer why the Pies have been found out, ie. their TPP will reduce by 10%, but if none of their salaries are coming down, they are immediately over the cap by $1.3m assuming they paid 100% of the cap in 2020. If other clubs included this in their cap, then TPP goes down by 10%, so does every salary and hence no real issue.
It's essentially very similar to the GFC, always assuming things only go up, when that flips and they go down its like a house of cards, it will all come tumbling down.
I was thinking (and TBR may be able top back up) as to why it seems the salary cap issue is only biting them this hard. I 've heard various things about the CBA allowing for salaries to increase in line with the TPP (which provides protection for the player in that their salary will go up if the cap does, but also provides protection for the club if the cap decreases). I wonder if the Pies have played with this to make it seem like their offers are higher. For example, they could state their contract is worth $800k / year (but have a clause that removes the up / down with the TPP) compared to a $700k / annum contract elsewhere. With an annualised 7% for 5 years, the contract value is the same at $4m assuming the cap always goes up.
This would answer why the Pies have been found out, ie. their TPP will reduce by 10%, but if none of their salaries are coming down, they are immediately over the cap by $1.3m assuming they paid 100% of the cap in 2020. If other clubs included this in their cap, then TPP goes down by 10%, so does every salary and hence no real issue.
It's essentially very similar to the GFC, always assuming things only go up, when that flips and they go down its like a house of cards, it will all come tumbling down.
The Trump comparisons look closer with every passing day mate.
J R Ewing must be his manager.
I think Dogs have pulled off a coup with the treloar deal.
However we feel about his list assessment skills and personal style
Hes a very good player. Objectively, hes prestia-good. And dogs have him for cheap
Ned Guy has been list manager since 2017. Collingwood say he was brought in to fix up the mess. Surely they're not implying Neil Balme caused it?
This is like the Collingwood-Richmond war of the 80's, except Collingwood's at war with itself.
This is like the Collingwood-Richmond war of the 80's, except Collingwood's at war with itself.
Will be very interesting if we find out how much of Treloar's salary is still being paid by Collingwood, this is the kicker. Surely they must be stumping up a fair bit as no club would be paying him $900K which was only that high as he took less over a couple of years.
Same applies to some of the others they are offloading.
Hope they enjoy keeping Cox, the fact no club took him is indicative of his value.
DS
Nice spin by Collingwood, nice story and all, but all of the 3 who have gone were signed under Ned Guy. Dayne Beams was also recruited under Ned Guy. Big contracts to Moore and Grundy also Ned Guy.
They can keep the spin flowing, its actually funny how much they are trying to spin and not even there own are buying it.
The mail was that the Dogs were only willing to offer Tredders what they believed he should deserve now i.e. $600k. So the Skunks to stump up the extra $300k over the next 5 years. Totally fair because it's just the money he's owed from the back-ending he allowed to help them out. It's just what they owe him. Why would the dogs agree to pay it. The clue is also that they managed to keep Dunkley.
Another example is Phillips. The Dawks (and I guessed they would do this) played it very shrewdly. Showed interest; tested CFC out; saw what an overpaid deal he was on, so told them no way. Of course, then slunk back late when he is still on the table and Skunks are real desperate. I think the view is the Dawks took him on that deal over two years, so CFC would be paying half for the next and final year of his contract with them. Or something like that.
Either way, CFC still paying, although did get to dump!
He was a player manager before that (Jake Lever, Devon Smith) so maybe his background caused him to be too generous? They should've at least had an accountant sit with him.
