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Team changes v Port

AMPS said:
I know you didn't. You constantly criticised posters on overstating mcbeans ability and made a supportive statement about dimmas love of Morris. I think you've got it wrong. That's ok isn't it?
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I never supported Dimmas stance on Morris. I'd personally rather Madonna. My argument is that people want Dimma to view Morris' stats, not his perceived"impact" as a reason to drop him from the side. However some of those same people don't want Dimma to look at McBeans stats and view his impact. The double standards shown are quite astounding.
 
Tigertool said:
I never supported Dimmas stance on Morris. I'd personally rather Madonna. My argument is that people want Dimma to view Morris' stats, not his perceived"impact" as a reason to drop him from the side. However some of those same people don't want Dimma to look at McBeans stats and view his impact. The double standards shown are quite astounding.
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Do you think Morris should be played?
 
AMPS said:
Do you think Morris should be played?
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My argument is the double standards, not Morris.

Note where I said I'd rather Madonna then Morris in the first sentence.
 
I reckon the double standards call is a bit harsh. People aren't calling for Morris to go because his stats are bad, it is because they don't like the way he plays.
 
mld said:
I reckon the double standards call is a bit harsh. People aren't calling for Morris to go because his stats are bad, it is because they don't like the way he plays.
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There are some saying his stats are rubbish, but Dimma thinks his contribution isn't quatified by stats. But some pf those same people want McBean in, not off stats, but off how they believe the impacts the game. I can't see how it isn't double standards.
 
Tigertool said:
There are some saying his stats are rubbish, but Dimma thinks his contribution isn't quatified by stats. But some pf those same people want McBean in, not off stats, but off how they believe the impacts the game. I can't see how it isn't double standards.
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You have won this argument. Double standards by posters on this forum is pathetic.
 
shawry said:
You have won this argument. Double standards by posters on this forum is pathetic.
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Thank you, Shawry. I was beginning to think I was on my own.
 
Tigertool said:
Thank you, Shawry. I was beginning to think I was on my own.
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Win? Didn't realise I was competing, just didn't agree with where he was coming from. Still don't, weird declarations of victory notwithstanding.
 
Tigertool said:
There are some saying his stats are rubbish, but Dimma thinks his contribution isn't quatified by stats. But some pf those same people want McBean in, not off stats, but off how they believe the impacts the game. I can't see how it isn't double standards.
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Guess it's how you think they impacted the game. I thought mcbeans was mostly positive, creative and full of potential. To be encouraged. Morrises is characterised by late arrivals, fierce flapping and wasted energy - all my opinion.

Dimma is of the opposite view as are many on PRE.
 
Coburgtiger said:
Don't even get me started on why Menadue is in....
Shown nothing yet in the VFL. Showed nothing last week in the AFL.

If i'm McBean or McDonough, I'm buggering off at the end of the year to a side that actually rewards hard work and form. No wonder White left.

WTF happened to earning a spot in the side? What's the point in having competition for spots if you completely ignore that competition, and just choose whoever the hell you feel like at the time?

McBean, McDonough, Elton, can't do much more than they've done at reserve level. Menadue hasn't done squat. Morris has been underperforming all year.

What incentive is there to work hard if working hard doesn't get you anywhere? Does it help Menadue to be gifted games he's not ready for, then when he struggles for a couple of weeks, he'll get rubber stamped as no good like Elton, and McDonough before him (both brought in to the side before the ready and with no form) and then be banished to the reserves for three years.
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Menadue was brilliant against Geelong in the VFL and kicked two goals the week after. He is the exact type critics say Hardwick is too conservative to play. He's probably not ready yet but what he has over McDonough is pace, running power and kicking penetration. They're not competing for the same spot - Donuts is showing himself to be a goal kicking clearance mid; Dimma has picked Menadue with an eye to running Port off their legs like Brisbane did last week.

McDonough has played this year and he'll get another chance soon if he keeps performing.
 
Since day one Dimma has valued character, leadership, and application of physical and mental pressure on the opposition.

These are traits anybody can perform.

In other words, you don't have to be talented to succeed in Dimma's system. This has it's pros and cons, but ultimately I like it because it forces the more talented types to actually defend and it rewards good character which inevitably improves the culture of the club in the long-term. I feel we've always had talented players but lacked leadership and all-round hardness. If Morris can force the current young players to match his intensity, then Dimma has succeeded in the long run by playing with 21 men each week.
 
AMPS said:
Definitely not there are a lot of you non-believers
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How about quitting the personal stuff and baiting and instead discuss actual opinions?
 
Chimptastic said:
Since day one Dimma has valued character, leadership, and application of physical and mental pressure on the opposition.

These are traits anybody can perform.

In other words, you don't have to be talented to succeed in Dimma's system. This has it's pros and cons, but ultimately I like it because it forces the more talented types to actually defend and it rewards good character which inevitably improves the culture of the club in the long-term. I feel we've always had talented players but lacked leadership and all-round hardness. If Morris can force the current young players to match his intensity, then Dimma has succeeded in the long run by playing with 21 men each week.
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Brilliant post and spot on.
 
Chimptastic said:
Since day one Dimma has valued character, leadership, and application of physical and mental pressure on the opposition.

These are traits anybody can perform.

In other words, you don't have to be talented to succeed in Dimma's system.
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Succeed, I think means against other teams, not against reserves players.

Change 'succeed' to 'play' and I agree.
 
mld said:
Win? Didn't realise I was competing, just didn't agree with where he was coming from. Still don't, weird declarations of victory notwithstanding.
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Not looking for a win, was thanking the support. No one else seemed to notice what I was arguing.
 
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