And you're still dangling your hard-earned mudcake over the corpse of a poor Ethiopian girl.Liverpool said:
Liverpoolism in practise. :
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Talking Politics
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Curtis,
If you want to debate something I have said, and use the 'quotonator", then thats fine.
But don't go around inventing quotes, o.k?
Its childish.
Secondly, I'm still waiting for that answer.....you're weaving and dodging more than Deledio on a Friday night against the Crows, at the moment.
If you want to debate something I have said, and use the 'quotonator", then thats fine.
But don't go around inventing quotes, o.k?
Its childish.
Secondly, I'm still waiting for that answer.....you're weaving and dodging more than Deledio on a Friday night against the Crows, at the moment.
poppa x said:
By that logic, Costello's budget is a stalinist plot.
You being way to simplistic.
First, the example of handing out 10 buck notes is a furphy, and a hoary old chestnut along with it. (Just as liverpools 'all poor people deserve it' is a hoary old chestnut to justify selfishness and greed. As I posted, he appointed a panel of experts to work out the best way to design programmes to spend the money on.
I'd like to see a middle ground system, like I said, people can be wealthy, just not obscenely, lost all touch with reality wealthy. Some kind of social capitalism. Unfortunately, for me at least, we have a long way to go. We are actually going backwards. People getting greedier.
Most important of all is that for it to work people would have to want to do it. You can't stongarm people into it. To believe that helping others warrants their continued application of the energy and creativity that made them rich. I do see signs that its beginning to happen though. I'm a born optomist.
I think you are also overlooking one important fact.
If some capitalists, many moons ago (eg: Tattersalls) failed to get a profitable lottery business up and running then the kiwi bloke would not have won his $30 million.
If some capitalists, many moons ago (eg: Tattersalls) failed to get a profitable lottery business up and running then the kiwi bloke would not have won his $30 million.
poppa x said:
The kiwi bloke didn’t win his money in the lottery pop rock, it came from shares in his son's internet start up that went beserk and was bought by Fairfax. But I take your point. As I’ve said pop, I love capitalism, I’m a natural capo, capo with commie rising as my mum says, capitalism ability to generate resources is amazing. I love doing a deal and making some dough.
But capitalism also creates losers, the majority of whom through no fault of their own. I just wish the winners from capitalism could turn their energies to other things than money once they have enough of it.
Workchoices is getting a new name - even - Johnny and his mate Joe are finally realising it is far too swayed towords the employers.
I wonder if it will be the same (workchoices) legislation just with a new title?
Our Prime Minister certainly listens to thepolls people!
I wonder if it will be the same (workchoices) legislation just with a new title?
Our Prime Minister certainly listens to the
It always amuses me how when the public agrees with the government line its all ‘oh you can’t fool the public, the Australian people are very smart and very good at assessing the options and making informed choices’.
But when the public disagrees with the government line its all ‘oh Labor and the unions have run a multi-gazzillion dollar campaign which had hoodwinked the gullible Australian public, they aren't that bright you know’.
Both sides do it, but its so bloody transparent and predictable.
But when the public disagrees with the government line its all ‘oh Labor and the unions have run a multi-gazzillion dollar campaign which had hoodwinked the gullible Australian public, they aren't that bright you know’.
Both sides do it, but its so bloody transparent and predictable.
It is another example of how Labor under Rudd are governing from opposition. They adopt a strong standpoint on IR or education for example and the government are forced to adopt aspects of the policy for themselves.
It is interesting to hear that the term 'WorkChoices' has been dropped from government usage as it is a poisoned brand.
It is interesting to hear that the term 'WorkChoices' has been dropped from government usage as it is a poisoned brand.
Yeah Andy thats another thing. The government has a sook about the unions spending their dough on an advertising campaign, but the amount of OUR money this government has funnelled to their mates at Scatchi and Scaatchi or Singo or whoever in the name of informing the public when everybody knows its political advertising, its an outrage.
The big Sydney advertising firms would have doubled, maybe even tripled their profits on this government.
The big Sydney advertising firms would have doubled, maybe even tripled their profits on this government.
tigersnake said:
I think Singo's agency handles mostly labor advertising and he's got very rich off his mates such as hawke and keating.
couldn't care which side is doping it pop, its wrong. Singo plays both sides like good businessmen do.
Its been well documented that government advertising has rocketted under Howard. I for forget the exact increase but its staggering. I'm not sure if its still the case but at one statge the fed gov was the biggest or second biggest advertiser in Aus. If there were less of them, and if they were actually informative, you could make a case.
If Rudd gets in he'll probably continue the trend. Which I'll still say is wrong. Its political advertising and taxpayers shouldn't be paying for it.
Its been well documented that government advertising has rocketted under Howard. I for forget the exact increase but its staggering. I'm not sure if its still the case but at one statge the fed gov was the biggest or second biggest advertiser in Aus. If there were less of them, and if they were actually informative, you could make a case.
If Rudd gets in he'll probably continue the trend. Which I'll still say is wrong. Its political advertising and taxpayers shouldn't be paying for it.
Anduril said:
tigersnake said:
Ladies and Gents,
Not bad, eh?
Nielsen reckons that Mr Bracks has transferred $51 million of our money into the pockets of Packer, Stokes, Murdoch, Fairfax shareholders and so on in the year from August 2000 to July 2001 - and, at the end of July, the real spending had not even begun.
On those figures, the Victorian Government is the nation's 12th-biggest spender on advertising. The NSW and Queensland governments are even more profligate with their citizens' money and the Federal Government frittered away $116 million on blowing its own bags in the same period. Good news for the media moguls - more than $300 million a year straight from us to them.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/26/1035504923363.html
And this back in 2002....AND from that lefty-rag, "The Age"....so you can imagine what the true figures are, eh?
But no...its all Howard....Bracks wouldn't do such a thing, would he.... :-X
Hey Livers? Lay off Steve. He's never done anything wrong. Can't have. "cos he never does anything :rofl
You're a bit hard of hearing liverpool, state, feds, labor, liberal, if its excessive aimed a blowing their own horn, ie political, its wrong, full stop. I remember reading that article, and others like it. You can imaging those agencies giving a really competitive quote and working long hours on a cutting edge campaign when they see a government rep walk in the door right? Money for jam.
Not all debates are Labor v Liberal, matter of fact most aren't, but it seems to be your single mode of thought.
Not all debates are Labor v Liberal, matter of fact most aren't, but it seems to be your single mode of thought.
