Compare Stengle to Stack
Give me a break
Take Covid out of this, he has done nothing wrong.
Covid wasn't a word 12 month's ago.
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Compare Stengle to Stack
Give me a break
Take Covid out of this, he has done nothing wrong.
Covid wasn't a word 12 month's ago.
Might be moving in with Dimma.
Tigers could take chance on Stack
Richmond is poised to invite gun WA junior Stack to train at the club in the coming weeks, with an eye to recruiting him as a rookie if he impresses.www.perthnow.com.au
Maybe we should return to the very first post in this thread for a solution?
This is true
He has done the wrong thing but unlike others still listed elsewhere he isn't charged with sexual assault and he hasn't been caught with drugs. In the end this is a club matter so imo let's just leave it to the players and the club to sort out.
If the players in particular are supportive of helping him redeem himself then as a member and supporter that's perfectly fine with me.
What‘s he doing at nightclubs to make guys want to punch him so much?
Ignoring the covid thing, he‘s come back to training unfit on 3 occasions, and his fitness will only regress further over the Christmas break.
Purely on performance, he’s unlikely to be best 22 early in the season. He’ll need to cope with that with or without VFL and hubs. Difficult time to learn new habits.
As hard as he worked to prove everyone wrong in 2019, he’s now proving them all right. It’s hard to comprehend the weight of that from the outside.
Ignoring the covid thing, he‘s come back to training unfit on 3 occasions, and his fitness will only regress further over the Christmas break.
Purely on performance, he’s unlikely to be best 22 early in the season. He’ll need to cope with that with or without VFL and hubs. Difficult time to learn new habits.
As hard as he worked to prove everyone wrong in 2019, he’s now proving them all right. It’s hard to comprehend the weight of that from the outside.
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Richmond has how current premiership players who started as rookies?
Add to that the leadership group who seem to have found great balance with football and quality of life.
I understand Richmond backing themselves to turn Stack into a long term professional footballer by being surrounded by these teammates.
It seems Stack is addicted to the social limelight, and in doing so exposes himself and makes himself a target.
Some guys take years to settle, usually finding a good girl/starting a family.
Some guys just never completely settle.
Of most concern to me is to hear that Stack has not maintained minimum physical condition.
That is a non negotiable, and a slap in the face for his teammates, coaches and support groups at the club.
Add to that the leadership group who seem to have found great balance with football and quality of life.
I understand Richmond backing themselves to turn Stack into a long term professional footballer by being surrounded by these teammates.
It seems Stack is addicted to the social limelight, and in doing so exposes himself and makes himself a target.
Some guys take years to settle, usually finding a good girl/starting a family.
Some guys just never completely settle.
Of most concern to me is to hear that Stack has not maintained minimum physical condition.
That is a non negotiable, and a slap in the face for his teammates, coaches and support groups at the club.
Probably someone that knows a lot more about Stack than any of us do, the below couple of paragraphs from that article echo my own thoughts and fears exactly.
For Ablett, the most pressing concern for Richmond, other than Stack’s welfare, would be the cultural ramifications at the club and any impressionable young teammates.
“The question you have to ask yourself is, ‘Are they going to take anyone else down with them and if so how many?’ That’s the greatest concern - you’ve got the commercial aspect and the other aspect is how much damage are they going to do to other players,” he said.
“I think the club is in a very difficult position. If it was a one-off I think you forgive and try and educate, but when it could be now twice I’d be really concerned and with the type of culture they’ve created I don’t think they’re going to stand for much more.”
Yes, the concerning thing is that it’s a pattern of behaviour, and making bad decisions.
im going to back the club in on this one , my initial reaction was to give him the boot , but im probably a bit old school when it comes to discipline
But there will be people at the club with a better feel for what should be done than I do , and with our recent history of culture and decision making , and them knowing Sydney well , im comfortable with leaving it up to them to make the right call .
But there will be people at the club with a better feel for what should be done than I do , and with our recent history of culture and decision making , and them knowing Sydney well , im comfortable with leaving it up to them to make the right call .
Point b) is a hard enough issue for us posters to have to deal with on PRE!!
I've always been good for a laugh because people know I'll rise to the bait like clockwork when they criticise Richmond. Funny how they don't talk about footy much these days.
6 plus Chol and Aarts who have been around the best 22 as well.
Baker, castagna, Short, Soldo, Lambert and Pickett
Would we now be regarded as the club to have been the most successful with rookies?
We have all got mates who are great blokes but some of them turn into d>>kheads once you add alcohol.
Hawthorn and Sydney have had 6 as well. Collingwood and Bulldogs 5. Matthew Boyd took 13 years to go from rookie to premiership player.
We also have Townsend who went the other way, so we're ahead on a technicality.
Possibly, not sure of the other clubs records
If you add Grimes as PSD and players like Broad and Graham who were late picks it's not a team of high picks. Plenty of 2nd and 3rd rounders in the 2020 flag team as well like Balta, Bolton, Edwards, McIntosh, Astbury, Houli, Nankervis
The alternate view to that is if the club shows support to Stack and continues on a welfare path this would give the other young players a clear message that the club is here to support all of them in good or bad. AFL players are sheltered from normal life in any case. Things like this happening to a team mate can help others in their own personal growth.
Easy to just cut Stack and say oh well we tried harder to actually show the hard path. This is regardless of whether Stack actually plays football again. The club should make every effort to ensure Stack has a future pathway to a good life.
It then becomes the question of whether Stack actually accepts the help and makes the necessary changes in his approach to his life and what he wants that to look like.
