Sydney Stack

[Elmer]

Young, brash indigenous man dealing with COVID restrictions.

Is lost at the moment, needs to be in clubland with his brothers.

I’d keep him. Send him to X Clarke when he’s able to leave.

Folks are jumping the gun here. Quick to end his career. He’s a young man bursting with life and making poor decisions. COVID is a minefield for young men. A straitjacket. Throw in his culture and I have the utmost sympathy.

He’s salvageable. Look at Jordan de Goey - up on a charge we would consider far more serious than anything Sydney has done.

What's the rap sheet? A bit of push and shove. We've all been there. He broke COVID rules and yes that's serious. But can we expect young men in the prime of life to be wise 100% of the time? To have understanding of wider ramifications of every little action?

Keep him RFC. Bring him back into clubland. He loves the club and just needs to mature a bit, live a bit.

This is the hardest time for him hopefully and he’ll work through it.

I don't think the kid should be in jail for what happened but this is second time he's broken COVID rules in a couple of months. The whole "I let my club and family down" routine didn't last long. That's not an expectation of wise 100% of time that's an expectation of don't breach a second time while still on penalty for the first.

I wouldn't be upset if the club bought him back and recognise Sydney doesn't have the support and guidance others have had which deserves empathy but when do you say the rules that apply to all the others on this list apply to him too?

 

[acatman1]

Has all the hall marks of a Dayle Gartlett situation to me

 

[tigerman]

Make this your darkest hour Syd.
This can be just a little blimp in your life, onwards and upwards.

 

[bairdy380]

Stack isn’t some sort of social experiment, and RFC isn’t a social service or charity

 

[mrposhman]

I don't think the kid should be in jail for what happened but this is second time he's broken COVID rules in a couple of months. The whole "I let my club and family down" routine didn't last long. That's not an expectation of wise 100% of time that's an expectation of don't breach a second time while still on penalty for the first.

I wouldn't be upset if the club bought him back and recognise Sydney doesn't have the support and guidance others have had which deserves empathy but when do you say the rules that apply to all the others on this list apply to him too?

Its not the 2nd time that he has broken Covid restrictions though. It just happens to be the 2nd time he's been caught.

I have him on insta, and he's been out and about with family all over the place since being back, certainly no isolation going on. You can't see it now as predominantly he lives off insta stories and not posts.

 

[Bernie]

Problem is clubs have had to trim support personnel, so less time to dedicate to lost soles. And the COVID rules having been deliberately broken after what he done in Qld means he will only be back to clean out his locker.

So who’s barefoot?

 

[Elmer]

Its not the 2nd time that he has broken Covid restrictions though. It just happens to be the 2nd time he's been caught.

I have him on insta, and he's been out and about with family all over the place since being back, certainly no isolation going on. You can't see it now as predominantly he lives off insta stories and not posts.

If a tree falls in the forest.... I'm taking what he's physically been caught doing and not the online world of insta stories ... whatever that is ... where he's a rapper or whatever other fantasy he and others indulge in. With apologies to Sgt. Murtagh "I'm too old for that *smile*."

Although I take the point that publicly documenting law breaking shows a distinct lack of judgement, but that is the issue with Sydney. Question is to cut him loose or help him with his judgement ongoing?

 

[Berwick boy]

Time to call Saul.

 

[craig]

Time to call Saul.

Or Winston Wolf ................

 

[snags]

CCJ is not in Perth and was not involved in the fracas in Northbridge on Saturday night.

Oh *smile* sorry! I’m still on kebabgate. Haven’t caught up on the latest. Kid needs to read Pickett’s book.

 

[taztiger4]

Time to call Saul.

Josh's brother ?

 

[snags]

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ON GEELONG STAYING AT THE TOP

Carter believes the first rule of business – and thriving as a football club – is minimising those self-inflicted controversies that so often befall rivals.

“Footy clubs make decisions on football and list management and staff and if you can get eight or nine of those decisions right out of 10 you are in with a big show,” he said.

“If you make bad decisions the headwinds hit you. If you get four or five decisions right out of 10, the margins are so tight you probably finish in the bottom half of the ladder.

“I have watched a lot of footy clubs and at any one point in time a third of clubs are making life difficult with inner turmoil.

“If you can avoid that, you are competing for a position in the top 12. Nothing that has happened has persuaded us that’s incorrect.

“In the old days the cheque book would cover a multitude of organisational sins.

“You could trash your organisation and buy a champion from Adelaide or Perth, but you can’t do it any more so it can take years to recover from bad decisions.”


I thought this comment last week from Colin Carter was insightful and was my key takeaway. It applied to Richmond over the last 10 years, which apart from a few hiccups (2016 board challenge and chopstick-gate come to mind), has grown from its stability into a powerhouse and 3 unbelievable premierships.

I think the club has rolled the dice on a few players the last few years, after avoiding Ben Cousin-type stories for the last 10 years. Stack and Pickett are the two obvious ones.

Pickett has paid off in spades - his maturity and four kids has played a big part. The guys is focussed on setting up his family for life.

Stack however after an amazing first year, has lead to the turmoil that Colin Carter describes - through turning up out of shape two years in a row to the infamous and more serious kebab incident which cost the club dearly. I think the club will be torn and wanting to support the young kid they drafted. But also looking to avoid future headlines.

The club will know more in the coming days/month and respond accordingly. My bet, after a 2020 of club headlines, is that they will look to move forward without stackman and his headlines.

The leaders will vote. I reckon it’ll come down to Stack’s relationships at the club and how much he contributes behind the scenes compared to the turmoil.

 

[Althom]

Oh *smile* sorry! I’m still on kebabgate. Haven’t caught up on the latest. Kid needs to read Pickett’s book.

Too full of himself to take time to read let alone take some responsibility for his behaviour

 

[jimbob]

I think even the most staunch of us will agree,

Stackman finishes blues, rather than starts them?

generally, a widely accepted admirable quality in an Australian male?

I recall Daryl White chucking a pushy off Kangaroo point cliffs and telling Robert Walls he was a footballer, not a *smile* bike rider.

This after telling Walls he might return from Alice for a preseason, then turning up fat.

I also reckon he spent a bit of an off season in the big house?

triple premiership player, captain of the indigenous side of the century.

Maurice Rioli Snr, lost the NT parliamentary fridge on the Dapto dogs.

Andrew Krakeouer broke the Champion data computer in the 2010 WAFL GF after a decent spell in The She-Oak Hotel.

Marlion Pickett came from last to win the world most romantic sporting success story Cup

Theres pretty good precedents

Theres a white fella or two who have undergone a redemptions also.

we're all human

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[acatman1]

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Indeed so, alas us in the real world do not have the same rules as high profile sports people. We would be out on our backside with no chances let alone 47 " last chances"

 

[jimbob]

eZyT, yes you’re right with these. Plenty of redemption stories. I was pretty stoked that we gave him a crack when other clubs didn’t because of an “incident”. Love the infectious attitude of the boy when he takes the field. The Viney hip and shoulder. Awesome. Watched the replay 20 times. The aggressive stance in his first Dreamtime game. Bloody fantastic. However, turn up fat and out of condition 2 years in a row, have repeat incidents out of COVID when literally the whole comp could have stopped if it wasn’t for the Queensland Gov at the time. Without going over my earlier posts this could have cost us back to back flags if they (qland gov ) cracked the *smile*. Pretty sure we all love what he can bring to the table. But he has multiple offences at age 20. Darryl White was in the system for a fair while. I just don’t see someone who is genuine about getting his act together. So...we therefore let any player do what they like? It’s taken us 37 years to actually get the right culture happening when it was far from that. Sure, support and get around someone who has made a mistake. Who learns from it. My problem with this, with all due respect to opinions that may differ and at the end of the day everyone is entitled to their opinion, is I am not seeing someone who is (a) learning by their mistakes (b) respects either his team mates or the club that gave him his chance to dance on the big stage. At what point do we put a line in the sand and say enough? We got 36 plus players on the list that should be allowed to thumb their noses at what we are trying to do? Love his ability. Love his vibrancy (not the Ben Lennon type) but there comes a time. My opinion only. Cheers

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Everything pointing to the club weathering the storm and taking Syd back. If that's their decision, fine, but it reeks of double standards. Connors was out the door before any conjecture could be entered into.

 

[Tames]

You have to wonder what the players think of this as well. Grimes said players were gutted when the kebab situation happened. Whether that was leaders or players in general, but surely they have some sort of say on Stacks club involvement, even if its just for group harmony going forward.

 

[Rancey18]

I would imagine the players feel as disappointed as most supporters would feel about all of this right now.

 

[seven]

At least he can spend Christmas with family