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State of the game - PRE voice

What do we need to do with the game?


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Let me run a couple of scenarios for you.

1. We finish third on the ladder on percentage, the difference between us and Port Adelaide in second is less than the percentage they gained in beating Carlton over 20 minute quarters, as opposed to us who played them over 16 mins. Would that be satisfactory?

2. AFL announces we go back to 20 minute quarters from round three. After round 13 there is an outbreak of COVID-19 at Trent Cotchin's kids kinder. He tests positive. The entire RFC is then required to quarantine for two weeks, missing the round 14 and 15 matches. The AFL presents two options for Richmond, either share the points for the two games or play an extra game on the Wednesday after rounds 16 and 17.

If we stay at 16 minute quarters we have the flexibility to deal with issues like that without compromising the competition. You can simple suspend the season for a period of time and then come back with a compressed format. No-one is going to agree to risk their players in a compressed format with full time games, not least the players themselves.

If that happens you can reduce the quarter lengths again for the "compressed season". The draw and the season are so compromised already it makes little difference.
 
Pay throws, in the back, round the neck etc (bring back ‘all over im’) and stuff the rest of these nit picky stupid rules. Give Eddie a historectamy, poke an ice pick in hocking’s eye, cut off Bartletts wings and put all of them and their kind in a gigantic meat mincer that generates ozone and plants trees.
 
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Rules have changed constantly over the years so no problem making changes if required.

Definitely reduced rotations
The distance for a legal mark is an issue so enforcing at least 20m would be OK - and I'm still open to a backward kick or at least a backward kick in D50 not being a mark.
Agree with you in every regard
 
Not allowing backwards kicks cuts off the switch in play which often leads to overlap running and exciting ball movement.

Australian Rules has always been distinguished by the way it is a 360 degree game, get rid of that and you fundamentally change the game.

DS
Can still kick backwards in the back half but its play on. If they introduced the minumum 25 metre kick Collingwood would have to find another game plan, especially against us.
 
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Yeah, somewhere along the line it seems to have become legal to throw the ball. Counted multiple instances of throwing the ball being let go in the Bombers V Swans game for both sides.
 
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If the AFL want to lift scoring and improve the spectacle of the game, the 9pt goal from beyond 50m is the way to go. Unlike every other rule change the afl has made since 2008 this will actually encourage scoring but the afl need to be patient and give it time to work.

Players and coaches will need to adjust but once teams start semi regularly making 9pt’ers, oppositions will need to start spreading out their defensive zones. This will create more space for forwards and hopefully lead to more scoring.
 
The team prior opportunity rule is the one I think makes the most sense. Piror opportunity given first time up, if the ball his hand passed to a close team mate who will obviously be caught straight away, then there is no prior opportunity for the receiver. Holding /dropping the ball, free kick paid.

That will keep players away from the man with the ball resulting in less congestion.

Maybe.
 
Was around when the VFA (Victorian Football Association) had the 16 man format ( no wingmen) & just suited agile speedy squibs. They preferred playing in that League than playing in the hardy suburban leagues (Diamond Valley, Metropolitan, Federal etc etc). Besides that if the 16 man is adopted so how mnay blokes,sheilas & kids wont get a game each week around the country. It is hard enough for some footballers to get a game each week as it is.
 
Yeah, somewhere along the line it seems to have become legal to throw the ball. Counted multiple instances of throwing the ball being let go in the Bombers V Swans game for both sides.
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The throw is pandemic in the game & got me beat how three umps cannot determine what is a legimate handball & throw especially the over the head one.
 
If the AFL want to lift scoring and improve the spectacle of the game, the 9pt goal from beyond 50m is the way to go. Unlike every other rule change the afl has made since 2008 this will actually encourage scoring but the afl need to be patient and give it time to work.

Players and coaches will need to adjust but once teams start semi regularly making 9pt’ers, oppositions will need to start spreading out their defensive zones. This will create more space for forwards and hopefully lead to more scoring.
God, no.

The AFL has shown just this week that it is happy to change things mid-seasons, so that the tackle Burgoyne got away with last week is suspendable this week. So, they can revert back to 20-minute quarters, and should.
 
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To me it would be ridiculous to play different lengths of quarters within the same season.

So they are now sacrosanct?? Ridiculous. You've got Fremantle playing Port Adelaide on the Gold Coast FFS.
 
Yeah, somewhere along the line it seems to have become legal to throw the ball. Counted multiple instances of throwing the ball being let go in the Bombers V Swans game for both sides.
Every game has multiple throws. It's mostly a shovel now when in close, there almost should be a separate stat for it.
 
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I stand to be corrected by a historian but I'd say there have been many, many seasons where teams have played home games at various venues but never a season where the length of playing time changed from game to game.

I think if it was a standard length season you could mount a case for it being another advantage or disadvantage on a par with who you play twice but when there is 17 games you have as close to an even draw as we will ever get.

How would it be if a ladder position was decided by percentage between two clubs, because one gained more % over 20 minute quarters against a side the other player for 16 minute quarters?

The shortened quarters are an insurance measure just in case the season has another interruption and teams have to play multiple games with maybe only 4-5 days break.
Happy to put up with them for another 15 matches.
 
Just being picky here but ....
If the kicker was standing 10m back from the bloke standing on the mark - does that mean he could kick it backwards 5m and it would be a mark because it was taken 15m from the point?
Why? Maybe to run down the clock?
No.
 
I stand to be corrected by a historian but I'd say there have been many, many seasons where teams have played home games at various venues but never a season where the length of playing time changed from game to game.

I think if it was a standard length season you could mount a case for it being another advantage or disadvantage on a par with who you play twice but when there is 17 games you have as close to an even draw as we will ever get.

How would it be if a ladder position was decided by percentage between two clubs, because one gained more % over 20 minute quarters against a side the other player for 16 minute quarters?

I understand the rationale, but, how about we go back to standard length quarters for the finals.

DS
 
I'd like to see something done about the blocking of key forwards...only takes a half second to impede a foward 50 m off the ball to give them no chance to get to the contest first or even get there at all.
 
I'd like to see something done about the blocking of key forwards...only takes a half second to impede a foward 50 m off the ball to give them no chance to get to the contest first or even get there at all.

Easy fix: bring in a rule that you are not allowed to hold a player who is not in possession of the ball . . . wait a minute, isn't that holding the man - is that still a rule?

DS
 
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