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SBS AFL Story and St Kilda players sexual assault allegations [Merged]
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Struggletown, I played for a club in the Bayside region with its home ground in the old reclaimed swamplands!!
I can't give you the clubs name, but I reckon you can figure it out...what about you?
I can't give you the clubs name, but I reckon you can figure it out...what about you?
Clubs act in wake of sex claims
By Daniel Ziffer, Lyall Johnson
March 18, 2004
Melbourne AFL clubs have reacted quickly to the St Kilda sex allegations, with many scheduling meetings with players to again drive home their off-field responsibilities.
All clubs hold such meetings at least once a year, usually in conjunction with the AFL and the AFL Players Association, but several also held extraordinary meetings in recent weeks in the wake of the allegations against six Canterbury Bulldogs players.
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Richmond player welfare manager Dale Weightman said the Tigers had already tackled the sexual conduct issue this year. It had gone back to the players in light of the Canterbury Bulldogs' scandal and had done so again already this week in light of the St Kilda matter.
Essendon chief executive Peter Jackson said the club addressed this issue annually in conjunction with the AFL and the players' association as part of its annual counselling of players.
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I edited this just to include Richmond's response. The full article can be found at.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/03/17/1079199291085.html?oneclick=true
By Daniel Ziffer, Lyall Johnson
March 18, 2004
Melbourne AFL clubs have reacted quickly to the St Kilda sex allegations, with many scheduling meetings with players to again drive home their off-field responsibilities.
All clubs hold such meetings at least once a year, usually in conjunction with the AFL and the AFL Players Association, but several also held extraordinary meetings in recent weeks in the wake of the allegations against six Canterbury Bulldogs players.
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Richmond player welfare manager Dale Weightman said the Tigers had already tackled the sexual conduct issue this year. It had gone back to the players in light of the Canterbury Bulldogs' scandal and had done so again already this week in light of the St Kilda matter.
Essendon chief executive Peter Jackson said the club addressed this issue annually in conjunction with the AFL and the players' association as part of its annual counselling of players.
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I edited this just to include Richmond's response. The full article can be found at.
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/03/17/1079199291085.html?oneclick=true
MMMM nah cant figure it out???Rampaging Richo said:
Bayside area ive played against Williamstown cyms, old brighton,mentone,old mentone,murrumbena-glen eira am l warm?? bit worried the groupies might bring up a defamation suit Ramps!
I play for Ivanhoe Amatuers not to be confused with Old ivanhoe grammer, we wear black and white unfortunately !???
You remember playing us???
Correct on both counts Jackstar.jackstar said:
The miles family are all still involved and have been for over 50 years
About the Prior Sexual History
These days it Is against the law to mention someones prior sexual history in a case. But they'll still try to hint whatever they can about the victims, but if they go out and blatantly say something about their history then they can get a new jury.
About The Payoff thing
They cant be doing this for pay
Sexual Assaul/Rape is a criminal offence, the victim wont get any money
They can attempt to sue for negligence, a civil offence, but they must prove they sustained physichal or mental damage, and this will be difficult for them to prove
So a payoff is possible but unlikely.
These days it Is against the law to mention someones prior sexual history in a case. But they'll still try to hint whatever they can about the victims, but if they go out and blatantly say something about their history then they can get a new jury.
About The Payoff thing
They cant be doing this for pay
Sexual Assaul/Rape is a criminal offence, the victim wont get any money
They can attempt to sue for negligence, a civil offence, but they must prove they sustained physichal or mental damage, and this will be difficult for them to prove
So a payoff is possible but unlikely.
I think the standard money-digger's ploy is to go straight to the club before the police and threaten to tell the cops. So I agree, I don't think money is the issue here.
Fame (or infamy), on the other hand... :-\
Interesting to hear Andy D come out and urge any other alleged victims to come straight to the AFL with any complaints. That kind of thing can be easily misconstrued.
Fame (or infamy), on the other hand... :-\
Interesting to hear Andy D come out and urge any other alleged victims to come straight to the AFL with any complaints. That kind of thing can be easily misconstrued.
WildTiger said:
They must have been busy busy ladies coz lets face it, if a lady wants recreational activities after dark, they are a lot easier to obtain then if a guy wants same.
I'm not into one nighters myself, but i've been described as looking like the north end of a south bound camel, or having a head like my neck just threw up, or having a head like a busted knee etc etc - so if there was a similar male competition going (my morals aside), i think i would sit it out - lest i face the indignity of coming in last :-\
Who was it that said "it's playing the game that counts"!!
Walster said:
They should have pubs just for ugly people like me!!
Actually, maybe that's what the Beaconsfield Hotel is for!!!
Who called it?
"If the guy you are talking about played in Sydney, Brisbane & Adelaide, and had a weird haircut, I have heard similar rumours, though he is no longer in the AFL. "
and "it was one of the burgoyne brothers" someone else said
Footy show just broke that story.
Oh and on my thing about the payoffs, i meant to add That they will have trouble getting any money if they have already told the media what has happened
"If the guy you are talking about played in Sydney, Brisbane & Adelaide, and had a weird haircut, I have heard similar rumours, though he is no longer in the AFL. "
and "it was one of the burgoyne brothers" someone else said
Footy show just broke that story.
Oh and on my thing about the payoffs, i meant to add That they will have trouble getting any money if they have already told the media what has happened
struggletown3121 said:
Old Mentonians - I played against you guys in 1999 but in the 2nds. The game at your ground was a nail biter. Your full forward who hadn't missed all day, sent it right from 30 meters out dead in front to give us a 4 point win after the siren.
scarecrow said:
The Burgoyne part of this story was consensual at hte start but then he allowed his mates just as code O and H to join in here and that is where the trouble started as that part was not consensual. This is what I have heard reliably anyway through a friend of the girl, not saying it is definitely the case though as all heresay has to be treated as jsut that and not fact.
Old Mentonians - I played against you guys in 1999 but in the 2nds. The game at your ground was a nail biter. Your full forward who hadn't missed all day, sent it right from 30 meters out dead in front to give us a 4 point win after the siren.
I played in that game :'( :'(
The guy who missed was the 2nd best full forward lve seen at ammo level, the best was your bloke Acreman.
If ld known about your groupies ld have hung around for a longer drink after the game too
I played in that game :'( :'(
The guy who missed was the 2nd best full forward lve seen at ammo level, the best was your bloke Acreman.
If ld known about your groupies ld have hung around for a longer drink after the game too
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