DirtyDogTiger said:
This. We won 0.5 games more than the crows for the year. It's not like we just won the last few games of the year
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Richmond 2017 AFL Premiers
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This. We won 0.5 games more than the crows for the year. It's not like we just won the last few games of the year
The other thing you can add mac..
"The Tigers had the easy side of the draw in the finals "
Well, as it turned out, the 4 teams that finished top 4, were the same teams that made it to the prelims.....
We were one of those teams, AND, who did we play in the finals??..... the other 3 top 4 teams (Cats, GWS, and Crows)....
Hence, we beat the best in the comp....and by lots!!
"The Tigers had the easy side of the draw in the finals "
Well, as it turned out, the 4 teams that finished top 4, were the same teams that made it to the prelims.....
We were one of those teams, AND, who did we play in the finals??..... the other 3 top 4 teams (Cats, GWS, and Crows)....
Hence, we beat the best in the comp....and by lots!!
Regarding the home ground advantage, you only have to be mindful of how many games at home you have against interstate opposition compared to how many interstate games you have yourself.
If they are roughly the same then there is no significant advantage - the games against "local" opposition cancel each other out.
For Victorian teams, this is probably about 5 and 5. For interstate teams, it would be about 10 and 10.
So there really is no difference there.
Geelong is a special case because they are the only team that has a home ground that the league prefers not to use for finals when there is a much better option just up the road. Stuff them.
Where the home ground advantage issue becomes interesting is with the Grand Final, because it has to be played at the MCG - it's the only final where there is no designated home team.
It looks bad now because the last five Grand Finals have all seen a Victorian team beat a non-Victorian team.
But it's cyclical and you know what? There have been 16 Grand Finals between a Victorian and a non-Victorian team, and the score is 8-8.
It's even difficult to designate a home team.
It would have been easy this year because Adelaide finished higher and won their Qualifying Final.
But had they lost it then do you take into account that loss if you have to decide who the higher team is in the Grand Final?
There is no easy solution.
The only obvious one (and fairest) is to say that either competing team in the Grand Final may insist that it be played as a two-legged home-and-away affair as what happens in soccer.
For example, this year could have seen a game in Adelaide and one in Melbourne and you add up the scores.
Mightn't be a bad idea ... you could cram an extra 50,000 into a Grand Final match and the AFL would make a squillion more dollars.
If they are roughly the same then there is no significant advantage - the games against "local" opposition cancel each other out.
For Victorian teams, this is probably about 5 and 5. For interstate teams, it would be about 10 and 10.
So there really is no difference there.
Geelong is a special case because they are the only team that has a home ground that the league prefers not to use for finals when there is a much better option just up the road. Stuff them.
Where the home ground advantage issue becomes interesting is with the Grand Final, because it has to be played at the MCG - it's the only final where there is no designated home team.
It looks bad now because the last five Grand Finals have all seen a Victorian team beat a non-Victorian team.
But it's cyclical and you know what? There have been 16 Grand Finals between a Victorian and a non-Victorian team, and the score is 8-8.
It's even difficult to designate a home team.
It would have been easy this year because Adelaide finished higher and won their Qualifying Final.
But had they lost it then do you take into account that loss if you have to decide who the higher team is in the Grand Final?
There is no easy solution.
The only obvious one (and fairest) is to say that either competing team in the Grand Final may insist that it be played as a two-legged home-and-away affair as what happens in soccer.
For example, this year could have seen a game in Adelaide and one in Melbourne and you add up the scores.
Mightn't be a bad idea ... you could cram an extra 50,000 into a Grand Final match and the AFL would make a squillion more dollars.
Forgotten Years has been on my playlist since Sept 30th 2017. The more I listen to it the more it’s a great track for our period from 1982 to today.
If they ever make a movie about RFC when we pull of the fourpeat in 2020, Forgotten Year’s needs to be the closing track.
If they ever make a movie about RFC when we pull of the fourpeat in 2020, Forgotten Year’s needs to be the closing track.
wayne said:
I was watching a bit of the 1999 prelim final with the Bummers and the Blues. Was interested in the attendance. 80,000. LOL, what a bunch of minnow clubs. We would pull 80K for regular season games against these clubs.
mrposhman said:
Melbourne fizzling after being flag fancies was yet another little sweet cherry on a tremendous black forest Premiership gateaux.
Being premiers makes trade week almost irrelevant. There is another flag or two in this group no matter if we add to it or not.
Being premiers, to paraphrase Caro, puts a spring in your step. It was an amazing September, one I was glad to share not just with my actual family and friends, but also you motley lot, from watching VFL finals with Dyer'ere, to pre-prelim beers with Leysy, to VFL grand final cheering with snakey, easy, CC, Oldie, taz, TOT and caeser, it was great to put some faces and voices to the written word. High-fiving strangers at the ground, outside the ground, on Punt Rd and up Bridge Rd (I didn't make it to Swan St - my one small regret), seeing how important it was for so many people. The release of all that pain, the pure joy, the serene, supreme, golden glow of the last 15 minutes and the following hours.
Nothing will top it as a Tigers fan. We'll win another flag and that will be joyous too, but not to this extreme. This was a once in a lifetime experience. I'm so glad I was there and made sure to soak it all in. I've seen the replay at least four times but I can close my eyes and see every goal, every key play, the presentation and lap of honour, the faces of so many fellow travellers, the sea of yellow and black, the thunder of 'YELLOW AND BLACK", from my seat in the southern stand, on the opposite side to the cameras. My mind's eye and ear will retain those images and sounds and I'll never forget how I felt.
Incredible. Amazing. So happy and so proud, for - and of - all of us who were there at Windy Hill for the Save Our Skins match in 1990 and the tin-rattling on street corners and in shopping centres, who suffered the derision of others and felt the disbelieving sense of betrayal at the knife plunged into our hearts over and over by those entrusted with steering the good ship Richmond FC.
As Dimma said in his acceptance speech, this one was for us. The next one will be for them, as it should be.
Being premiers, to paraphrase Caro, puts a spring in your step. It was an amazing September, one I was glad to share not just with my actual family and friends, but also you motley lot, from watching VFL finals with Dyer'ere, to pre-prelim beers with Leysy, to VFL grand final cheering with snakey, easy, CC, Oldie, taz, TOT and caeser, it was great to put some faces and voices to the written word. High-fiving strangers at the ground, outside the ground, on Punt Rd and up Bridge Rd (I didn't make it to Swan St - my one small regret), seeing how important it was for so many people. The release of all that pain, the pure joy, the serene, supreme, golden glow of the last 15 minutes and the following hours.
Nothing will top it as a Tigers fan. We'll win another flag and that will be joyous too, but not to this extreme. This was a once in a lifetime experience. I'm so glad I was there and made sure to soak it all in. I've seen the replay at least four times but I can close my eyes and see every goal, every key play, the presentation and lap of honour, the faces of so many fellow travellers, the sea of yellow and black, the thunder of 'YELLOW AND BLACK", from my seat in the southern stand, on the opposite side to the cameras. My mind's eye and ear will retain those images and sounds and I'll never forget how I felt.
Incredible. Amazing. So happy and so proud, for - and of - all of us who were there at Windy Hill for the Save Our Skins match in 1990 and the tin-rattling on street corners and in shopping centres, who suffered the derision of others and felt the disbelieving sense of betrayal at the knife plunged into our hearts over and over by those entrusted with steering the good ship Richmond FC.
As Dimma said in his acceptance speech, this one was for us. The next one will be for them, as it should be.
Gold post . Yep besides the life long dream realised it's been bloody great to meet an share a beer with so many of pre's finest over the last few weeks.spook said:
'We're so *smile*ing mental' in that video link of Harry's. :cutelaugh :cutelaugh
Great words spooker. Good to see it written down.
I've honestly had trouble describing how I've felt the past week & a half.
Life has changed forever.
Great words spooker. Good to see it written down.
I've honestly had trouble describing how I've felt the past week & a half.
Life has changed forever.
wayne said:
Sorry, but nowhere near it. There are a few instances of 100,000+ three times in a row: http://puntroadend.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=53850.msg2184469#msg2184469
CC TIGER said:
x3. Great stuff Spook, and likewise. If I've had a better time in my life, I can't quite remember it.
On Swan St, it was crazy, I've never seen anything like it, I've been to Carnivale in Colombia and Easy has been to the same in Brazil, they were like sunday picnics by comparison. The thing that sticks with me the most was the happiness, we stayed in Richmond, all week everyone was happy, then of course after the win everyone was crazy-happy. Then the few days after, happy, happy happy, a happy place full of happy people. Doesn't happen often in life.
Also on Swan St, while I loved it and was amazing to see, all the bars, restaurants and pubs were totally unprepared for the win. All the pubs had sold tickets to functions so you couldn't get in, and there were queues 50 metres long at everyone of them of people trying to. Any venues that didn't would have filled straight away, so I dunno, 50-60K spill out of the G and PRO, maybe more, and have nowhere to go but the street. If they had thought it through, they should have had a mini festival with outdoor bars etc, they would have made a stack more money.
Harry said:
Haha. Was there and it was insane. I would love to do it all again next year.
I might even do a shoey if we get up this time.
;D
