The issue is its being made up on the fly with no coherent, strategy, thought or communication to involve obvious stakeholders (fans, clubs, players).
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Richmond, represented by Dermot Dann, argued an error of law had been made by the Tribunal in not considering “whether a player who does no more than takes reasonable action to protect themselves and brace for an unavoidable collision can ben involved in the bumping of another player.”
The Tribunal, Dann said, never addressed the question of whether Mansell’s conduct was reasonable or unreasonable.
The Tribunal was dealing with a case of unavoidable contact between two players travelling at high speed with high momentum,” Dann said.
Later he added, “It has to remain a fundamental entitlement that any player, called upon in certain circumstances, can be able to protect themselves.”
At Tuesday’s Tribunal, it was put to Mansell that he could’ve attempted to tackle Aish instead of electing to bump.
Dann said that action “would’ve been a recipe for disaster” and risked face-to-face, head-to-head contact.
He also warned that, if the decision was upheld, it would “promote risk of injury, promote risk of concussion (and) deny a fundamental entitlement of the player".
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Not anymore man. That fundamental right is now removed.
The Tribunal, Dann said, never addressed the question of whether Mansell’s conduct was reasonable or unreasonable.
The Tribunal was dealing with a case of unavoidable contact between two players travelling at high speed with high momentum,” Dann said.
Later he added, “It has to remain a fundamental entitlement that any player, called upon in certain circumstances, can be able to protect themselves.”
At Tuesday’s Tribunal, it was put to Mansell that he could’ve attempted to tackle Aish instead of electing to bump.
Dann said that action “would’ve been a recipe for disaster” and risked face-to-face, head-to-head contact.
He also warned that, if the decision was upheld, it would “promote risk of injury, promote risk of concussion (and) deny a fundamental entitlement of the player".
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Not anymore man. That fundamental right is now removed.
Did they mention at the hearing what the expectation is for Nigel in that situation?
Id be keen to hear what he is meant to do instead.
Id be keen to hear what he is meant to do instead.
So then we adjust, other teams don't, and they end up winning all the loose ball and thus we lose every game.
Good Lord. Am I currently living in a parallel universe or alternate dimension? Seriously
Memo to Rhyan Mansell, don't change they way you play, this absurdity will come to pass as soon as they find something else to nitpick about, your actions last week were entirely justified and this type of commitment is everything Richmond stands for. You have only gone up in my estimation.
It feels like the suspension is grossly overweight in comparison to the Kosi Pickett and DeGoey outcomes and there is a sense of injustice to how the adjudication has been applied. The AFL has gone to incredible lengths over the past few years to speed the game up and now all of a sudden midway through the season more interpretations are needed to make sense of what used to be a footy act.
Regardless of what any supporter thinks about any bias shown towards their own team by either umpires, MRO, or tribunal, this decision appears to now hold long term consequences for our game.
I sincerely hope this has not crushed the football career of young Mansell. He is not the poster boy for many supporters, however you can see why he was in the team and that attack on the ball, at that stage of the game would have been praised by his coaches and his teammates.
Regardless of what any supporter thinks about any bias shown towards their own team by either umpires, MRO, or tribunal, this decision appears to now hold long term consequences for our game.
I sincerely hope this has not crushed the football career of young Mansell. He is not the poster boy for many supporters, however you can see why he was in the team and that attack on the ball, at that stage of the game would have been praised by his coaches and his teammates.
They keep penalising based on outcome, not on the action itself. Had Aish not been knocked out then Mansell might have been given a week, if it was even reported at all. The AFL are now scared of any contact with the head. They’ll also try to discourage high marking, because that can result in head contact.
Absolutely this.
I'd be extremely disappointed if he changed his attack on the footy.
Tough break for the kid.
It's comprehensible that he could be suspended in my eyes. Was running to win a contested ball and due to bounce of the ball, the other player's instinctive reaction (who was moving at speed) coupled with Mansell's instinctive reaction (who was also moving at speed) a collision occurred. It's a contact sport and collisions will happen in the course of the game just like this one.
Is it a punishable offence? No, it's not. It's actually ridiculous. Aside from not accelerate to the contest to win a ball in dispute, I don't know what else Mansell was supposed to do and is expected to do in the future (any player for that matter). Perhaps if both players had attacked the ball open chested (and hence unprotected) and knocked each other out, the AFL would have been happier. Whilst I don't think Mansell is our greatest player in this forward role by any means, the AFL/Tribunal principal behind this suspension is just wrong. He's been hardly done by.
Is it a punishable offence? No, it's not. It's actually ridiculous. Aside from not accelerate to the contest to win a ball in dispute, I don't know what else Mansell was supposed to do and is expected to do in the future (any player for that matter). Perhaps if both players had attacked the ball open chested (and hence unprotected) and knocked each other out, the AFL would have been happier. Whilst I don't think Mansell is our greatest player in this forward role by any means, the AFL/Tribunal principal behind this suspension is just wrong. He's been hardly done by.
We spend so much time and money supporting Richmond and by extension the AFL.
I seriously prefer watching the Amo’s.
I’m almost ready for the switch.
They’ve stolen our game and destroyed its fabric.
They don’t deserve our support.
I’m starting to believe Richmond will be collateral damage in this sh#tfight.
Very sad day for all of us.
I seriously prefer watching the Amo’s.
I’m almost ready for the switch.
They’ve stolen our game and destroyed its fabric.
They don’t deserve our support.
I’m starting to believe Richmond will be collateral damage in this sh#tfight.
Very sad day for all of us.
And exactly what's expected in a final - Towner on Crouch, Cotchin on Shiel, Ellis on Whitfield (?). Sets the tone, makes a statement, and lifts the whole team.
*smile* the MRP. *smile*'em right in the ear. You hold your head up son. You did nothing wrong.
