Total Tiger said:
I reckon Sintiger's post way back swayed at least a few, made me stop and think about some of my own actions.
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Re: Adam Goodes
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I reckon Sintiger's post way back swayed at least a few, made me stop and think about some of my own actions.
Total Tiger said:
I don't think you understand why they did it at all.
It wasn't out of fear.
rosy23 said:
It's not just about the past. It's about the present and what can be done.
What RFC are doing through the Korin Gamadji Institute is an example, and something we can all be proud of.
rosy23 said:
at the risk of getting back into this argument, can i ask in your opinion what discrimination has been tolerated?
Despite all the hot air.
In the finals series if Goodes takes a cheap shot at an opposition player there will be mass confusion. Some may automatically boo as they have done so for decades. They will be condemned as racist by many.
Many won't in fear of PC gone mad.
Many an AFL fan feels like they have been sold out and the general community accept the booing is racist. Meanwhile the atmosphere that has been drained from our game first to make it family friendly, now suffers another blow.
Golf clapps allround please.
Meanwhile over at the world game the atmosphere is like a festival. As we penalise players for tackling to hard to stop the mums from getting their kids to play the world game. Crowds are disappearing in the mist as the AFL has artificially kept clubs with low supporter bases competitive while the power clubs are all crumbling. Ironically after 33 years of been the comps laughing stock, we are finally ready for a genuine assault.
When they take the hardness out of the game, the coach's have turned it into British bulldog/ basketball hybrid. One on one contests are gone, Ruck contests are being attacked and you can no longer stand on the mark or take a free kick without congestion.
The Bump is dead, full forward an endangered species.
The atmosphere is gone and so have the crowds.
For me the issue was never about race. Its about football. Your deeds on the field and the color of your jumper is all that matters. Thats all changed now. You can no longer judge a player like any other player if is he is indigenous.
That is racist. Political correctness is killing the game. Meanwhile indigenous people still live in substandard conditions. Still excluded from many community, still suffer terrible health conditions.
Any off the righteous ever had an indigenous person over for dinner? Endeavoured to help the homeless indigenous family with shelter? Voted for improved social conditions for the disadvantaged no matter what their colour or do you vote for the liberal or labour party?
In the finals series if Goodes takes a cheap shot at an opposition player there will be mass confusion. Some may automatically boo as they have done so for decades. They will be condemned as racist by many.
Many won't in fear of PC gone mad.
Many an AFL fan feels like they have been sold out and the general community accept the booing is racist. Meanwhile the atmosphere that has been drained from our game first to make it family friendly, now suffers another blow.
Golf clapps allround please.
Meanwhile over at the world game the atmosphere is like a festival. As we penalise players for tackling to hard to stop the mums from getting their kids to play the world game. Crowds are disappearing in the mist as the AFL has artificially kept clubs with low supporter bases competitive while the power clubs are all crumbling. Ironically after 33 years of been the comps laughing stock, we are finally ready for a genuine assault.
When they take the hardness out of the game, the coach's have turned it into British bulldog/ basketball hybrid. One on one contests are gone, Ruck contests are being attacked and you can no longer stand on the mark or take a free kick without congestion.
The Bump is dead, full forward an endangered species.
The atmosphere is gone and so have the crowds.
For me the issue was never about race. Its about football. Your deeds on the field and the color of your jumper is all that matters. Thats all changed now. You can no longer judge a player like any other player if is he is indigenous.
That is racist. Political correctness is killing the game. Meanwhile indigenous people still live in substandard conditions. Still excluded from many community, still suffer terrible health conditions.
Any off the righteous ever had an indigenous person over for dinner? Endeavoured to help the homeless indigenous family with shelter? Voted for improved social conditions for the disadvantaged no matter what their colour or do you vote for the liberal or labour party?
IanG said:
It's not clear to me. Snake had a crack at TT when she posted her opinion telling her she can speak for herself and not the entire AFL community. "THE narrative" sounds very specific. Surely it's not lumping opinions and feelings of all indigenous communities in general together is it?
If we happened to play Sydney in the finals I'd boo Goodes since he's admitted it affects him and worries about the effect on his teammates. It'd be all about winning the game and nothing to do with racism.
Which is what I think the AFL is concerned about - its precious finals series. They didn't want Essendon tainting it in 2013 and they don't want booing/pseudo-racism to do it this year. However with Sydney looking every chance to go to Perth, I think it's inevitable.
Which is what I think the AFL is concerned about - its precious finals series. They didn't want Essendon tainting it in 2013 and they don't want booing/pseudo-racism to do it this year. However with Sydney looking every chance to go to Perth, I think it's inevitable.
rosy23 said:
We're going to be asked to vote on this in the medium term future.
The referendum will not be put until it has bipartisan support.
It won't get bipartisan support unless it's a consensus in the indigenous community.
But once it's done, the form of words will embody a narrative. The narrative.
ninjahaha said:
Right, now I get it. If I'm nice to an indigenous person I be racist and then say, "but look I was nice to that indigenous person so I'm not capable of racism". Cool. This race relations stuff is easy.
