Re: Adam Goodes

[Rosy]

No opinions to share in regards to discrimination in allowing certain behaviors from some and not from others as have been discussed? I'm very interested to see how people feel about this. I'll probably write to the AFL voicing my protest at it and advising I can no longer my continue financial support that benefits them and what they do. To me that would be tacit approval of something I'm dead against. I can't condone different rules for different races/people when I think of everyone should be treated equally.

 

[Willo]

But what is the point of this fact? What does it contribute to the discussion? Its like saying, after we have shellacked Carlton by 20 goals to 3, in response to someone saying it was a shellacking. 'How dare you say that, Carlton played some good footy too, kicked a couple of good goals, Murphy took a good mark, Yarran made a good run from the backline".

Bloody obvious what the point was. It shows that Goodes only wants to depict what suits his narrative.
That would have been obvious to anyone with even a little comprehension.

Who made you judge on who or what a person may post and what contribution they make.
Ask what you have contributed yourself. Instead gibbering on with guff and it's obvious you don't want to contribute or make any meaningful reply and only want to pot shot whatever I write, how about you move on.

 

[Rosy]

But what is the point of this fact? .......

What do you think the point of Adam pretending to spear the crowd in what was supposed to part of an intimidating routine? Why do you think he didn't aim it at the opposition team on the ground rather than the supporters in the outer?

 

[tigersnake]

Bloody obvious what the point was. It shows that Goodes only wants to depict what suits his narrative.
That would have been obvious to anyone with even a little comprehension.

Who made you judge on who or what a person may post and what contribution they make.
Ask what you have contributed yourself. Instead gibbering on with guff and it's obvious you don't want to contribute or make any meaningful reply and only want to pot shot whatever I write, how about you move on.

Its not Goodes' narrative, its THE narrative. You might reject it, as you've rightly said on and on, that is your right, George Brandis said so. You can post whatever you want pal, and people can challenge it. I'm challenging you because your posts are at the extreme end of what disappoints and dismays me about race relations in this country.

 

[Willo]

Its not Goodes' narrative, its THE narrative. You might reject it, as you've rightly said on and on, that is your right, George Brandis said so. You can post whatever you want pal, and people can challenge it. I'm challenging you because your posts are at the extreme end of what disappoints and dismays me about race relations in this country.

You've "challenged" bugger all.
To say my posts "are at the extreme end of what disappoints and dismays me about race relations in this country". What a load of b. bloody s. Talk about being extreme.
Whatever pal. Just move on for goodness sake.

 

[tigersnake]

You've "challenged" bugger all.
To say my posts "are at the extreme end of what disappoints and dismays me about race relations in this country". What a load of b. bloody s. Talk about being extreme.
Whatever pal. Just move on for goodness sake.

Move on, challenged bugger all. What is wrong exactly? You don't like what I've posted, is that it? Poor old fella. Everything happened 200 years ago, blackfellas did bad stuff too, Goodes narrative is false. Goodes is a thin-skinned sook. You post all this reactionary 101 crap and expect what? Bouquets?

 

[bruntonave.]

I have already answered this. But I'll try again.
The point was when Goodes referenced rapes and murders committed by whites against blacks. I said there were also rapes and murders committed by blacks against whites.
Did he mention that happening as well or did he only believe the former happened and not the latter?
I didn't imply any sort of equivalence. I merely stated a fact. No implication, fact.

You need to try again; again.

What exactly is your point?

 

[bruntonave.]

So he doesn't believe he is or doesn't want identify?
That's a conundrum in itself someone who is of aboriginal/indigenous heritage but doesn't identify as such, is he still aboriginal/indigenous?
I know of white people without any aboriginal/indigenous blood but who identify as being indigenous can be accepted as such.

You're not getting mixed up with Daniel Kerr by any chance?

No. Not Kerr

People can choose to identify, or not.

 

[bruntonave.]

What about when 1 parent is non-indigenous (i.e. Caucasian) ?

It doesn't matter.

This 'part' idea doesn't fly.

 

[tigersnake]

You've "challenged" bugger all.
To say my posts "are at the extreme end of what disappoints and dismays me about race relations in this country". What a load of b. bloody s. Talk about being extreme.
Whatever pal. Just move on for goodness sake.

Actually I take that back, they aren't at the extreme end. Forgot myself for a second, but they still have views about that disappoint me. I can get emotional about this stuff, fired up. Enough is enough as far as I'm concerned.

 

[bruntonave.]

Haha

You find this funny?

He used his footy role as an Indigenous pulpit and couldn't handle the heat. It works both ways.

What 'heat' would that be? How does it 'work both ways'?

What's the other side of the argument?

 

[bruntonave.]

What do you think the point of Adam pretending to spear the crowd in what was supposed to part of an intimidating routine?

Not the pretend spear again.

Do you really think that's more important ?

 

[scottyturnerscurse]

Good stuff tonight by Robbo, potting Fitzpatrick being silent for so long on this issue.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-commission-chairman-mike-fitzpatricks-adam-goodes-booing-comments-lacked-leadership-mark-robinson-writes/story-fnp04d70-1227468485792

 

[Tigers of Old]

Good stuff tonight by Robbo, potting Fitzpatrick being silent for so long on this issue.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-commission-chairman-mike-fitzpatricks-adam-goodes-booing-comments-lacked-leadership-mark-robinson-writes/story-fnp04d70-1227468485792

Pinch of salt. Robbo just potting him because of what he did to Hirdy and his beloved Bombers. Has quiet a mean streak Robbo as we saw with his persecution of Malthouse, doesn't forget.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

The "blackfellas did bad stuff too" is a bit like saying the "Jews did bad stuff too" isn't it? Discrimination is about disadvantage and power. In what way were/are the whitefellas disadvantaged? In what sense do/did the blackfellas have the power?

 

[mld]

The "blackfellas did bad stuff too" is a bit like saying the "Jews did bad stuff too" isn't it? Discrimination is about disadvantage and power. In what way were/are the whitefellas disadvantaged? In what sense do/did the blackfellas have the power?

This is a thread where people earnestly defended blackface.

 

[Willo]

Deleted. Couldn't be bothered replying.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I will do something I don't normally do and commend the way the AFL and Gillon McLachlan have handled this delicate issue.
Been done about as well as could be expected. 12 months in and I reckon Gil is doing a miles better job than Adolf.

 

[lukeanddad]

I will do something I don't normally do and commend the way the AFL and Gillon McLachlan have handled this delicate issue.
Been done about as well as could be expected. 12 months in and I reckon Gil is doing a miles better job than Adolf.

On an issue such as this, I would have expected to hear from the chairman. And gil's response to some of the questions has been far too equivocal.

 

[Tigers of Old]

On an issue such as this, I would have expected to hear from the chairman. And gil's response to some of the questions has been far too equivocal.

They couldn't win. I've learned that much this week. Reckon they've done well enough.