LeeToRainesToRoach said:If we happened to play Sydney in the finals I'd boo Goodes since he's admitted it affects him and worries about the effect on his teammates. It'd be all about winning the game and nothing to do with racism.
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Exactly, thats why your average AFL fan is not happy about being eagerly thrown in front of the PC bus. It is read as fact now that booing Adam is racist.
There will be outrage if he gets booed again.
The game and atmosphere is changed forever. Political correctness again the only beneficiary.
KnightersRevenge said:Right, now I get it. If I'm nice to an indigenous person I be racist and then say, "but look I was nice to that indigenous person so I'm not capable of racism". Cool. This race relations stuff is easy.
ninjahaha said:If you improve(even try) the conditions for one indigenous person you are on the right track.
Judging another person for what they say or write as racist, especially if that person has helped an indigenous person is self righteous especially if you are not doing anything to change the conditions of indigenous people other than call others racist.
KnightersRevenge said:Nope. You've got yourself all crossed up my dark and stealthy friend. If you do or say something racist your past actions (or future ones) are immaterial. You are still responsible for the thing you said or did. It's a bit like catholics going to confession then being horrible people all week, then back to confession. The one does not erase the other.
rosy23 said:I sometimes visit a place where old aboriginal stone axe was left abandoned lifetimes ago. The stone is sharp as. It has a deep worn area from thumbs rubbing in it over the years. It's had a lot of use. I feel different when I go to that place or handle that stone. It's a very spiritual thing. To have that small link to our original country people is so special.
I wonder if Aboriginals now would prefer to still live that primitive lifestyle if they had the choice. Has the advent of white man improved their lives at all over the years. Are we headed in the right direction for their best interests. Is there any benefit to dwelling on the terrible past. It should never be forgotten and it should be acknowledged but it can't be changed. The future certainly can though. It seems sometimes all we hear are negatives. I sincerely hope there are far more positives even if they're not so popular as a topic of discussion.
Tigers of Old said:Adam's come out and said he hopes everyone can move on. I sincerely hope that they can.
the debate is a little confusing. As we are all thinking and talking.KnightersRevenge said:Nope. You've got yourself all crossed up my dark and stealthy friend. If you do or say something racist your past actions (or future ones) are immaterial. You are still responsible for the thing you said or did. It's a bit like catholics going to confession then being horrible people all week, then back to confession. The one does not erase the other.
jb03 said:Reckon Goodes will get a great reception from the Cat fans.
Geelong mayor Darren Lyons wants anyone booing Adam to be evicted from the ground and banned.TigerForce said:Hopefully, but I wouldn't be surprised of the odd larrikin or two in the stands. First one to boo will be shot at point blank. ;D
jb03 said:Reckon Goodes will get a great reception from the Cat fans.
Yeah daily struggle for survival, hand to mouth existence and dead before 30, sounds awesome.K3 said:I am reading (slowly) a very, very interesting book which shows how life for homo sapiens started to go downhill from the point of the Agricultural Revolution. With the points the author makes, it is pretty hard to disagree.
Giardiasis said:Yeah daily struggle for survival, hand to mouth existence and dead before 30, sounds awesome.
tigertim said:Geelong mayor Darren Lyons wants anyone booing Adam to be evicted from the ground and banned.
Giardiasis said:Yeah daily struggle for survival, hand to mouth existence and dead before 30, sounds awesome.
ninjahaha said:For me the issue was never about race. Its about football. Your deeds on the field and the color of your jumper is all that matters. Thats all changed now. You can no longer judge a player like any other player if is he is indigenous.