Prime Minister Poll

[Rosy]

I'm not sure why you quoted my post. Bishop's back pedalling has nothing to do with what I said.

It has to my way of thinking. Gillard's claims were largely supported by quotes and documented evidence. Bishop's claims weren't substantiated, in fact were apparently false, and she's seemingly withdrawn them. (Haven't read the details..that's based on the ABC news report)

 

[jb03]

mostly agree. If she, or anyone in parliament, committed a serious crimes, or acted in a way that was very unethical, then to me it would be worth investigating. all this is is an exercise in throwing mud in the hope it sticks. similar to the abbott wall punching affair.

Even if she was guilty of all the Libs are claiming it is hardly serious (IMO anyway).

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Even if she was guilty of all the Libs are claiming it is hardly serious (IMO anyway).

Even if I wasn't a pinko, leftist, socialist, pacifist atheist I'd still be wondering why the opposition has driven their party at full speed down a blind alley. It certainlky looks like they don't have anything to say about the issues of the day nor anything to contribute to country's future. Surely if they did they'd be saying it?

 

[Brodders17]

Even if she was guilty of all the Libs are claiming it is hardly serious (IMO anyway).

I cant comment on that because i havent been able to work out exactly what the Libs have been accusing her of.

 

[AngryAnt]

She's been accused of being a lawyer, essentially.

People see lawyers to make sure funds are set up in a legal way, even if the funds are used in an improper way it doesn't mean the lawyer has done the wrong thing and is legally culpable.

It's also been suggested she should have dobbed clients in if/when she was aware they were participating in illegal activities - in fact this would be an action that would be a violation of lawyer/client privilege and would result in a lawyer being disbarred in most jurisdictions.

In other words, it's a beat up.

 

[jb03]

She's been accused of being a lawyer, essentially.

I take it back then.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

I can't even see why it even matters - it was ages ago. Who cares what she did and didn't do 17 odd years ago .

Gillard claims nobody is interested in something that happened nearly 20 years ago, but is happy to attack Abbott over events nearly 40 years distant. And as for calling someone else a liar... The personality game's a tough one if your own backyard's not squeaky clean.

 

[AngryAnt]

I take it back then.

:hihi

 

[jb03]

Gillard claims nobody is interested in something that happened nearly 20 years ago, but is happy to attack Abbott over events nearly 40 years distant. And as for calling someone else a liar... The personality game's a tough one if your own backyard's not squeaky clean.

Yeah i reckon the Abott actions of the 1970's are even more irrelevant. Bit stunned that it is even an issue.

 

[Liverpool]

Yeah i reckon the Abott actions of the 1970's are even more irrelevant. Bit stunned that it is even an issue.

It was only an issue because it was Abbott.

If it was Gillard and this was reported in the media, then we would have firstly no posts from certain posters and then the cries of "its all unsubstatiated...its one word against the other", etc, etc.
Usually from the same posters who claim they don't take sides and look at politics with a balanced approach :rofl

 

[Willo]

It was only an issue because it was Abbott.

If it was Gillard and this was reported in the media, then we would have firstly no posts from certain posters and then the cries of "its all unsubstatiated...its one word against the other", etc, etc.
Usually from the same posters who claim they don't take sides and look at politics with a balanced approach :rofl

Exactly

 

[Tigers of Old]

Yeah i reckon the Abott actions of the 1970's are even more irrelevant. Bit stunned that it is even an issue.

Agree. I am a bit sick of this retro muck slinging.

WTF isn't anyone detailing policy?

 

[Rosy]

WTF isn't anyone detailing policy?

On policy I'm rapt the Murray Darling Food Bowl project has finally been given the green light. Interesting how the Libs and Greens agreed to it but are still on the hustings telling people how bad it will be. Seems a bit contradictory. Fingers crossed it will be a massive success.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Agree. I am a bit sick of this retro muck slinging.

WTF isn't anyone detailing policy?

If the opposition had anything to contribute on policy they'd be talking about it on the last sitting week of the year surely? And then we could all discuss the merits or lack there of of their policies. Until such time it is pretty difficult. If I were on the right I'd be pretty frustrated with the direction of the federal party. The play book still seems to be that Gillard is illegitimate and we should have an election. That was a lost cause a year ago. Presenting a credible alternative has to be the mantra doesn't it? Or are my pants of lefty socialism preventing me from seeing that they already are a credible alternative?

 

[Brodders17]

If the opposition had anything to contribute on policy they'd be talking about it on the last sitting week of the year surely? And then we could all discuss the merits or lack there of of their policies. Until such time it is pretty difficult. If I were on the right I'd be pretty frustrated with the direction of the federal party. The play book still seems to be that Gillard is illegitimate and we should have an election. That was a lost cause a year ago. Presenting a credible alternative has to be the mantra doesn't it? Or are my pants of lefty socialism preventing me from seeing that they already are a credible alternative?

in fairness it seems they have realised this a little, hence abbott staying quiet in parliament this week and releasing some of his ideas.

 

[Jason King]

Gillard claims nobody is interested in something that happened nearly 20 years ago, but is happy to attack Abbott over events nearly 40 years distant. And as for calling someone else a liar... The personality game's a tough one if your own backyard's not squeaky clean.

One is a man and the other is a woman.

 

[Rosy]

in fairness it seems they have realised this a little, hence abbott staying quiet in parliament this week and releasing some of his ideas.

Bishop seems to be making plenty of noise on his behalf though. Unfortunately, even if it's only a perception, the last week of parliament seems to have been taken up by accusations and back peddling in regard to union business from before the Ark was floated. What are the ideas Tony released? The only thing I'm aware of is the support of the Murray Darling plan.

 

[Liverpool]

in fairness it seems they have realised this a little, hence abbott staying quiet in parliament this week and releasing some of his ideas.

What do you think of his ideas?

I quite liked the "working for their payments" regarding asylum-seekers released into the community.



In fact, I'd go one further and add that people on long-term unemployment should be able to be relocated to where there is work required.

Maybe if someone who has been on the dole for 6 years because they keep putting their job down as 'lion tamer' and are deemed medically fit to work, can be moved to an area of the country that requires manual labour (fruit picking, etc).
If they don't want to be moved then maybe get serious about getting a job closer to home....it doesn't have to be your dream job but any job is surely better than no job.
Just my thoughts.

 

[Rosy]

What do you think of his ideas?

I quite liked the "working for their payments" regarding asylum-seekers released into the community.

That's interesting from someone with a policy of turning the boats back. Did he elaborate on how it would work and any restrictions/requirements on those participating?

 

[tigergollywog]

Just my thoughts.

phew