Poll on Hardwick as our coach

[Aegean Tiger]

Agree on Morris.

Yep apologies 4 games….probably due to Friday being so utterly forgetful. How long did it take Bomber to win a flag at the cats……8yrs?

 

[tigers80]

He will see out his contract, the days of the this crap is long gone

 

[Pandaboy]

Lets see our form this year.

Round 1: average win over a sh1t side
Round 2: lose comprehensively to an average side
Round 3: win convincingly over a bottom 2 side
Round 4: lose convincingly to a bottom 2 side

We were given a dream draw to go 4-0 against teams we should be beating. We do that and our membership is pushing 70k+. Our list is no worse than the sides we have played the first 4 rounds so I cant put it down to anything except our gameplan.

I cant see any other scenario than us being 2-8 after 10 rounds.

It will be a miracle if Hardwick survives til then.

 

[23.21.159]

Agree ... And a disappointment.

 

[Chimptastic]

Silly poll timing = inaccurate results.

It's 1 day after the most emotionally-charged loss in a long time. Do this poll 3 days earlier and the results are reversed.

 

[toby64]

His days are numbered.

Can see it coming to a head in about 6 weeks when we are 2-8.

 

[btoz_01]

Agree on Morris.

Yep apologies 4 games….probably due to Friday being so utterly forgetful. How long did it take Bomber to win a flag at the cats……8yrs?

Comparing Dimmer to Bomber :rofl :rofl :rofl
Why don't you call Brendan and ask him to extend Dimmers contract for another 3 years as Dimmer needs more time
Crowds were declining last year till we went on a 9 game streak and gave some hope for 2015
After 4 rounds can see crowds dropping off and it will be tough to sell memberships for 2016 with Dimmer in charge

 

[CarnTheTiges]

Bloody over reaction. For supporters to be talking about the coach after 3 games is very Richmond. Club must stay calm and resolute. Key issue that needs addressing (the flaw) is our efficiency within F50. We really need to change the mix in there considerably. Loyd and Gordon have not worked. Where do we get 2 small-medium forwards that can apply both defensive and offensive pressure and DO NOT FUMBLE!

Carlton were doing it with Malthouse after 2 games, and he hasn't been given as long as Damien, he doesn't have the same cattle, and he's got 3 Premierships to his name.

 

[Broders]

Of real concern is that after the losses to the Bulldogs and Melbourne the message from the RFC is that they are surprised and expected to win those games.

Is that the problem? Have we spent too much time drinking our own bathwater that we believe we are a powerhouse that only needs to turn up to secure the win.

After the start to last season i would have thought the message that we aren't that good might have sunk in, but it appears not.

Dimma should be afraid, very afraid. Terry Wallace can tell him that losing to Melbourne is a CLM (career limiting move) of the highest order for a Richmond coach

 

[Puntrd64]

Of real concern is that after the losses to the Bulldogs and Melbourne the message from the RFC is that they are surprised and expected to win those games.

Is that the problem? Have we spent too much time drinking our own bathwater that we believe we are a powerhouse that only needs to turn up to secure the win.

After the start to last season i would have thought the message that we aren't that good might have sunk in, but it appears not.

Dimma should be afraid, very afraid. Terry Wallace can tell him that losing to Melbourne is a CLM (career limiting move) of the highest order for a Richmond coach

Hardwick thinks he's the US$ when in fact he's the Mexican peso. :-[

 

[Rosy]

Silly poll timing = inaccurate results.

It's 1 day after the most emotionally-charged loss in a long time. Do this poll 3 days earlier and the results are reversed.

Geez that's deep and serious Chimp. :hihi

Surely nobody takes the PRE poll results too seriously. As for inaccurate results only time will tell if DH will lead us to a premiership. I suspect the poll results could well prove to be very accurate. I hope not.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Lets see our form this year.


Round 2: lose comprehensively to an average side

Round 4: lose convincingly to a bottom 2 side

Round 2 loss to the Bulldogs who just smashed Aderlayde who many were ramping as a finals side this year.

Round 4 loss to the Dees who also ran the arse out of Aderlayde not long ago.

The reigning premiers Dawkthorn were looking invincible a couple of weeks ago n Pordadalayde were a gibbering mess, guess what happened?

Yep we've played crap footy n fudged a couple of wins when everyone expected us to simply waltz up n start four zip.
Guess what that probably means? It means the AFL might finally be getting their socialist mantra right of having every club competitive every week n a genuine finals prospect for most clubs most years. We'll exclude Mould Coast n Brisvegas for the moment, Brisvegas got reamed by the Voss years n everyone on the Mould Coast are still trying to figure out what the hell they are doing in any sort of professional sport.

 

[TheUmpire]

Round 2 loss to the Bulldogs who just smashed Aderlayde who many were ramping as a finals side this year.

Round 4 loss to the Dees who also ran the arse out of Aderlayde not long ago.

The reigning premiers Dawkthorn were looking invincible a couple of weeks ago n Pordadalayde were a gibbering mess, guess what happened?

Yes, but we are the poster boy of playing yesterday's football and Dimma neither sees that nor understands that.

The man is a great bloke but is way out of his depth.

I hope the club has a plan for his exit.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Yes, but we are the poster boy of playing yesterday's football and Dimma neither sees that nor understands that.

The man is a great bloke but is way out of his depth.

I hope the club has a plan for his exit.

Might seem strange but in all four games but more so in our two losses the decision making n skill execution by the players has been *smile* ordinary to say the least.
Is that the coaches fault or the players fault?

 

[TheUmpire]

Might seem strange but in all four games but more so in our two losses the decision making n skill execution by the players has been *smile*ing ordinary to say the least.
Is that the coaches fault or the players fault?

Well it's either the players fault and then they should be dropped or it's the coach's fault for the game plan.

All available evidence says it the coach to blame.

 

[Carter]

Might seem strange but in all four games but more so in our two losses the decision making n skill execution by the players has been *smile*ing ordinary to say the least.
Is that the coaches fault or the players fault?

Nope.

Dominating posessions and inside 50s tells the story.

Skill execution?

Hard to kick goals from the boundary line.

Both teams struggled with the wet ball. They had space in their forward line. We didn't. And dimma talks about competing :hihi

The fundamental structure is all wrong. Has been obvious for two years now.

 

[DragicevicFan]

Can one of our resident stats gurus provide his winning percentages against the other coaches?

I'd say his figures against the more 'tactical' coaches would be very poor

 

[toby64]

Nope.

Dominating posessions and inside 50s tells the story.

Skill execution?

Hard to kick goals from the boundary line.

Both teams struggled with the wet ball. They had space in their forward line. We didn't. And dimma talks about competing :hihi

The fundamental structure is all wrong. Has been obvious for two years now.

So Griffiths' two missed set shots, Jack's set shot, Chimps set shot, all from the boundary? Not to mention the litinary of other stuff ups inside forward 50.

However *smile* his gameplan is, it created plenty of gettable opportunities that weren't taken on Friday night. For all his faults, it wasn't Hardwick who lost us the game on Friday, it was the players who cost us a win on the weekend.

They weren't good enough.

 

[Bullarto Tiger]

A mediocre playing list and a mediocre coaching group are a recipe for mediocrity.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Can one of our resident stats gurus provide his winning percentages against the other coaches?

I'd say his figures against the more 'tactical' coaches would be very poor

Coach M W L D W%
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Voss, Michael 5 5 0 0 100
Leppitsch, Justin 3 3 0 0 100
Neeld, Mark 3 3 0 0 100
Watters, Scott 3 3 0 0 100
Cameron, Leon 2 2 0 0 100
Richardson, Alan R. 2 2 0 0 100
Sheedy, Kevin 2 2 0 0 100
Bickley, Mark 1 1 0 0 100
Goodwin, Simon 1 1 0 0 100
Simpson, Adam 1 1 0 0 100
Viney, Todd 1 1 0 0 100
Williams, Mark M. 1 1 0 0 100
McCartney, Brendan 4 3 1 0 75
Harvey, Mark 3 2 1 0 67
Hinkley, Ken 3 2 1 0 67
Sanderson, Brenton 3 2 1 0 67
Longmire, John 6 3 3 0 50
Worsfold, John 4 2 2 0 50
Craig, Neil 2 1 1 0 50
Hocking, Garry 1 0 0 1 50
Malthouse, Mick 7 3 4 0 43
Clarkson, Alastair 5 2 3 0 40
Hird, James 5 2 3 0 40
Primus, Matthew 3 1 2 0 33
Thompson, Mark 3 1 2 0 33
McKenna, Guy 4 1 3 0 25
Roos, Paul 4 1 3 0 25
Lyon, Ross 8 1 6 1 19
Scott, Brad 6 1 5 0 17
Beveridge, Luke 1 0 1 0 0
Knights, Matthew 1 0 1 0 0
Eade, Rodney 2 0 2 0 0
Bailey, Dean 3 0 3 0 0
Buckley, Nathan 3 0 3 0 0
Scott, Chris 4 0 4 0 0
Ratten, Brett 6 0 6 0 0

Not really any consistency to it, figures are probably more closely related to the relative strength of the opposition.

When Richmond's older than the opposition he's going at 83%; when younger, 34%.

It's only cause for condemnation if we're losing to inferior sides, and I don't think that was the case on Friday. In any case the difference wasn't clear-cut. People need to get past "We lost to Melbourne!" and realise Friday night's team was pretty weak.