Political correctness & other nonsensical rubbish

[Tigers of Old]

Pretty funny on the face of it but you'd think the AFL would have done their research if they were going to spend the dollars in making such a DVD.

Many of these kids are swept up at 17 and in their sheltered environment remain that age for a lot longer than that...Wayne Carey anyone?

I can't see the harm in at least attempting to educate footballers to these issues.

 

[ssstone]

Sad to say guys.....but most of the examples they used have had close similarities to real life events involving AFL and NRL players.

As Eddie said on radio this week, for this stuff we need to stop thinking "what does the average guy believe" but almost "what does the lowest common denominator believe". Remember AFL attracts all sorts, look at two of the all time greats who have been getting court time recently.

the problem is in every aspect of life is dumbed down to protect the "lowest common denominator" for farks sake i long for the day when common sense prevails? wont be holding my breath tho.

 

[Tiger74]

the problem is in every aspect of life is dumbed down to protect the "lowest common denominator" for farks sake i long for the day when common sense prevails? wont be holding my breath tho.

If you're taking the lowest common denominators into your club, you gotta have a message they can understand. AFL has its fair share of knuckledraggers, so the message is appropriate.

 

[Liverpool]

If you're taking the lowest common denominators into your club, you gotta have a message they can understand. AFL has its fair share of knuckledraggers, so the message is appropriate.

Where does is stop though Tiger74...what next?
Showing one of those 1980s sex-ed videos with the cartoon bunny rabbits going at it and explaining the birds and the bees? :hihi

The AFL are using excuses such as "education" to try and diminish the fact that players are using their status as an AFL player to commit indecent acts, knowing full well they are committing such an act....and instead of naming and shaming, they are trying to protect the players with all the political correct hocus pocus called "education".... :

The drug policy a perfect example of the AFL burying their heads in the sand and protecting people in the game who are taking drugs using the "counselling", "education", and "anonymity" as excuses to protect the player and hence protect the game from bad publicity, protecting sponsors, and ultimately, the $$$ that go along with it.
The "sex-ed/morals" DVD another in the list of head-burying.

 

[Tiger74]

Where does is stop though Tiger74...what next?
Showing one of those 1980s sex-ed videos with the cartoon bunny rabbits going at it and explaining the birds and the bees? :hihi

The AFL are using excuses such as "education" to try and diminish the fact that players are using their status as an AFL player to commit indecent acts, knowing full well they are committing such an act....and instead of naming and shaming, they are trying to protect the players with all the political correct hocus pocus called "education".... :

The drug policy a perfect example of the AFL burying their heads in the sand and protecting people in the game who are taking drugs using the "counselling", "education", and "anonymity" as excuses to protect the player and hence protect the game from bad publicity, protecting sponsors, and ultimately, the $$$ that go along with it.
The "sex-ed/morals" DVD another in the list of head-burying.

Players are being named and shamed, just that the cops didn't have enough evidence to charge (3 cases to date to my knowledge).

Agree on the drugs, and the current policy is only around to hold off free agency (which is not a decent reason either).

 

[Liverpool]

Criminals must laugh when they have an old fart chase them down the road run out of puff...and a sheila who if he said 'boo' to would cry and run the other way.... :-[
No wonder people (especially the younger generation) have no respect for the law anymore and treat it with contempt.


Cop size doesn't matter - Nixon
March 12, 2008 01:25pm
POLICE chief Christine Nixon has denied politically correct zealots are making a mockery of recruitment, insisting size and age does not matter.
Ms Nixon was responding to a Herald Sun report revealing fit young men are being denied entry to Victoria Police while the force recruits more women and people approaching retirement age.
Ms Nixon said past height and age barriers to entering the force were outdated and had unfairly blocked talented candidates.
She said police used their brains, capsicum spray and batons in brawls and other confrontations, not their size, age or gender.
"It's about the way you go about your work, the way you deal with people, the way you interact, your confidence in yourself,'' Ms Nixon said.
A 142cm woman, a 61-year-old man and two men in their late 50s are among the 157 recruits now in training.
The recruiting policy was yesterday described by one serving policeman as "political correctness gone mad".
The Opposition and the Police Association also challenged the policy.
Police command defended the system, saying the force could not legally refuse any applicant on the grounds of age, gender or height.
But some qualified male applicants have waited two years after sitting the police entrance exam and still don't know if they will be accepted.
One would-be recruit told the Herald Sun he had been told by police friends his position on the training academy's waiting list fluctuated each month "depending how many women have applied".
Russell Dickson, 24, is 188cm, has a university business degree, works out almost every day and passed the force's entrance exam in March 2006.
He has a female friend who is 157cm, struggled to complete year 10 and applied to join the force a year later.
She started training at the academy last month.
"I know she didn't do as well on some of the tests as I did, but none of that seems to matter," Mr Dickson said.
More women than men graduated from the police training academy for the first time in 2007. Police figures show that 33 per cent of last year's 1098 applicants were women.
Almost 52 per cent of the 316 recruits who graduated during the year were women.
The number of women in the 11,250-strong police force has jumped from 15 per cent to almost 23 per cent in the seven years since Christine Nixon became the first female chief commissioner.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,23359572-2862,00.html?from=public_rss

 

[Six Pack]

Policing isnt all about chasing crims down the road, Livers. I am sure people of all shapes and sizes, ages etc have a role to play in the modern police force.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Having more women in the police force is sound policy IMO.

You do it in pretty much any industry where there is a shortage of women in the numbers. Among the payoffs is that you raise the bar for recruiting generally.

In my experience the first thing you try to improve in your workforce is the overall level of capability. If you increase the sample you recruit from you necessarily improve the quality. Unless you can't recruit. But that's a different issue.

 

[mld]

We could pretty much replace Liverpool with a link to Andrew Bolt's blog.

 

[Liverpool]

Having more women in the police force is sound policy IMO.
You do it in pretty much any industry where there is a shortage of women in the numbers. Among the payoffs is that you raise the bar for recruiting generally.
In my experience the first thing you try to improve in your workforce is the overall level of capability. If you increase the sample you recruit from you necessarily improve the quality. Unless you can't recruit. But that's a different issue.

The way I look at it Dyer'ere, is that you choose the BEST person for the job regardless of race, religion, or gender.
Choosing women over men to meet a quota....or choosing older candidates to meet some other quota....and ignoring candidates that are better for the position but don't meet the criteria the police/government are trying to reach is setting the police force up as an area of medicority.
The embarassment being that this medicority is what the taxpayers pay for to protect and serve the community and shouldn't be a tool used to promote political correctness and minority group agendas.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Well I'm not convinced that this is a case of reverse discrimination, Liverpool.

It just seems commonsense to me to lower the size requirements to get more women in the force.

If I were to name three areas I'd like to see improved in the police force physical strength wouldn't be one of them. Smarter would be good. More in number, yeah, good too. And less corruption would be good.

Women can help in those areas.

This Nixon sheila is getting flak. And not just a little of it is due to the fact that a bunch of seriously crooked cops are getting the arse.

Are the leaders of the police force dweebs? Yep. Particularly compared to the cool crooks they've been weeding out of the force.

Be suspicious of the anti-Nixon campaign. She's the one that's not a crook.

 

[Six Pack]

Livers, stop being so backward looking in yr opinions. Policing requires more than brawn.

 

[Liverpool]

Well I'm not convinced that this is a case of reverse discrimination, Liverpool.
It just seems commonsense to me to lower the size requirements to get more women in the force.

Livers, stop being so backward looking in yr opinions. Policing requires more than brawn.

Dyer'ere,
No, to me it is commonsense to hire people that are BEST for the job....not hiring women for the sake of bumping up their numbers in the ranks...or hiring people over-50 to broaden the demographic agenda.
I do not want OUR police-force being used as some tool to suit a political correct agenda.
Hire people on merits, not agendas or because some people want to feel good about themselves by hiring more [insert group that isn't a white male aged 18-35 here].

SixPack,
I wonder if you would have the same opinion if you called the cops during a home-burglary and a 55-year old woman turned up... :hihi
Anyways, like I said to Dyer'ere......who said anything about brawn? ???
All I ask is that the police-force not to be used as a tool to appease people out there with an agenda...it should be used to hire the BEST PEOPLE for the job, not throwing away good candidates because they do not fit the 'popular agenda for the day' political correct goons.
And nobody can tell me that a 61 year old male....and a 5-foot nothing female...are the best candidates out there to protect and serve the community.

 

[Six Pack]

so as well as all yr other 'isms' it appears we can safely add 'sexism.'

 

[Six Pack]

Livers, the modern police force is much more than chasing a few crims down the street and giving them a bit of a pasting when caught. Surely you realise that the recruits have all sorts of jobs to do and that the coppers are selected for these jobs according to their abilities?

 

[Rosy]

...and a sheila who if he said 'boo' to would cry and run the other way.... :-[

Don't forget a liberal splash a dash of misogynism too 6y.

 

[Six Pack]

Don't forget a liberal splash a dash of misogynism too 6y.

more like a wave than a splash!

 

[Liverpool]

so as well as all yr other 'isms' it appears we can safely add 'sexism.'

Did I say BAN women from the police force?
No I didn't.

All I am asking for is that the police (and all organisations) choose the best person for the role.
That isn't sexism at all.

Hiring women to appease an agenda is simply wrong....and to be honest, a blight on women...as it more or less says that women aren't good enough to get in by their own volition and need a helping hand to get anywhere in society.
Do you think women are that poor that they need an agenda to get anywhere Sixpack?
If so...then maybe you need to shove the "sexism" hat on yourself before casting dispersions.

 

[Six Pack]

You're ignoring my point about the multi-tasking roles in today's police force, Livers.

 

[Liverpool]

You're ignoring my point about the multi-tasking roles in today's police force, Livers.

We're not talking about roles...and neither was Nixon when she said this:

She said police used their brains, capsicum spray and batons in brawls and other confrontations, not their size, age or gender.
"It's about the way you go about your work, the way you deal with people, the way you interact, your confidence in yourself,'' Ms Nixon said.

If you were a criminal...would you be frightened of being arrested by a 5-foot nothing female with a baton? or a 6-foot+ male with a bit of muscle wielding a baton?

Like I stated...hiring women to appease an agenda is simply wrong....and to be honest, a blight on women...as it more or less says that women aren't good enough to get in by their own volition and need a helping hand to get anywhere in society.
Do you think women are that poor that they need an agenda to get anywhere Sixpack?
If so...then maybe you need to shove the "sexism" hat on yourself before casting dispersions