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Political correctness & other nonsensical rubbish

Six Pack said:
Non - Christians sticking a plastic pine tree in their loungeroom is pretty dumb too, SS Tone.

I think you are probably aware that I have no interests in the faith-based aspects of Christmas, however I love this time of year for the tradition and quality time with family. So to say that putting up a Christmas tree is 'dumb' negates the importance of this tradition for many in our culture....just as 'dumb' as traditions in any culture really (which you are quick to defend on other threads....and rightly so). Remember that the tree is not a Christian symbol anyway, nor is the 25th of December significant in Christianity, both were hijacked. So you could say that it is 'dumb' that Christians put up a tree. ;)

I spent Saturday evening attending Carols by the Beach....not because of any love of the message of some of the songs....but because of the tradition and community of the event. It may be hard to imagine, but non-Christians also enjoy these values ;).
 
I don't know if this belongs in the PC thread or not. I took 2 of my young cousins out on saturday. I remembered years ago, my parents took me to see the myer christmas window display. I thought I'd go and take them to have a look. What a dissapointment. Nothing at all remotely connected to a christmas theme. I know it's been a long time since I was a kid, but I had absolutely no idea what the display was about. Something to do with a 'secret garden' ? :headscratch
Can someone enlighten me about this? How long has the display been 'non- christmassy'? Why has it become like that? Is it to not 'offend' non-christians? No santa, no nativity scene, no christmas tree. It wasn't just me. The kids, who are 10 and 7, were dissapointed as well.
 
The Myer windows have been ordinary for sometime. Seems to be a clash of product placement v new age green garbage.
 
A soltice tree eh.I like that.

Our tree was the festivus tree but now it's going to be the solstice tree.

Go the pagans.
 
It's funny we southern hemisphere'ers should be mourning the death of the sun this time of year, not celebrating his birth. Any excuse for a party.
 
Disco08 said:
It's funny we southern hemisphere'ers should be mourning the death of the sun this time of year, not celebrating his birth. Any excuse for a party.
Checkout what were really celebrating.Funny stuff.

Conflict between Horus and Set
By the Nineteenth dynasty, the previous brief enmity between Set and Horus, in which Horus had ripped off one of Set's testicles, was revitalised as a separate tale. According to Papyrus Chester-Beatty I, Set was considered to have been homosexual and is depicted as trying to prove his dominance by seducing Horus and then having intercourse with him. However, Horus places his hand between his thighs and catches Set's semen, then subsequently throws it in the river, so that he may not be said to have been inseminated by Set. Horus then deliberately spreads his own semen on some lettuce, which was Set's favorite food (the Egyptians thought that lettuce was phallic). After Set has eaten the lettuce, they go to the deities to try to settle the argument over the rule of Egypt. The deities first listen to Set's claim of dominance over Horus, and call his semen forth, but it answers from the river, invalidating his claim. Then, the deities listen to Horus' claim of having dominated Set, and call his semen forth, and it answers from inside Set.[6] In consequence, Horus is declared the ruler of Egypt.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus
 
Panthera tigris FC said:
I spent Saturday evening attending Carols by the Beach....not because of any love of the message of some of the songs....but because of the tradition and community of the event. It may be hard to imagine, but non-Christians also enjoy these values ;).

Zactly, Panthera!

I’m as strictly fins and gills crawling out of the primeval mud as anyone can be brought up in a catholic family in a predominately Christian country and my wife is a Buddhist; none the less under our sparking chrissy tree on Christmas eve my son will put out some milk and cookies for santa and some veggies for his reindeers and on Christmas day we’ll celebrate the birth of Christ (from what I can gather he was a highly evolved human being).

For us, god the creator has got nothing to do with it – for us it’s about celebrating a tradition in respect of a very special person and it just happens to be great fun – the tree, the pressies, family & friends, shoveling down bucket loads of food, etc

Talk of political correctness in relation to Christmas strikes me as really really dull and unimaginative more than anything else.

We all gorge down foods foreign to us by the banquet loads, travel abroad to experience foreign cultures and people, and yet for some when it comes to celebrating foreign religious traditions they're so hung up it’s like they haven’t had sex for 25 years. If the answer isn't more sex and understanding, I'll never work it out.
 
Legends of 1980 said:
I don't know if this belongs in the PC thread or not. I took 2 of my young cousins out on saturday. I remembered years ago, my parents took me to see the myer christmas window display. I thought I'd go and take them to have a look. What a dissapointment. Nothing at all remotely connected to a christmas theme. I know it's been a long time since I was a kid, but I had absolutely no idea what the display was about. Something to do with a 'secret garden' ? :headscratch
Can someone enlighten me about this? How long has the display been 'non- christmassy'? Why has it become like that? Is it to not 'offend' non-christians? No santa, no nativity scene, no christmas tree. It wasn't just me. The kids, who are 10 and 7, were dissapointed as well.

I think the main issue there is wanting to keep it "fresh".

There are only so many times you can do the old classics before it gets repetitive (we are talking marketers and design people remember :D), and a part of the problem with the success of the Myer windows is every year people come wanting to see something new and different from previous years.

I do think they can cycle back to the old stories after a few years, but I do see the problem they face.
 
evo said:
Being caught at a Missy Higgins concert should be grounds for arrest for crimes against good taste.

So the transgressor may as well bring a blanky and salad roll for the long stay overnight.

here here
 
Again, more political correct idiots who take things too far to protect a 'minority group' when the minority group themselves are the ones not complaining to begin with :mad::
(Also....kicking people out for skolling a beer? kicking people out for starting a Mexican Wave? Political correctness trying to turn everybody into a bunch of robots)



Clamp on fans a sign of the times
December 27, 2007 12:00am

CRICKET fans have lashed out at the MCG "fun police" after more than 100 were evicted for misdemeanours as minor as drinking a beer.
Australian and Indian fans in yesterday's 68,465 crowd said Cricket Australia and the Melbourne Cricket Club were ruining the traditional Boxing Day Test with their zero-tolerance approach to crowd behaviour.
Police had evicted 110 fans by stumps at 6pm. Nine people were arrested for being drunk and two men for streaking.
Another male is likely to be charged after being arrested for assaulting a police officer.

Two men dressed as Indians became the first victims of a new anti-racism campaign yesterday morning when their sign -- which said "Supporting India from every corner of the globe", accompanied by a 7-Eleven logo -- was confiscated by police.
New Zealanders Tim McSweeney, 20, and Tom Watson, 19, said the sign was a tongue-in-cheek gibe. And Indian fans nearby said police had taken things too far.
"The cops told us it was racist, but it was just a bit of a joke," Mr McSweeney said.
Indian fan Mo Mahadan, 26, agreed. "The sign was fine -- it was fun."


Police zeroed in early on fans in Bay 13 -- the long-standing home of the lout -- ejecting one for skolling a mid-strength beer, his first for the day, at 11.30am.
Others were thrown out before lunch for defying the ban on the mexican wave.
Danny Brewis and Kieran Smith, both 20, from Vermont South, were escorted outside for starting the cricket ritual, which circled the ground about five times.
"We come down here for a good Australian time, and the cops pull us up on it," Mr Brewis said. "We weren't even throwing anything."
Luke Hankin and Nick Perger, both 19, were ejected for standing on their seats and holding beers above their heads to celebrate Matthew Hayden's third consecutive Boxing Day Test century.
"I thought they were joking when they grabbed me," Mr Hankin said. "Security is ruining the cricket. You can't even throw a beach ball around any more, or they just grab it straight away and pop it."
But other fans in the thick of Bay 13 thought police and security officers did a fantastic job keeping fans in check.
"I don't think they have been heavy-handed at all. They have been very fair," Helen Wilson, 50, of Kew said.
"It is a great atmosphere, but some people have been doing some silly things and the police have a job to do."
The anti-racism crackdown did not result in any evictions.
Cricket Australia spokesman Peter Young said the Bay 13 problems were disappointing, but praised police.
"The feedback on overall crowd behaviour has been really good," Mr Young said.
"Most people are saying how it is now a lot more fun coming to the cricket than it was even just two years ago, when a lot of unacceptable behaviour was becoming systemic."
Supt Stephen Leane warned police would continue their zero-tolerance approach at the MCG over the next four days.
Former Australian cricketer and Victorian captain Simon O'Donnell said the festive Boxing Day atmosphere was not under threat from the police.
"In any sporting community, unfortunately, the rules are made for the minority, not the majority. The minority are fools that bring everyone else undone," O'Donnell said.
"But it looked to me that there was still a lot of fun out there in the crowd."
MCC events general manager Trevor Dohnt said he was relatively happy with the behaviour of yesterday's crowd.
"There was an element of our crowd we had behavioural problems with," Mr Dohnt said.
"But that was limited to a small section that caused 95 per cent of the problems."
Geelong Brownlow medallist Jimmy Bartel enjoyed the day in the MCC members' area.
Bartel, a talented all-rounder who represented Victoria in under 17s cricket, said the day brought back fond memories of picking up the bat.
"I do miss cricket, especially when you come to a day like this," he said.
Eddie McGuire, police Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon, marathon champ Steve Moneghetti and former treasurer Peter Costello also enjoyed the day.
St John Ambulance treated at least 45 fans, mostly for cuts and abrasions.
One man, who had not been drinking, was sent to hospital after he began feeling dizzy.


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22974505-661,00.html
 
Liverpool said:
(Also....kicking people out for skolling a beer? kicking people out for starting a Mexican Wave? Political correctness trying to turn everybody into a bunch of robots)

How is skolling a beer or the Mexican wave politically incorrect?
 
great thread this one.
it`s frightening what some of these nutters come up with.
i think the loonies coming up with this nonsense should be locked up in a mental home or slapped in the face a few hundred times with a wet fish.

this bloke sums it up pretty well.

"As is often the case, self-appointed arbiters of public tolerance have simply co-opted a non-existent cause to serve their own ends, damaging those they profess to protect in the process.
"What purports to inspire tolerance instead inspires hostility and intolerance," Waleed Aly, a member of the executive of the Islamic Council of Victoria, wrote in The Australian newspaper this week. Jesus is a revered prophet to Muslims. Driving an "anti-Christmas campaign" is not Islam but "aggressive atheism"



aggressive atheism,or aggressive nutbagism.
 
mopsy fraser said:
great thread this one.
it`s frightening what some of these nutters come up with.
i think the loonies coming up with this nonsense should be locked up in a mental home or slapped in the face a few hundred times with a wet fish.

this bloke sums it up pretty well.

"As is often the case, self-appointed arbiters of public tolerance have simply co-opted a non-existent cause to serve their own ends, damaging those they profess to protect in the process.
"What purports to inspire tolerance instead inspires hostility and intolerance," Waleed Aly, a member of the executive of the Islamic Council of Victoria, wrote in The Australian newspaper this week. Jesus is a revered prophet to Muslims. Driving an "anti-Christmas campaign" is not Islam but "aggressive atheism"



aggressive atheism,or aggressive nutbagism.
:rofl :rofl hows the kiwis that had their banner taken off them that read "supporting india from every corner of the globe"accompanied by a 7-11 logo..cause it was deemed racist by the cops? ::) nazism by another name thats all.
 
Disco08 said:
How is skolling a beer or the Mexican wave politically incorrect?

Cops answered this today. The guy in question was not kicked for throwing down a brew, but doing a but of the old push and shove with some people in the crowd.

As for the wave, people have been hit with bolts, billiard balls, pies (sounds funny but a person was burnt last year). and p1ss filled cups.

Cops have tried micro-policing the issue in the past, but kept losing people in the crowd as people hid them and they changed clothes.

Sorry to see the wave banned, but if people are getting broken bones and burns from a wave, its gone too far.
 
Tiger74 said:
Sorry to see the wave banned, but if people are getting broken bones and burns from a wave, its gone too far.

Agree, stupid drunken bogans ruined it for everyone.
 
One for you Livers ;D.

Madness.

Three Little Pigs 'too offensive'
By Sean Coughlan
BBC News, education

A story based on the Three Little Pigs has been turned down from a government agency's annual awards because the subject matter could offend Muslims.

The digital book, re-telling the classic fairy tale, was rejected by judges who warned that "the use of pigs raises cultural issues".

Becta, the government's educational technology agency, is a leading partner in the annual schools award.

The judges also attacked Three Little Cowboy Builders for offending builders.

The book's creative director, Anne Curtis, said that the idea that including pigs in a story could be interpreted as racism was "like a slap in the face".

'Cultural issues'

The CD-Rom digital version of the traditional story of the three little pigs, called Three Little Cowboy Builders, is aimed at primary school children.

But judges at this year's Bett Award said that they had "concerns about the Asian community and the use of pigs raises cultural issues".

The Three Little Cowboy Builders has already been a prize winner at the recent Education Resource Award - but its Newcastle-based publishers, Shoo-fly were turned down by the Bett Award panel, run the government's technology agency.

The feedback from the judges explaining why they had rejected the CD-Rom highlighted that they "could not recommend this product to the Muslim community".

They also warned that the story might "alienate parts of the workforce (building trade)".

The judges criticised the stereotyping in the story of the unfortunate pigs: "Is it true that all builders are cowboys, builders get their work blown down, and builders are like pigs?"

Animal Farm?

Ms Curtis said that rather than preventing the spread of racism, such an attitude was likely to inflame ill-feeling. As another example, she says would that mean that secondary schools could not teach Animal Farm because it features pigs?

Her company is committed to an ethical approach to business and its products promote a message of mutual respect, she says - and banning such traditional stories will "close minds rather than open them".

Becta, the government funded agency responsible for technology in schools and colleges, says that it is standing by the judges' verdict.

"Becta with its partners is responsible for the judging criteria against which the 70 independent judges, mostly practising teachers, comment. All the partners stick by the judging criteria," said a Becta spokesman.

The reason that this product was not shortlisted was because "it failed to reach the required standard across a number of criteria", said the spokesman.

Becta runs the awards with the Besa trade association and show organisers, Emap Education.

Merlin John, author of an educational technology website which highlighted the story, warns that such rulings can undermine the credibility of the awards.

"When benchmarks are undermined by pedestrian and pedantic tick lists, and by inflexible, unhelpful processes, it can tarnish the achievements of even the most worthy winners.

"It's time for a rethink, and for Becta to listen to the criticisms that have been ignored for a number of years," said Mr John.